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September 28, 2018, 08:02:24 AM
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           Merit is one important reason why one member sticking around on meta section participating in the forum discussions and most likely to get merit if being recognized as good member and was helpful. However, the section has already flooded with merit beggars. I saw that there are some quite newbie around whose still did not accept after being demoted from jr.member rank.

           However, there are sections on this forum that must be consider as one of the best source of information especially for those who like to learn and earn. Usually we have super spam mega threads on some other sections. This because we did not utilize of the other boards that really needs to function.

          Honestly, I am referring to Local Board that should be consider one of the most important section of the forum especially for native speakers of their own language. I have noticed that in our local board was not that active though I knew that there were few members there already and it seems that they were hanging on meta section to get some merits.

          Hence, I was hoping that there will 1 merit source on every local boards to encourage native speakers to posts on local boards so that other members could also learn from them. There is a need for this to motivate by putting a merit source for the native speakers in the local boards that also contribute in the forum and the discussions. Our very own local board has only 25 merits circulation. I saw a thread the other day to support this claim unfortunately I could not locate that thread again.

         I suggest to put 1 merit source in every Local Boards, Is it Possible?

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September 28, 2018, 08:33:26 AM
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If possible there should be a merit source in every board. There are about 36 merit source now I think.

Scrolling through other sections, you could come across good posts, which just gets lost in the spam, and this leads to users flooding the meta section to get noticed.
And then there are complaints about that, but majority of users are unwilling to go through mega threads or other sections to search for quality posts. So a merit source would help. As it has been doing of course, but more effort would be appreciated.

 
But merit source don't help much if members on local boards only want to participate on forum because merit or/and don't want try make constructive posts.


Everyone wants to be appreciated for good work. That's like saying students go to school for grades and not to learn, they both work together, same with the merit system.
Without quality posts, you can't rank up, no matter what your motive in the forum is.
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September 28, 2018, 08:46:45 AM
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Yes, if there's a good/reputable member who wants to be a merit source. But merit source don't help much if members on local boards only want to participate on forum because merit or/and don't want try make constructive posts.
Merit was only a motivation for everyone to participate in the Local Board just as much as we participate here in the meta section for us to share our valuable inputs for the betterment of the forum and at the same time to receive a reward if possible.

As mention that some of the members will stick on meta section rather than on our very own local board so as suggested it might be an ideal to put a merit source on local boards. I could recommend some of the good guys in our local board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180530, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54791, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) I bet these guys are qualified for this job.

Besides, theymos are looking for merit source who can focus on local section which make it's easier.
Definitely that would be helpful and spamming could be prevented also in this way where more members will go through on local boards rather than spending too much time on spam mega threads or even in meta section.

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September 28, 2018, 09:12:15 AM
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Some users might have to understand the fact that there is no point for merit sources on some boards to be hoarding their merit points too, but it is just way too unconvincing to merit the posts of some members, the issue here lies in, some users might wonder they have written a few good posts, and why are they not receiving any merit for their posts? In my opinion, some merit sources might not feel that it is a constructive posts to convince them to send a merit to that user yet, it is only delusional thinking from the users side who hope to get a few merits for that specific post.

What if those users belongs to the group who are spam posting tons of one liner posts in the past? And out of a sudden, he made 10 posts that are 3 sentences longer, it is only their delusional thinking on their part and they feel they should get at least 1 merit from merit sources. Show the merit sources you are truly a user who are willing to change for the good and start to post better quality posts rather than multiples one liner spam posts, give the merit sources a certain period of time to observe if the users are truly improving or just hoping to get 1 merit and revert to their old posting style of one liner posts. Are those users really in such a rush hoping to get 1 merit in less than a few weeks time?

Honestly speaking, I can't force myself to merit a Newbie user who used to posts tons of multiples one liner posts in the past unless I see that he is willing to change his posting behavior, and I would also need a certain period of time for observation before I would merit his posts, if he is not even able to show people on his determination that he is truly starting to improve his posts quality for a few weeks time, I guess he could only pray and hope someone would give him that 1 merit if he is lucky enough, so he could start to make multiples one liner posts again in order to start earning stakes for his Jr. Member bounty signature campaign.

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September 28, 2018, 03:46:50 PM
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As you can see from this graph, the circulation of Merit in the local section is highly biased towards specific local boards.



Also, for example, it is said that there are three merit sources on Japanese boards(My local board), but the circulation of merits is decreasing very much, and number of post is getting decreasing too.
May 2018 ・・・ ・・112
June 2018 ・・・・・46
July 2018  ・・・・・65
August 2018・・・ ・15
September 2018 ・ ・8

I think the number of merit sources is important, but also quality of posts and the enthusiasm of  merit sources is more important.

I agree with the idea that circulation of Merit is important for each local board to be more active and various ideas come into being.

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September 28, 2018, 04:54:02 PM
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I've thought since the merit system came in that very moderator should be a merit source.

I think that would have worked quite well as a system on here, but it might have given them too much of a job to do I guess...

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September 28, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
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Some local boards are used as the begging place to get Smerits. The boards have specific threads when users can beg merits politely. Just make one constructive post and then go to the thread to post "plz reward the following post". Or "give me 1 merit to rank up to so I can participate in bounty sig"

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September 28, 2018, 07:08:47 PM
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        I suggest to put 1 merit source in every Local Boards, Is it Possible?
I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.
he already mentioned that he wants to have such things
that's why, if I'm not mistaken, he just added a few more merit sources recently
the problem is finding the right user who meets theymos' criteria and can carry out the job responsibly

If possible there should be a merit source in every board. There are about 36 merit source now I think.
There are 120 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 23045 sMerit per 30 days
if you're talking about total merit sources, there are 120 merit sources now as you see quoted above

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September 28, 2018, 10:19:19 PM
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As you can see from this graph, the circulation of Merit in the local section is highly biased towards specific local boards.
The big number of merit in the russian forum is only to explain from the large cheater groups there abusing merit. This is so obvious, Merit needs to be capped there.

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September 28, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
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As you can see from this graph, the circulation of Merit in the local section is highly biased towards specific local boards.
The big number of merit in the russian forum is only to explain from the large cheater groups there abusing merit. This is so obvious, Merit needs to be capped there.

Of course not.

Russian board is one of the biggests local boards of the forum ( I think it is THE biggest)

there are a lot of users posting there frequently and it is a very active board. Russian is also a country where many things related to crypto happen. So no, it is not a "large group of cheaters". There are cheaters everywhere, but I think this is not the reason for high merit volume.

They probably have more sources, as they are basically another forum.


Sections where you can find "large group of cheaters" is the Altcoin Announcents board, which is a 100% spam board, and one of the most merited boardsin the forum

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September 29, 2018, 12:35:55 AM
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Only a few local sections don't have sources now.

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September 29, 2018, 01:25:05 AM
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Only a few local sections don't have sources now.

Glad to know that. I hope that more users will be attracted to post good content in the local sections after this decision. If I am not mistaken, some sources of merit were given instructions to try to distribute them in specific sections. I hope these sources follow these recommendations.
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September 29, 2018, 02:48:17 PM
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Only a few local sections don't have sources now.
Does Philippine Local Board has its own merit source now? I am not aware since the merit source do not speak of themselves that they are merit source. Thus, one way to prevent other members from begging to get merit and spamming messages to that member as well. And if there are only few sections that has no merit source then probably Philippines got a merit source on the local board.

I should visit that local board and try to figure out the movement of merits in the section. This would be a great opportunity for every members that deserve to get merits. This is where fun starts now and we can actively participate in our local boards. I can express there concretely and will also look back on this section of course for there are experts on this forum when it comes to technicalities. There are lot of things that I could learn from those good guys here.
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September 29, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
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Only a few local sections don't have sources now.
Glad to read this reply!

Glad to know that. I hope that more users will be attracted to post good content in the local sections after this decision. If I am not mistaken, some sources of merit were given instructions to try to distribute them in specific sections. I hope these sources follow these recommendations.
theymos is not that naive to choose a merit source in a specific section.  He should have provided a protocol and a condition to be a merit source like merit is a hot issue and should not mess with it if you will be chosen as merit source.

So i expect that there could be a slight percentage increase on rank up accounts. It would be great if it happen that i could be one of it. LOL




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September 29, 2018, 04:23:17 PM
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I am wondering if there is going to be just 1 merit source per local section or there can be more? Too many would be counterproductive, but 2 or 3, depending on the board, could help improve the section.
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September 29, 2018, 04:52:03 PM
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I am wondering if there is going to be just 1 merit source per local section or there can be more? Too many would be counterproductive, but 2 or 3, depending on the board, could help improve the section.

If they understand English too then there can't be too many per local board as they can award the english posts too.

Only a few local sections don't have sources now.

That's good! Can you ask the moderators if they'd be interested in doing it?

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I am wondering if there is going to be just 1 merit source per local section or there can be more? Too many would be counterproductive, but 2 or 3, depending on the board, could help improve the section.

If they understand English too then there can't be too many per local board as they can award the english posts too. 

From what you say, I think I misunderstood how local merit sources work. I thought they were limited to give a certain amount of merits in that specific local board. Isn’t that the case? If it isn’t, I think I made mistake when I applied to be a merit source, I should have applied to be a local merit source. I didn’t because I spent much more time on the English section than on the Spanish one, although I visit the Spanish one regularly.
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September 30, 2018, 05:47:05 AM
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From what you say, I think I misunderstood how local merit sources work. I thought they were limited to give a certain amount of merits in that specific local board. Isn’t that the case? If it isn’t, I think I made mistake when I applied to be a merit source, I should have applied to be a local merit source. I didn’t because I spent much more time on the English section than on the Spanish one, although I visit the Spanish one regularly.

I don't think there is any particular restriction or rules about it, as long as your 'job' as a merit source is consistent with the reason of of you gave in the application.
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September 30, 2018, 04:39:16 PM
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From what you say, I think I misunderstood how local merit sources work. I thought they were limited to give a certain amount of merits in that specific local board. Isn’t that the case? If it isn’t, I think I made mistake when I applied to be a merit source, I should have applied to be a local merit source. I didn’t because I spent much more time on the English section than on the Spanish one, although I visit the Spanish one regularly.

You can award merits in every section.
If you couldn't you could use your Source Merits in one section that you applied for and your Spendable Merits in another section anyway so I think Source Merits are a global thing...

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September 30, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
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Only a few local sections don't have sources now.
Thanks
That's a good news...
Local merit sources is helpful to us.
We can learn and share knowledge with other easily.
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