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March 06, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
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Why would he use an anonymous email address but then use his real name? I think the reporter used the WHITE PAGES and searched for all the S Nakamoto in the book, found this:
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dorian-Nakamoto/ca

She then happened to find one S Nakamoto in the country who was some sort of engineer, get some random quote and draw vague conclusions based on the fact that "he knows maths"


Question.... why would someone who used an anonymous email address and was secretive, allow his name to be in the freaking white pages using said name, you can remove your name from appearing in the white pages.
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dorian-Nakamoto/ca

This is not Satoshi. Its a Nakamoto who happens to be an engineer.
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March 06, 2014, 06:34:28 PM
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Because the US intelligence agencies build cryptographic systems that even they don't have any way of cracking!

Obviously. I mean, if they build back-doors to their cryptographic systems they would tell us right, otherwise that would be dishonest.


If they knowingly use cryptographic systems with backdoors to encrypt highly sensitive government data, that raises the risk that a group of cryptographers could discover the backdoor (As they did with another ECDSA implementation that was not used by Satoshi). It stands to reason that the NSA does in fact build cryptographic systems that they don't have any way of cracking - in fact, that is the entire point of public key cryptography. That they have built some systems with backdoors does not logically imply that all systems have backdoors.
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March 06, 2014, 06:51:11 PM
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March 06, 2014, 06:57:58 PM
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seriously though. this is a bit out of control. they have just outed the largest bitcoin holder in the world. hope he has his cryptography tuned and ready 'cuz newsweek just put a big frickin bullseye right on his 50 square meters of the planet.
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March 06, 2014, 07:02:20 PM
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The satoshi in newsweek is way too old to be bitcoin's satoshi.

His profile here, states he is 38
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

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March 06, 2014, 07:03:23 PM
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The satoshi in newsweek is way too old to be bitcoin's satoshi.

His profile here, states he is 38
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto



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March 06, 2014, 07:23:42 PM
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I predict the price will 5/600 for a few week, then price will be up to 7/800.


Don't think Satoshi's identity will affect the price too much short term or long term.

why should his identity have any affect on the price at all?  Roll Eyes

Well why should it?

Identity gives information about motivation.
Ultimately, it's just supply and demand. If people thing Satoshi is likely to sell his half-billion-dollar haul of coins, that's not good. If they think he's lost the keys, that is (though not great for him).
If they decide he's working for The Man, that's just rude.

But why would you think that, he's had the coins all this time, doesn't seem likely that he dump them and destroy his creation.

As so many people on these forums do not appreciate, "Past performance is no guarantee of future performance".
I've never died yet. Why would someone think I'm likely to die in the future?
Satoshi has c. 1m coins. He may or may not spend any or all of them. I imagine Satoshi himself is the only person properly qualified to know whether he ever will. In my mind, becoming the potential target of robbery, extortion, crank calls, begging letters, kidnapping and unwanted press intrusion makes him more likely to spend them than before.
And he doesn't seem to care much about his creation, if it even is him.
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March 06, 2014, 07:41:06 PM
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definitely not the same nakamoto

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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March 06, 2014, 07:53:08 PM
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definitely not the same nakamoto

Then Leah McGrath Goodman's career would be in tatters.

Putting out such a story only for it to be proven to be false, would make such a laughing stock of her and the publication, that they would not dare take this risk unless they could back up their claim with verifiable journalistic grounds, if not outright evidence/proof.

It is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

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March 06, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
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definitely not the same nakamoto

Then Leah McGrath Goodman's career would be in tatters.

Putting out such a story only for it to be proven to be false, would make such a laughing stock of her and the publication, that they would not dare take this risk unless they could back up their claim with verifiable journalistic grounds, if not outright evidence/proof.

It is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

The story smells like BS.
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March 06, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
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Satoshi has c. 1m coins. He may or may not spend any or all of them. I imagine Satoshi himself is the only person properly qualified to know whether he ever will. In my mind, becoming the potential target of robbery, extortion, crank calls, begging letters, kidnapping and unwanted press intrusion makes him more likely to spend them than before.

But we do have a final, formidable weapon against Satoshi's upcoming coin dump... Bitstamp's KYC procedures!  Cheesy

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March 06, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
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Satoshi has c. 1m coins. He may or may not spend any or all of them. I imagine Satoshi himself is the only person properly qualified to know whether he ever will. In my mind, becoming the potential target of robbery, extortion, crank calls, begging letters, kidnapping and unwanted press intrusion makes him more likely to spend them than before.

But we do have a final, formidable weapon against Satoshi's upcoming coin dump... Bitstamp's KYC procedures!  Cheesy

(unless they decide to bend the rules for once. It is Satoshi after all.)

If the cat's out of the bag, that's the least of his worries.
Got to wonder, though, if he's lost the key (or chucked it away, way back when). I always wondered what Satoshi was planning to do with his ~$1 billion haul of coins, and why he hadn't touched them - even to move them to another address - for so long.
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March 06, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
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definitely not the same nakamoto

Then Leah McGrath Goodman's career would be in tatters.

Putting out such a story only for it to be proven to be false, would make such a laughing stock of her and the publication, that they would not dare take this risk unless they could back up their claim with verifiable journalistic grounds, if not outright evidence/proof.

It is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

It's not like journalists and newspapers ever make outrageous mistakes in the pursuit of more readers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3716151.stm

I'm on the fence on this one now. Initially, it seemed pretty likely. But a few things don't add up. Not least the chances of a man with a history of being fanatically secretive being in the phonebook.
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March 06, 2014, 09:12:35 PM
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I don't believe it's Satoshi unless she has a PGP-signed message from him. That's all that is needed to prove it's him -- they don't need to show his house, car, etc... none of that is relevant.
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March 06, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
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Well, sounds like we're gonna hear more either way pretty soon:

http://www.businessinsider.com/there-is-a-bitcoin-car-chase-underway-2014-3
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March 06, 2014, 09:31:22 PM
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Well, sounds like we're gonna hear more either way pretty soon:

http://www.businessinsider.com/there-is-a-bitcoin-car-chase-underway-2014-3

The man "satoshi" in the video tells reporters he is "not involved in bitcoin" I don't think this guy even knows much about bitcoin... mistaken identity.
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March 06, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
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welp..he denied it. Got a free lunch though!
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March 06, 2014, 09:34:55 PM
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March 06, 2014, 09:35:08 PM
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This nakamoto "denies" he is the bitcoin creator
https://twitter.com/JoeBelBruno/status/441687699112472577

I Called it....
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March 06, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
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Why would he use an anonymous email address but then use his real name? I think the reporter used the WHITE PAGES and searched for all the S Nakamoto in the book, found this:
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dorian-Nakamoto/ca

She then happened to find one S Nakamoto in the country who was some sort of engineer, get some random quote and draw vague conclusions based on the fact that "he knows maths"


Question.... why would someone who used an anonymous email address and was secretive, allow his name to be in the freaking white pages using said name, you can remove your name from appearing in the white pages.
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dorian-Nakamoto/ca

This is not Satoshi. Its a Nakamoto who happens to be an engineer.

This!!!!  Wink
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