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September 23, 2018, 09:07:32 PM
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The original bounty topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3637821.0

Manager bounty ( DentIt ): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369595

Other managers / accounts. They work together. I took information from their official telegram group ( https://t.me/BXUNTY ):

1. zoonosis: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=192234
2. brlian: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147504

I've discovered strange things, people / bots that didn't participate in the bounty at all - in the final spreadsheet received maximum stakes for Twitter / Facebook / Articles / Signature.

In Facebook, the maximum number of stakes per bounty is 165, these bots have 260+, so they attracted my attention.




Below is a forms with a list of participants in which there are no these bots ( they appear only in the final spreadsheet ):

1. Twitter: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CHPuMLTnoFeb7DwkA6BJQjq2YtCXgrL_cyUbiVVt-xE/edit#gid=2118266580

2. Facebook: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ZeUM8zqG3BjkIviTkFAM4_SpDZszOqT1I4ZtV2FFbY/edit#gid=1267122503

3. Signature: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O7Jipzv3lIIWayED4K5IH3Pz24i3nD467COiziKogDk/edit#gid=1697316978

4. Articles: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13TzIm83Zgwy8jhZXyu3h9j4dffXP8RY_dzj0Qhi7EVk/edit#gid=70746513

And here is the final spreadsheet drawn up by the Manager: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16W1XRXoHL0iFIyFIjs93ak2J9V9isTLiXo5swRqm-Mk/edit#gid=0

Below are the very bots I wrote about above, I'll give a few examples:


1. candyman22, MEW: 0x3C31914A711f284FD35DE07abE89B20BA75a4773 ( empty wallet, no single transaction )



This bot is not present in the registration forms presented above. But the maximum number of stakes and even more than the maximum possible (facebook)

2. cryptobountybro, MEW: 0xa3E0e6649E231aa321bAd09ba47CAdb825Fa20C5 ( the same empty wallet, 0 transactions )



3. cryptojesus1, MEW:0xAf4161c01F2d36e33aF10c3A1db5E0B2A1198689 ( empty.... )




These are some examples of such bots, but there are a lot of them ( I counted 35, and these are just the ones that are very suspicious...) . Every honest participant submitted their reports every week in the form, it can not be just a mistake...

At least I think so...

What do you think about it?

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September 23, 2018, 09:29:58 PM
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Perhaps the topic should have been created in the section about the reputation, I'll leave it to the discretion of the moderators.
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September 24, 2018, 12:45:28 AM
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Perhaps the topic should have been created in the section about the reputation, I'll leave it to the discretion of the moderators.
You're right, you're in the wrong forum, why don't you delete it and write it back in the forum. actually, the problem of bounty hunter bots that sprung up a lot happened and this is the majority of bounties that are managed by new managers.

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September 24, 2018, 10:55:55 AM
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Honestly it looks very bad, and you are not the first to notice from the inconsistency. Here the issue of reputation remains open. What did they answer in their thread on the forum and in the chat room? Or were you ignored and banned there from commenting?
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September 24, 2018, 11:52:11 AM
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I've taken a look at candyman22 post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1289445;sa=showPosts). It seems he's just a sockpuppet account created for this bounty. He got a nearly full stake for every campaign, certainly suspicious. He's not online after May 9th, but somehow he got a full stake for at least 10 weeks campaign (assuming it started from May 8th, it is impossible for him to get that stakes).

Have you tried to contact them to respond in this thread?
Find your post on their thread.




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September 24, 2018, 12:50:43 PM
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I asked a question in their telegram group, but they deleted it.

I also wrote to the project team DATABLOCKCHAIN.IO and they promised to consider my little investigation.

It seems that the moderators do not have time to keep track of such topics or they do not care?

I've taken a look at candyman22 post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1289445;sa=showPosts). It seems he's just a sockpuppet account created for this bounty. He got a nearly full stake for every campaign, certainly suspicious. He's not online after May 9th, but somehow he got a full stake for at least 10 weeks campaign (assuming it started from May 8th, it is impossible for him to get that stakes).

You can view the registration spreadsheets I gave above for each category (Twitter / FB / articles / signature ) these bots were not even registered in the bounty campaign... Accordingly, they cannot receive stakes at all...

Obviously, in such a case, the one who gave them the stakes is their owner and the scammer.
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September 24, 2018, 03:27:52 PM
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This is a very common occurrence in bounty campaigns. The bounty manager manipulates it using the "ghost" accounts and gives them the maximum stakes, earning a lot of money for him that is taken directly from the hunters.

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September 25, 2018, 01:50:34 AM
Last edit: September 25, 2018, 02:19:39 AM by DentIt
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Greetings!

This bounty has been closed for quite some time, but the spreadsheet is still not finalized and is still being edited to remove fraudulent entries (hence the V1 in the title). This DBC bounty campaign was hit by a ridiculous amount of bot fraud from the start and we worked diligently to remove several spam & scam entries. This was due to not enabling the option to submit Google forms only if logged into a Gmail account from the start. This resulted in several scam entries which caused a lot of havoc and confusion from the start. We have worked hundreds of hours to fix these errors, and are still working on finalizing the DataBlockChain Master Spreadsheet. (And all future bounties have this option to submit forms with Gmail account only enabled).

You can ask any of our loyal bounty hunters about the fact that we respond to every single message we receive as a policy. We have been open with every single bounty hunter asking questions and I am currently trying to figure out if anyone of the employees saw your messages you posted, since this is the first I am hearing of it. We are launching a little investigation to get to the root of these entries and if they were simply submitted through other means.

There are still several red entries on a lot of the spreadsheets posted because we are still working on having the final spreadsheet ready by the time distribution occurs. Unfortunately on Bitcointalk, bounties receive just as many fraudulent entries as real ones and sometimes the scam entries slip through the cracks and we reward tokens to participants who did not even complete the work. This happens by gaming the spreadsheet system and taking advantage of certain mechanics in the way we calculate stakes. Also the human error of having employees working for a salary, results in some entries which we only remove towards the end of finalizing the spreadsheet when we go through it a third and fourth time. We will have to ask every employee and individual who had access to the spreadsheet if they remember approving these submissions.

The master spreadsheet is still open and being edited constantly, since distribution of tokens is only taking place after the DBC token sale. If there are errors of MORE stakes than are even possible, we can assure you that is a simple error and will be fixed asap!

I can assure you that we are a professional bounty management team who works directly with the DataBlockChain team and no fraudulent manipulation occurs. We are paid DBC tokens directly from the team and would never attempt fraudulent entries. Additionally, for almost all bounties, KYC is required, which means these fraudulent entries would never result in tokens earned by the frauds unless they reveal themselves.

Also, Please be aware that several bounty hunters do not submit entries directly through the spreadsheets, but make posts in the thread or send direct messages on Bitcointalk or on Telegram to our management accounts. This is usually due to a language barrier and not understanding the posted rules, resulting in confusion. We handle all of these entries directly.

We are currently investigating these entries, and will work to provide more details ASAP regarding these submissions.

If you can direct message us, we would love to help resolve this issue directly with you.
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January 15, 2019, 01:24:03 PM
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I think the project itself is primarily a scam - don't you think so? There are no developers. The team lists people who are not affiliated with the project. Now there is a requirement to go through "know your client" with definitely impossible conditions. I did not dig even deeper.
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January 15, 2019, 06:12:31 PM
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Did this ever get resolved?

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