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September 29, 2018, 12:40:32 AM
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Currently, I’m studying for hobby/work all the information we have at our disposal in The Complete Satoshi of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute website.

 I started with the early emails and I‘m in the forum activities now, although it is quite technical and there are things of programming and encryption that I do not understand, his way of explaining and his excellent command of English make it quite understandable from a newbie perspective. 

I also know the different forums that he took part in and how he/she/it was creating a community around Bitcoin, until apparently ceased to exist in 2014, inquiring a little in his different users on those forums, I realized that he neither said goodbye and never seemed to retire, was really a sudden disappearance and left me a bit surprised.

What do you think happened to him?
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What do you think happened to him?
I think the first thing to note is that this platform is decentralized,meaning it's in the hands of the users and investors,i think satoshi deliberately left to leave it that way..If satoshi were to be around he'll wield enormous authority,he will have veto powers and make and unmake rules,that I think would have affected the decentralized nature of this system
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September 29, 2018, 01:59:05 AM
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Currently, I’m studying for hobby/work all the information we have at our disposal in The Complete Satoshi of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute website.

 I started with the early emails and I‘m in the forum activities now, although it is quite technical and there are things of programming and encryption that I do not understand, his way of explaining and his excellent command of English make it quite understandable from a newbie perspective.

I also know the different forums that he took part in and how he/she/it was creating a community around Bitcoin, until apparently ceased to exist in 2014, inquiring a little in his different users on those forums, I realized that he neither said goodbye and never seemed to retire, was really a sudden disappearance and left me a bit surprised.

What do you think happened to him?

he disappeared way before 2014
try not to mix satoshi the bitcoin creator with other satoshi, the random people who pretend to have been him or accused of being him or been promoted/named as being him

the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community to come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

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September 29, 2018, 02:09:17 AM
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the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

This really sounded very noble for me. And I hope this is true.

What do you think happened to him?

Anyone can create a new account and pretend to be another man. The same with some people pretending to him. If I were satoshi, I will still influence the consensus. I will not just go and left this technology. I would have created a new account and influence BIPs with my inputs. Just to make sure everything is still noble.
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September 29, 2018, 02:14:07 AM
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the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

This really sounded very noble for me. And I hope this is true.

What do you think happened to him?

Anyone can create a new account and pretend to be another man. The same with some people pretending to him. If I were satoshi, I will still influence the consensus. I will not just go and left this technology. I would have created a new account and influence BIPs with my inputs. Just to make sure everything is still noble.

if that were true i would have seen many times/events where he could have stepped in. but certain things have been done that have caused bitcoin to migrate away from the original principles and ethos. so id say he has taken a step back to not influence it

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September 29, 2018, 02:50:10 AM
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He knows it is the only way to preserve the existence of bitcoin. I believe that it wasn't planned by him from the beginning. I guess, in 2010, he realized a big risk if he continued his activities in the forum. However, I think the way is very genius, he leaves the forum but not the system. Yes, he only leaves the name (Satoshi), and it is possible for him to change the identity to the other name in a forum or here. (It is only my own speculation)  

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September 29, 2018, 02:53:56 AM
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he lost his laptop after an earthquake. he lost all his private key. and bitcoin is decentralized so he can't does anything. that's satoshi Nakamoto  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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September 29, 2018, 03:10:57 AM
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the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

This really sounded very noble for me. And I hope this is true.

What do you think happened to him?

Anyone can create a new account and pretend to be another man. The same with some people pretending to him. If I were satoshi, I will still influence the consensus. I will not just go and left this technology. I would have created a new account and influence BIPs with my inputs. Just to make sure everything is still noble.

Sure, it makes sense, I imagine he was seeing himself as a centralized figure, and he walked away to avoid that, who knows, he probably walks among us or went on vacation with his bitcoins haha.
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September 29, 2018, 03:19:37 AM
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I think he has remained a mystery in the bitcoin project until now, but in the main satoshi in my opinion personally is that he is an admirer who gives a revolution in the payment system today.

Maybe there are many factors that can happen if Satoshi suddenly appears many who think he is just an ordinary grandfather who lives modestly but it is still an issue, and maybe it will remain a mystery, who exactly satoshi.
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September 29, 2018, 04:11:36 AM
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I think like cryptocurrency is anonymous, the name Satoshi itself is also anonymous not the real name. maybe at first he did not expect that this industry would develop quite rapidly and phenomenally as it is now. I am sure "Satoshi" does not just go and leave this industry, he is still out there looking at developments or even still contributing but in other forms and names. more than that, the mystery of the existence of satoshi to this day in my opinion is quite good, compared to he suddenly appears, it will be very dangerous, it does not rule out the possibility that certain interest groups will try to suppress his position as a pioneer of bitcoin today.
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September 29, 2018, 04:34:50 AM
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No one can say anything definite about Satoshi Nakamoto. Maybe he disappeared from our field of vision intentionally, there was a definite meaning for this. And maybe with him some misfortune happened and he is no longer alive. I think, hardly anyone will get to the bottom of the truth. The more time passes, the more difficult it is to establish the truth.

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September 29, 2018, 06:59:48 AM
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No one knows for sure. For me, I think he is still well and alive. However, he probably will never come into the public eye, as it would break its purpose of decentralization. Who knows, he may be watching this forum and think what a creative invention he made.
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September 29, 2018, 07:10:23 AM
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My opinion is that he left the panel for a simple reason. In a decentralized system "Everyone is Satoshi" as long as he participates on that. So. you, me everyone who contribute can take the role of Satoshi in this ecosystem that works without a central authority.
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September 29, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is most likely someone from the CIA or FBI. I think he's probably a programmer who just wanted to share the technology of Blockchain, and hence Bitcoin, anonymously because it is, in effect, just money.
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September 29, 2018, 07:34:54 AM
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something people didn't mention (maybe i am making a mistake) is that Satoshi went away near the time when Gavin was asked to go to one of those 3 letter agencies and they asked him some stuff. maybe about Satoshi's identity and about bitcoin so maybe that is the reason why he disappeared. in order to keep his identity private and be safe from harassment of government.

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something people didn't mention (maybe i am making a mistake) is that Satoshi went away near the time when Gavin was asked to go to one of those 3 letter agencies and they asked him some stuff. maybe about Satoshi's identity and about bitcoin so maybe that is the reason why he disappeared. in order to keep his identity private and be safe from harassment of government.

Yeah, I was about to mention that. Gavin talked about it in an interview once:

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Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding

So, the timing of Satoshi's disappearance definitely points to that. It may have been the last straw -- an indication that Bitcoin was getting too big for him to remain involved and also keep his identity unknown.

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It is not a big surprise what happened to him/her/them as you described Satoshi.  Grin  Gavin was "invited" to speak with the

US National agencies and he reported this to Satoshi. This was the single event that caused Satoshi to panic and then to exit

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At the time, most people got arrested if they created their own money and Satoshi was well aware of that, so he/she/they

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He just took the privacy matter seriously. So he never regret in the future. He basically disappeared in the web based life so no-one can target him back to any issue related on his / their whitepaper. He is a genius...mmm I'd have said they are because I still think a single human being cannot do such a huge task all alone.
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My opinion is that he left the panel for a simple reason. In a decentralized system "Everyone is Satoshi" as long as he participates on that. So. you, me everyone who contribute can take the role of Satoshi in this ecosystem that works without a central authority.

Interesting idea. In my opinion, Satoshi is passionated about the development of Bitcoin project. He does not try to reach money, but an ideal : the decentralization. And the decentralization would be corrupted if its identity was revealed (one big holder, can "control" the Bitcoin by influencing the mass..).
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if that were true i would have seen many times/events where he could have stepped in. but certain things have been done that have caused bitcoin to migrate away from the original principles and ethos. so id say he has taken a step back to not influence it

It is still not impossible, right? Who would know if he was here just listening, silently saying yes in his/her/its mind of all those modifications.

Sure, it makes sense, I imagine he was seeing himself as a centralized figure, and he walked away to avoid that, who knows, he probably walks among us or went on vacation with his bitcoins haha.

If I were him I'd do both, vacation and check out what happens to bitcoin. Besides, I have a bunch of BTCs on my wallet.
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September 29, 2018, 12:18:25 PM
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He better be enjoying his Bitcoins right now. He has a very serious number of BTCs. Even I think a talk with him right now, he can re-animate Bitcoin. Bitcoin price can be revived immediately. I wish a sound would come.
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September 29, 2018, 01:07:27 PM
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I think no one knows whats happen to Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto.. He is legend for me but why he got away? Did he scared of something? Did someone threated him? As far as i know that he has billions of dollar of worth of bitcoin and he is one of the richest man on the earth. But i wpuşdn't say he is come out again.. He will stay silence i believe..
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hard to say. but i hope it will green. i lose so much money in this market. now i don't want lose money again.
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I think no one knows whats happen to Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto.. He is legend for me but why he got away? Did he scared of something? Did someone threated him? As far as i know that he has billions of dollar of worth of bitcoin and he is one of the richest man on the earth. But i wpuşdn't say he is come out again.. He will stay silence i believe..

It's all pure speculation because I think nobody really knows what happened, or at least they haven't revealed it so far, but I think it was because bitcoin was becoming too centralized, many developers didn't make any move without Satoshi's approval, which was against their own philosophy.
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He was kidnapped by the cia and is now held in guantanamo bay detention centre unless he gives up his private keys  Grin

Seriously though, i think he wanted to step away and watch it grow without a central figure

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Wherever he is, I hope he is going fine with great health and family, etc but I don't think it matters and it's better to not know, let's the Bitcoin myth survive Cheesy For the conspiracy theories fans, I suppose they will say he is still working for the NSA,

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It seems to me that he is further engaged in communicating on this and other forums under various names. The name or pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto is too well known and carries a certain information load so that you can continue to use it freely to communicate.

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There is an opinion that Satoshi is a group of people. At a certain point in the history of bitcoin, this group was no longer needed.

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November 06, 2018, 09:31:49 PM
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Probably Satoshi just coped with the task of popularizing Bitcoin and now somewhere in warm lands is reaping the fruits of his labors or is engaged in some other project that does not require communication with the public.
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Some people think he just left so that bitcoin wasn't under his control/guidance and it could left to be truly decentralized. Personally I think he died.. I don't see how any human could leave their wallets untouched if they had that many bitcoin in. Unless he/she was already wealthy  Huh

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November 06, 2018, 09:41:46 PM
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I don't believe he's dead. He came along to fulfill a job. When it looked like the rest of the world was taking the job on, his job was done and he disengaged for good.

I'm unsure about the group theory. Every extra person is another weak link in keeping silent and with that amount of wealth available I don't see how every single person of what might be a large number would be that altruistic.
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November 06, 2018, 09:51:01 PM
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Nothing, imo he's just a brilliant guy who faded away with the expansion of btc. He wanted a decentralized system, without leader. He went to the end of his philosophy, even if it meant giving up several billion $. I would rather have a name to admire than a person in himself with all his potential flaws. Everyone is free to create their own satoshi myth !
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November 06, 2018, 09:52:32 PM
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I think he purposely hid his identity to make his currency as independent and decentralized as possible. Hardly with him happened that the bad. The whole task around his personality is carefully thought out.



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November 06, 2018, 09:53:44 PM
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Some people think he just left so that bitcoin wasn't under his control/guidance and it could left to be truly decentralized. Personally I think he died.. I don't see how any human could leave their wallets untouched if they had that many bitcoin in. Unless he/she was already wealthy  Huh

if he/they was already wealthy?
after death someone inherits something. it is as a rule.

I'm unsure about the group theory. Every extra person is another weak link in keeping silent and with that amount of wealth available I don't see how every single person of what might be a large number would be that altruistic.

How many businesses and corporations were built on the wave of Bitcoin development? perhaps it’s not just altruism, but the quality and ways of enrichment.

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November 06, 2018, 09:58:17 PM
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This is a brilliant decision by Satoshi (or whatever his real name) - to conceal his identity. Thus, he gave independence to his currency and protected himself from excessive attention and even pressure from the government.

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November 06, 2018, 10:01:23 PM
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Noone knows what now happens to him but it was very important that he was always just a anonymous person.
So no one can bind the bitcoin on any person .


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November 06, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
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I don't know the reason why he left Bitcoin, but, today he is always in our midst. although Satoshi left bitcoin, but today, we see that bitcoin has a very good growth every day.

my speculation is that Satoshi wants to protect his privacy to protect his security.

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What happened to him or her or the group known as satoshi?
Maybe nothing of note, maybe he has many many alt accounts on the forum?
Maybe satoshi is Franky1? Maybe I am satoshi?
All these answers remain unanswered because satoshi remains anonymous.

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November 06, 2018, 10:22:52 PM
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What happened to him or her or the group known as satoshi?
Maybe nothing of note, maybe he has many many alt accounts on the forum?
Maybe satoshi is Franky1? Maybe I am satoshi?
All these answers remain unanswered because satoshi remains anonymous.

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November 06, 2018, 10:35:07 PM
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i thought, he didn't want his identity to be discovered so he became anonymous
and at this time even though he became anonymous, i think he still helped build the development of bitcoin/blockchain as anonymous of course

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November 06, 2018, 10:51:29 PM
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I think he left because the decentralized platform system was running on its own, and it didn't need the owner because it was running on the basis of users and investors. I thought that Satoshi Nakamoto did not leave, he monitored and enjoyed from a distance and did not want to be exposed to the media or the government. This is just my opinion, Sorry if there is an error. thank you
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November 06, 2018, 11:10:48 PM
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I think Satoshi nakamoto is someone who is not from Japan, but from a group of rulers who control this world through their hands behind the monitor, so the name Satoshi is a mere pseudonym. Because I believe that there is a group of people who are very strong behind today's world finances.
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November 06, 2018, 11:12:43 PM
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Wherever he is, I hope he is going fine with great health and family, etc but I don't think it matters and it's better to not know, let's the Bitcoin myth survive Cheesy For the conspiracy theories fans, I suppose they will say he is still working for the NSA,
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No one can express what actually had happened to Satoshi Nakamoto even the most interesting thing is nobody has seen him yet. In fact, Satoshi Nakamoto intentionally disappeared himself most probably due to having a security issue. Maybe Satoshi still living in this digital crypto market in disguise mode.

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What happened to him or her or the group known as satoshi?
Maybe nothing of note, maybe he has many many alt accounts on the forum?
Maybe satoshi is Franky1? Maybe I am satoshi?
All these answers remain unanswered because satoshi remains anonymous.

So we caught you, Satoshi!

Maybe, maybe not  Cool

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November 07, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
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Some people think he just left so that bitcoin wasn't under his control/guidance and it could left to be truly decentralized. Personally I think he died.. I don't see how any human could leave their wallets untouched if they had that many bitcoin in. Unless he/she was already wealthy  Huh

if he/they was already wealthy?
after death someone inherits something. it is as a rule.


If satoshi was already wealthy that may explain the willingness to leave their wallets untouched. No one would inherit them unless he gave them the private key, which if they do not want the money for themselves they're not going to pass on to their next generation on death. Inheritance is also not a rule. People can simply forego their things when they die and no-one inherits them.

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November 07, 2018, 10:02:35 AM
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Currently, I’m studying for hobby/work all the information we have at our disposal in The Complete Satoshi of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute website.

 I started with the early emails and I‘m in the forum activities now, although it is quite technical and there are things of programming and encryption that I do not understand, his way of explaining and his excellent command of English make it quite understandable from a newbie perspective. 

I also know the different forums that he took part in and how he/she/it was creating a community around Bitcoin, until apparently ceased to exist in 2014, inquiring a little in his different users on those forums, I realized that he neither said goodbye and never seemed to retire, was really a sudden disappearance and left me a bit surprised.

What do you think happened to him?
He knew he initiated what he wanted to then he knew that people will take it forward. He didn't want to play with fire, because he knew it wouldn't make a difference with or without him. The whole concept of bitcoin was to distribute power among people, how would that go if the leader is keeping power to himself!

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November 07, 2018, 10:10:51 AM
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The mystery behind Satoshi Nakamoto disappearance can't be unveil and I think it is related to the way he wanted the cryptocurrency market to be. Decentralize without a trace of the owner or holder of a particular coin.

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November 07, 2018, 10:25:45 AM
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I would like to think he left the spotlight for noble reasons, such as allowing decentralization to be a collaborative effort that depends more on the individuals who believe in it rather than any one person, but I think he was scared.

Many people would've wanted someone like this dead, and would be an enemy of various corrupt governments.
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I think he is still alive and somewhere very close to the forum with new identity for the betterment of the cryptocurrency to really be what it is called , decentralized and for him taking this bold step to hide his identity is one of the best thing that has happened to cryptocurrency , he is still very alive and close to us in new identity.

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I'm sure he/she/they are still around

I think in order to help you find your answer to where they are now, it'd be good to know where they came from first

I'm not a conspiracy fan so to speak but I do have an open mind and accept conspiracies are a part of life... like the desire of the financial elite to have a single world currency

If you wanted a currency that is highly traceable then bitcoin is perfect

Bitcoin by the people for the people as the antidote to the fraudulent system we have right now is almost too good to be true it's like a fairy tail... but that doesn't mean it's not true

Still it's worth keeping an open mind... have you seen this link before: https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

Can you authenticate it?... allegedly it was produced in 1996 and pretty much describes bitcoin and blockchain tech

FriedFrank.com allegedly got permission to publish it on MIT servers... maybe you could follow them up for authenticity

If this paper has already been discredited then my apologies for sharing it... it's still a good read even for a non tech

Good luck
p.s. if satoshi is of the people then I wish they remain anonymous... if it's state then it's only right this is revealed... regardless of it's origins the pandora's box of open source code, innovation, fairness and humanitarian altruism has been blown open

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November 07, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
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This is the usual practice of many legendary characters, leaving a legend of a hero, disappeared from people's sights. no one knows who he is, no one knows where he is now. does not take anything, but leaves an immortal legend.
Suddenly appeared and then disappeared quickly,like ghost pirate.

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This is the usual practice of many legendary characters, leaving a legend of a hero, disappeared from people's sights. no one knows who he is, no one knows where he is now. does not take anything, but leaves an immortal legend.
Suddenly appeared and then disappeared quickly,like ghost pirate.

Like Batman.
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