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October 05, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.
I don't think it is actually allowed to sell or trade merits its because if the moderators caught this kind of a transaction they will put red trust both accounts or be banned in this forum and the reputation of the accounts will be ruined.
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October 05, 2018, 12:55:55 AM
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Why would merit a big deal to someone? Is it because for the sole purpose of bounty hunting? Well if thats the case, I dont see merit buying can help someone, instead they are putting themselves in a big trouble once caught, and that "sole purpose" will be gone forever. Sometimes, people are so desperate to something and tend to make stupid things which they think was the answer to the difficulties they're experiencing, when the reality is the other way around.

IMO, I'd rather look for forum violators and make a posts about it in meta section with complete presentation of evidence. In that way, I am helping the forum at the same time earning merit points, rather than spending bucks to prohibited stuff that puts your reputation at risks.

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October 05, 2018, 06:35:15 AM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible?

Of course, they are not allowed to do so. It's just that they are "risky" and "heady" people that even though they know very well that it is forbidden to do so, they still do. I think the accounts they used to posts such daring posts are their alt accounts, that's why they don't care when they get caught and sanctioned. Yeah, they should be banned. They are scammers and not to be trusted. Those buying those accounts and merits should be banned too, as well as the accounts for sale. They are altogether cancer of this forum, who ruined the very purpose of providing quality information about crypto and not just some nasty, scrappy posts.  
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October 05, 2018, 06:37:52 AM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.
I don't think it is actually allowed to sell or trade merits its because if the moderators caught this kind of a transaction they will put red trust both accounts or be banned in this forum and the reputation of the accounts will be ruined.

I think it is against the rules and regulation of the Bitcointalk and if moderators find definitely they will block all the account which have the relation by selling the Btctalk accounts and merits and we have to be very careful with those people and stay away from them.
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October 06, 2018, 10:47:31 AM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.
But why would anyone be selling their merits and accounts which took them a hard work to raise? 🤔To me that’s stupid. I can’t do that, I know how hard I’m working here to raise my account and also gain merits, cause I know that it’s going to help in future and I’m really going to benefit from it. Well, I can’t tell people what to do, whatever they chose to do is their business and not mine.
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October 07, 2018, 02:08:12 AM
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Earning merits is not Easy. It can only be earned by hard work so they can sell it.
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October 07, 2018, 04:24:55 AM
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this is a good idea. but we can't stop selling account bro. they can sell their account.
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October 07, 2018, 01:20:38 PM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

This is not fair actually. Merit system created to encourage better quality posts in forum that newbie or others can learn better things from it. But if it goes to hire rank in forum thats a very bad news for form. I think moderators should caught in hang for that. But it is difficult to caught evil person who doing this i think.
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October 08, 2018, 12:50:59 AM
Last edit: October 08, 2018, 05:52:52 AM by Thule
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On this forum is a double standard.

Selling account makes that you get tagged so ask yourself why all the big lender boys who are taking bitcointalk accounts as collateral haven't been tagged till today.

Also about merit make it just like the big boys Lauda or thepharmacyst just create a merit circle and noone will be able to proof that you haven't given legit merit since if you watch on what posts they gave merit each other its just insane.They basicly gave merit for spam posts to each other.

So fuck them the same way
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October 08, 2018, 04:25:59 AM
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This happened because of the implementation of the new merit system and turned out to be one of the new businesses here in bitcointalk forum. In the past it was only selling hack accounts now more income opportunities can gain scammers profit. It seems to me that this merit system is kind of rubbish because you can get merits if you can pay someone who can do it.

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October 08, 2018, 05:00:43 AM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Moderators cannot be everywhere at the same time. For even keeping the forum sane up till this time, they sure deserves some accolades. The issue of buying and selling has been something that have plagued the forum and I know some DT members have taken it upon themselves to clean up that section of the forum but its not a perfect effort. Its might not be eradicated, but its surely going to be frustrated.

This happened because of the implementation of the new merit system and turned out to be one of the new businesses here in bitcointalk forum. In the past it was only selling hack accounts now more income opportunities can gain scammers profit. It seems to me that this merit system is kind of rubbish because you can get merits if you can pay someone who can do it.

You are so right and entitle to your opinion but blaming the forum for instituting such control measures is just wrong. The merit system was introduced with the purest form of intentions to sanitise the forum and preventing garbage posters from ranking up. If this is now being bastardized by some set of people, then we should join hands to frustrate such effort.
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October 08, 2018, 05:58:05 AM
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The abuse on merit and false tagging is done by a group of legendary assholes.


I bought myself one account which wasn't hacked at all.
It was bought as it was needed for a friend so he can post images on his Ann thread.
He gave on that thread his personal details and his company details.
There were never a signle scam accuse on his thread which has over 90 pages now.


And i got tagged by these fuckers as scammer because i "bought an account to scam people"


How the fuck these asshole wanna know what i'm going to do with that account.They are generalising everyone and thats a big issue.
The trade of accounts is explecit allowed based on rules and who the fuck gave them the right to judge a bunch of assholes if i'm going to use that account in a accurate or non accurate way to tag me ?
 
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October 10, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
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The abuse on merit and false tagging is done by a group of legendary assholes.


I bought myself one account which wasn't hacked at all.
It was bought as it was needed for a friend so he can post images on his Ann thread.
He gave on that thread his personal details and his company details.
There were never a signle scam accuse on his thread which has over 90 pages now.


And i got tagged by these fuckers as scammer because i "bought an account to scam people"


How the fuck these asshole wanna know what i'm going to do with that account.They are generalising everyone and thats a big issue.
The trade of accounts is explecit allowed based on rules and who the fuck gave them the right to judge a bunch of assholes if i'm going to use that account in a accurate or non accurate way to tag me ?
 

I wasn't aware that Legendaries were trading merit, sad tho, I read one of your threads where you point out the behaviour of such people, this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829282.0
In it, The Pharmacist answers like this " They can do what they like with their merit points", a guy is literally showing you that they are trading merit but you say oh they can do whatever they want with it, then why punish other merit traders with negative trust, that just seems so wrong, wasn't merit supposed to be given only to worthy posts? That is just plain dumb.
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October 10, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
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You should report if you see some users or members selling his/her merit points it is prohibited, merit points should give to those post have more quality and having some knowledge that can helps many members in thia community.
Moderators can double check the account that you been reported and i am sure they will tagged them or worstly they will banned.

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October 10, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
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If you saw a lot of suspicious merit sharing then that can really be a merit selling. However that is hard to tag for now unless you have proven that those two accounts are connected.

Usually DT's on the other hand will tag this type of activity but they are also very keen to details to make sure that they are not tagging the wrong person and this is also very subjective.

That is the main reason why mods can not banned them
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October 10, 2018, 03:44:11 PM
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selling merit is a violation because the rules about it are clear.

It is not a violation actually it is a prohibition to those who does not support it. As you can see most of the known sections where shitposters make a thread and spam it with their own accounts and toss merit to one of their accounts is a clear illegitimate way to rank up,  check reputation section you'll see tons of negged accounts because they're busted. 

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October 10, 2018, 08:01:50 PM
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selling merit is a violation because the rules about it are clear.

It is not a violation actually it is a prohibition to those who does not support it. As you can see most of the known sections where shitposters make a thread and spam it with their own accounts and toss merit to one of their accounts is a clear illegitimate way to rank up,  check reputation section you'll see tons of negged accounts because they're busted. 


Then he has to read the thread by theymos to understand how the merits and other things has been shared here. If yo hasn't to invest your fund and get the merits it take the negative trust only finally to the account.
So you need to clarify the doubts and learn the rules before you gonna buy the any here

 
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October 10, 2018, 08:08:23 PM
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DT tagging of accounts seems good enough to me for now, considering doing this effectively nulls the ability of an affected account to be used in a signature campaign for monetary gain. I don't think anyone believes that merit is not flawed, but it's mostly working for now, with a number of people keeping a close eye on merit transfer to ensure that the sales of merit on this forum are kept to a minimum. The consensus is that you can do whatever you want with your merit unless you're selling it.
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October 10, 2018, 11:18:04 PM
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I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Each of the members in the forum are free to do anything they want, whether they are abiding the rules or not in the forums. Now, selling accounts on bitcointalk or selling merits are against the rules and policy if you caught in the act. Then, the usually things happens if they caught, the buyers who bought that btt account will be issue negative trust(the account that has been sell), that's the things I new about it.
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October 11, 2018, 05:49:06 AM
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Selling of merit is not a good idea you should not sell merit to others because its unfair or the one who do their best post that they can just to earn that merit so for me you should not sell merit and the one that who should have this merit is the one who can post a helpful reply to the thread not the one who buys the merit. Even though you want to sell it just to earn you should not sell it.
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