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September 29, 2018, 12:40:32 AM
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Currently, I’m studying for hobby/work all the information we have at our disposal in The Complete Satoshi of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute website.

 I started with the early emails and I‘m in the forum activities now, although it is quite technical and there are things of programming and encryption that I do not understand, his way of explaining and his excellent command of English make it quite understandable from a newbie perspective. 

I also know the different forums that he took part in and how he/she/it was creating a community around Bitcoin, until apparently ceased to exist in 2014, inquiring a little in his different users on those forums, I realized that he neither said goodbye and never seemed to retire, was really a sudden disappearance and left me a bit surprised.

What do you think happened to him?
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What do you think happened to him?
I think the first thing to note is that this platform is decentralized,meaning it's in the hands of the users and investors,i think satoshi deliberately left to leave it that way..If satoshi were to be around he'll wield enormous authority,he will have veto powers and make and unmake rules,that I think would have affected the decentralized nature of this system
  Just as the saying goes"power corrupts,but absolute power corrupts absolutely".

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September 29, 2018, 01:59:05 AM
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Currently, I’m studying for hobby/work all the information we have at our disposal in The Complete Satoshi of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute website.

 I started with the early emails and I‘m in the forum activities now, although it is quite technical and there are things of programming and encryption that I do not understand, his way of explaining and his excellent command of English make it quite understandable from a newbie perspective.

I also know the different forums that he took part in and how he/she/it was creating a community around Bitcoin, until apparently ceased to exist in 2014, inquiring a little in his different users on those forums, I realized that he neither said goodbye and never seemed to retire, was really a sudden disappearance and left me a bit surprised.

What do you think happened to him?

he disappeared way before 2014
try not to mix satoshi the bitcoin creator with other satoshi, the random people who pretend to have been him or accused of being him or been promoted/named as being him

the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community to come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

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September 29, 2018, 02:09:17 AM
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the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

This really sounded very noble for me. And I hope this is true.

What do you think happened to him?

Anyone can create a new account and pretend to be another man. The same with some people pretending to him. If I were satoshi, I will still influence the consensus. I will not just go and left this technology. I would have created a new account and influence BIPs with my inputs. Just to make sure everything is still noble.
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September 29, 2018, 02:14:07 AM
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the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

This really sounded very noble for me. And I hope this is true.

What do you think happened to him?

Anyone can create a new account and pretend to be another man. The same with some people pretending to him. If I were satoshi, I will still influence the consensus. I will not just go and left this technology. I would have created a new account and influence BIPs with my inputs. Just to make sure everything is still noble.

if that were true i would have seen many times/events where he could have stepped in. but certain things have been done that have caused bitcoin to migrate away from the original principles and ethos. so id say he has taken a step back to not influence it

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September 29, 2018, 02:50:10 AM
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He knows it is the only way to preserve the existence of bitcoin. I believe that it wasn't planned by him from the beginning. I guess, in 2010, he realized a big risk if he continued his activities in the forum. However, I think the way is very genius, he leaves the forum but not the system. Yes, he only leaves the name (Satoshi), and it is possible for him to change the identity to the other name in a forum or here. (It is only my own speculation)  

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September 29, 2018, 02:53:56 AM
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he lost his laptop after an earthquake. he lost all his private key. and bitcoin is decentralized so he can't does anything. that's satoshi Nakamoto  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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September 29, 2018, 03:10:57 AM
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the reason he left the forums in 2010 was because he was realising too many people were relying on him to review code and decide things. he wanted the developmnt to have no leader, no reference point and no central point. where by people can write their own nodes and as a community come to an open and level playingfield consensus of unity to find solutions and grow the network under such consensus.

This really sounded very noble for me. And I hope this is true.

What do you think happened to him?

Anyone can create a new account and pretend to be another man. The same with some people pretending to him. If I were satoshi, I will still influence the consensus. I will not just go and left this technology. I would have created a new account and influence BIPs with my inputs. Just to make sure everything is still noble.

Sure, it makes sense, I imagine he was seeing himself as a centralized figure, and he walked away to avoid that, who knows, he probably walks among us or went on vacation with his bitcoins haha.
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September 29, 2018, 03:19:37 AM
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I think he has remained a mystery in the bitcoin project until now, but in the main satoshi in my opinion personally is that he is an admirer who gives a revolution in the payment system today.

Maybe there are many factors that can happen if Satoshi suddenly appears many who think he is just an ordinary grandfather who lives modestly but it is still an issue, and maybe it will remain a mystery, who exactly satoshi.
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September 29, 2018, 04:11:36 AM
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I think like cryptocurrency is anonymous, the name Satoshi itself is also anonymous not the real name. maybe at first he did not expect that this industry would develop quite rapidly and phenomenally as it is now. I am sure "Satoshi" does not just go and leave this industry, he is still out there looking at developments or even still contributing but in other forms and names. more than that, the mystery of the existence of satoshi to this day in my opinion is quite good, compared to he suddenly appears, it will be very dangerous, it does not rule out the possibility that certain interest groups will try to suppress his position as a pioneer of bitcoin today.
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September 29, 2018, 04:34:50 AM
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No one can say anything definite about Satoshi Nakamoto. Maybe he disappeared from our field of vision intentionally, there was a definite meaning for this. And maybe with him some misfortune happened and he is no longer alive. I think, hardly anyone will get to the bottom of the truth. The more time passes, the more difficult it is to establish the truth.

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September 29, 2018, 06:59:48 AM
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No one knows for sure. For me, I think he is still well and alive. However, he probably will never come into the public eye, as it would break its purpose of decentralization. Who knows, he may be watching this forum and think what a creative invention he made.
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September 29, 2018, 07:10:23 AM
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My opinion is that he left the panel for a simple reason. In a decentralized system "Everyone is Satoshi" as long as he participates on that. So. you, me everyone who contribute can take the role of Satoshi in this ecosystem that works without a central authority.
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September 29, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is most likely someone from the CIA or FBI. I think he's probably a programmer who just wanted to share the technology of Blockchain, and hence Bitcoin, anonymously because it is, in effect, just money.
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September 29, 2018, 07:34:54 AM
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something people didn't mention (maybe i am making a mistake) is that Satoshi went away near the time when Gavin was asked to go to one of those 3 letter agencies and they asked him some stuff. maybe about Satoshi's identity and about bitcoin so maybe that is the reason why he disappeared. in order to keep his identity private and be safe from harassment of government.

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September 29, 2018, 07:55:27 AM
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something people didn't mention (maybe i am making a mistake) is that Satoshi went away near the time when Gavin was asked to go to one of those 3 letter agencies and they asked him some stuff. maybe about Satoshi's identity and about bitcoin so maybe that is the reason why he disappeared. in order to keep his identity private and be safe from harassment of government.

Yeah, I was about to mention that. Gavin talked about it in an interview once:

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Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding

So, the timing of Satoshi's disappearance definitely points to that. It may have been the last straw -- an indication that Bitcoin was getting too big for him to remain involved and also keep his identity unknown.

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It is not a big surprise what happened to him/her/them as you described Satoshi.  Grin  Gavin was "invited" to speak with the

US National agencies and he reported this to Satoshi. This was the single event that caused Satoshi to panic and then to exit

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At the time, most people got arrested if they created their own money and Satoshi was well aware of that, so he/she/they

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September 29, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
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He just took the privacy matter seriously. So he never regret in the future. He basically disappeared in the web based life so no-one can target him back to any issue related on his / their whitepaper. He is a genius...mmm I'd have said they are because I still think a single human being cannot do such a huge task all alone.
Anyway you do not have to care too much about him/them and instead start spreading the word to your friends and whoever you are speaking to: the next big thing has already come.
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September 29, 2018, 08:14:31 AM
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My opinion is that he left the panel for a simple reason. In a decentralized system "Everyone is Satoshi" as long as he participates on that. So. you, me everyone who contribute can take the role of Satoshi in this ecosystem that works without a central authority.

Interesting idea. In my opinion, Satoshi is passionated about the development of Bitcoin project. He does not try to reach money, but an ideal : the decentralization. And the decentralization would be corrupted if its identity was revealed (one big holder, can "control" the Bitcoin by influencing the mass..).
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September 29, 2018, 12:13:28 PM
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if that were true i would have seen many times/events where he could have stepped in. but certain things have been done that have caused bitcoin to migrate away from the original principles and ethos. so id say he has taken a step back to not influence it

It is still not impossible, right? Who would know if he was here just listening, silently saying yes in his/her/its mind of all those modifications.

Sure, it makes sense, I imagine he was seeing himself as a centralized figure, and he walked away to avoid that, who knows, he probably walks among us or went on vacation with his bitcoins haha.

If I were him I'd do both, vacation and check out what happens to bitcoin. Besides, I have a bunch of BTCs on my wallet.
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