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September 27, 2018, 08:49:56 AM
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if you study economy, you will understand that the market always finds a way to regulate itself.

But not always for the general good - look at banking for example. If banking hadn't been self-regulating, then Bitcoin would never have been created.

I was refering at a free market, given the context of the discussion.
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September 27, 2018, 04:50:12 PM
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I personally close all of my bounty threads after a couple weeks following completion, there is no reason to keep the bounty thread open, but I suspect that many users on here are not actually aware that you can close your own threads. To be honest, it took me longer than it probably should have to realize we could lock/unlock our own threads.

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September 27, 2018, 09:24:00 PM
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I have noticed this and was always wondering if this just bots!! or there are people behind this accounts!! Trust me it is hard to believe that there are real people that dumb behind this accounts, I am a member of many bounty channels and I saw how much managers keep warning that making more than one post to report the work will result in a disqualification from the bounty, I know that's this is not enough but that is not my point here, my point is they will not get paid! So if you are a real person how you can miss this? So are they bots? Is there even a possibility that there is a bot exist that can do all this work? From the tweet, share, like, and so on...!

All bounty have a bounty group in Telegram, so I think all bounty thread should be locked after ended and if anyone has a problem he/she can connect with the manager in the Telegram channel. Maybe this is a rule that needs to be forced on all the campaigns. But that will not solve the report quotes spamming.
Why are you surprised? Many people create such long "footcloths" From several months of their work. So they save all their links in one place.
In some rules participation in bounty write a managers. "Quote your first posts." That's what they're doing! And there is a group of people who do not understand what a forum is. This is their first experience. They saw on YouTube video, that you can coins to earn, so they are trying to earn them. They don't even realize that there are other sections of the forum that discuss more important topics. Than the typical brad "I panic, me sell coin or not" "Yes sell and run from this forum" Honestly boiled already...
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September 27, 2018, 10:19:02 PM
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The one I really hate in campaign threads is the social media reports. It makes me sick seeing those post that contains the link of their status/tweets about the current campaign. I once checked a random profile and it has a huge number of activities then after that It's just a full of shitposting and social media reports.  Undecided

I personally close all of my bounty threads after a couple weeks following completion, there is no reason to keep the bounty thread open, but I suspect that many users on here are not actually aware that you can close your own threads. To be honest, it took me longer than it probably should have to realize we could lock/unlock our own threads.

Or maybe they can create a self-moderated thread to delete those shitposters. They should have delete or report those people that'll try to spam the thread. Our admin should add requirements or rules before having a Bounty/ANN thread so he/she can be responsible and will not tolerate shitposting in the threads.

I know some poeple who locks thread after the campaign ends because they knew that it'll become a place where shitposters at.

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September 28, 2018, 01:08:19 AM
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Maybe it's better if it's required that after a week or maybe month the bounty end, the Bounty thread should be closed and any updates, issues etc will be discussed in telegram. I remember, BM of Inmusik do this to the  bounty thread . He closed the thread and no one can edit or add anything on the thread and all issues, question and updates happening to telegram.

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September 28, 2018, 10:23:47 AM
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Here is a nice one from the PR Manager of Syscoin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1466445.msg45655560#msg45655560

Instead of reporting the spam message (which I did in his place... Roll Eyes), he thanks the guy for his support. Grin

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October 04, 2018, 05:26:49 PM
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My gentle suggestions:
1. Keep your threads self-moderated.

I am absolutely disagree. If threads will be self-moderated, it will be very difficult to discuss the project and expose scam. I've seen how deleted posts that had criticized the project. People might find out negative information too late.

The best decision is using google forms, but they must be open to keep track reports.
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October 04, 2018, 06:08:56 PM
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Here is a nice one from the PR Manager of Syscoin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1466445.msg45655560#msg45655560

Instead of reporting the spam message (which I did in his place... Roll Eyes), he thanks the guy for his support. Grin

Obviously this is a smart way to bump the threads, I think other managers have been suspended for x days thanks to this maneuver.

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October 04, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
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The problem is that even when you report a spambie membre, BMs ignore you  Angry

What I noticed is that they don't really care about the forum and the project, all they want is to get paid for editing a spreadsheet.
That doesn't mean all bounty managers are guilty  Wink
I worked with the best and there is no need to mention his name here.

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October 04, 2018, 07:39:44 PM
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Bounty managers are not forum moderators, why would they be responsible for cleaning up spam? Are we going to start getting paid for this? If so, please tell me where to apply.

The bounty section is entirely full of bounty reports and bounty related posts, you don't go there looking for content obviously. There is no reason to clean up the section at all since that is its exact purpose.

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October 04, 2018, 08:07:49 PM
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You've seen these things before, surely:

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WEEK # 17 (21/09 - 27/09)
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
Liked and Shared Posts:
1. XXXX
2. XXXX
3. and so on...
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Personally I don't like them but more i hate this:

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WEEK # 17
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
Liked and Shared Posts:
1. XXXX
2. XXXX
3. and so on...
WEEK # 16
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
Liked and Shared Posts:
1. XXXX
2. XXXX
3. and so on...
WEEK # 15
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
Liked and Shared Posts:
1. XXXX
2. XXXX
3. and so on...
WEEK # 14
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
Liked and Shared Posts:
1. XXXX
2. XXXX
3. and so on...
WEEK # 13
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
Liked and Shared Posts:
1. XXXX
2. XXXX
3. and so on...
WEEK # 12
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
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WEEK # 11
FACEBOOK
Facebook Link: XXXX
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WEEK # 10
FACEBOOK
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and so on...10 times more...

Scrolling such thread is pain in the ass.... and it's almost impossible to find an important message in threat (if there is any) - many people already found it while they miss information about scammy project and got RED TRUST for advertising it...

I think that such posts should be prohibited - today more than 90% bounty managers uses google form to singup, some of them uses it also for submitting reports - its much easier/comfortable - especially for bounty manager so why not to force them to use google forms or other tools for reporting. I understand that despite reporting function reports have one more function - bumping up threat on the list - ok so let hunters report in threat but shortly "@tlegramnick 17 week report done".

other ideas: locking/self moderating etc... fully agreed

Bounty managers are not forum moderators, why would they be responsible for cleaning up spam? Are we going to start getting paid for this? If so, please tell me where to apply.
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As long bounty managing is their work for real money and they USE bitcointalk AS A TOOL which helps them to earn money they can be FORCEED to follow some rules....





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Bounty managers are not forum moderators, why would they be responsible for cleaning up spam? Are we going to start getting paid for this? If so, please tell me where to apply.

Fact!
If they really want to avoid those spammin' and shitposting people, report those accounts. If the bounty managers are accepting spammers and shitposters in his/her campaign, then he/she will face the consequence as one of the fail bounty managers. Let them be on what they're doing because we're on the step-by-step process and soon enough, no more trash posts will exist here.


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October 05, 2018, 03:39:39 AM
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Bounty managers should really implement their campaign with google form as an alternative for reporting in the bounty threads. This way they could help the forum from all the bounty reports posts made everyday from the bounties sections. Kudos to the OP. Appreciated and commended.
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October 05, 2018, 05:15:15 AM
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Many bounty managers are dong their best to ensure stakes are not given to shit posters.
I have gone through many spreadsheet ,and i observed that even the legends,full members and senior members are involved in this mess.
If you go through many spreadsheet,you will see some full members ,senior members,and legend whose details are marked red on the spread sheet.
To make the matter worse,some full members and senior members run multiple accounts for one project,of which bounty managers always track them and reject them by marking their details red.
No bounty manager will like to reward shit posters.
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October 05, 2018, 05:34:29 AM
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From my little experience, I have learnt that 90% of the spam in bounty threads are made by bounty managers. I have reported 3 bounty threads and preparing for another one. So, what I have learnt from those-

1. Bounty managers may get larger payments depending on overall pages. I have seen 3 bounty threads where there were thousands of bumping with at least 500 newbies accounts. Those accounts were made for only bumping threads.

2. Bounty managers payment are based on participants. The more participants are there, the more payment will be given. That's why they bump the bounty thread so that they can get eyed by participants. I have solid proof of this one.

3. Bounty managers ask people to submit reports on the thread while they can create spreadsheet and ask for submit with that. But they don't, because they need more bump for more visibility.

So, who are the ultimate responsible persons here? Definitely bounty managers. Expecting solution from them is nothing but foolish.

Disclaim: This comment is my personal view from my little experience. Not all the bounty managers are responsible but most of them are doing this shady practise.
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October 05, 2018, 10:18:25 AM
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Bounty managers should really implement their campaign with google form as an alternative for reporting in the bounty threads. This way they could help the forum from all the bounty reports posts made everyday from the bounties sections.

This should be a rule in my opinion , this would be positive in several ways:
1) Keep the thread clean so that actual discussion could take place in the thread.
2)  Bots who are posting reports months after bounty have ended mos likely wont be there.

But this requires some level of google sheet skill, possibly some of the bounty managers do not have that :/

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October 05, 2018, 11:06:50 AM
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...either you don't care enough about this forum and the campaign to just read the OP from time time. Or you're a robot.

My gentle suggestions:
1. Keep your threads self-moderated.
2. Clean up nonsense posts.
3. Clean up bounty updates once the campaign is over.
4. Close the thread as soon as all bounties have been distributed.


It is interesting to know who actually posts these nonsense posts. If the bounty managers simply want to promote their post by allowing shitposting, you cannot do anything about it. I mean even if you remove the post, the topic moves to the top of the thread anyway right?
Also, I think deleting these posts won't help, you have to block the user, at least for a period of time.
Closing the thread after they are done with their bounty is something that I can get on board with.

Also, on a completely unrelated topic,
If someone knows how a bot can take care of bounty reporting please send me a dm.  Grin Wink

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October 05, 2018, 01:19:19 PM
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My gentle suggestions:
1. Keep your threads self-moderated.

I am absolutely disagree. If threads will be self-moderated, it will be very difficult to discuss the project and expose scam. I've seen how deleted posts that had criticized the project. People might find out negative information too late.

The best decision is using google forms, but they must be open to keep track reports.

Altcoin threads that are self-moderated are a recipe for disaster.  Any criticism that someone points out flaws or accusations of being a scam will be immediately deleted.  I actually think certain boards shouldn't have a self moderated option because it limits free speech.
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October 05, 2018, 01:52:00 PM
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My gentle suggestions:
4. Close the thread as soon as all bounties have been distributed.


I dont agree with this, what if the delay between the completion of the project and the distribution of bounties for 6 months (even longer than the time of the bounty took place). Most of the bounty report spammers are they don't read the deadline for the completion of the program. If i were a bounty manager, I would lock immediately after the bounty was closed by leaving the last message as an announcement (with a larger writing format that can make them realize that they don't have to waste any more time making their next report).

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October 05, 2018, 02:28:43 PM
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So I've been spending the past few days cleaning up some bounty threads by reporting several messages as spam.

Meh. Bounties (Altcoin) section is created for that very purpose. To confine all the bounty campaign related posts such as signature campaign signups, weekly social media campaign reports etc.
As stated by mrep here

I do not know much about those bounty campaigns but what I do know is that as long as it is posted on a proper section/thread of this forum, it's okey.

If you are concerned about too many spam posts made on this forum, maybe you should try and report your own posts.   Grin
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