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October 04, 2018, 05:24:41 PM
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I am not aware of atriz case because I am still somehow a newbie in the forum.

I participate in IOU and BQT campaigns, managed by Zapo and I think he is a good manager.
Zero spammers, payments in time.

I wish good luck to Zapo clearing up the problems he had in the past, as he is doing a nice job in the forum, as Loycev pointed out.

Thanks Loycev, for exposing the situation. This forum surprises me everyday.


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October 04, 2018, 06:46:07 PM
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Just wowed by the scammer ....

Another new account with same two faced fucker... Did u sell aTriz?

All those who apparently have a pecuniary interest in you are supporting you, no surprises.

I too had my suspicions that you are the same pimp when you refused me in your campaign, but then I guess some people are petty assholes.



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October 04, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
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I will swear on god, that this entire post will contain no lies

You know you have a problem when you need to say that.

If this forum really believes in second chances, then Zapo deserves one.

That would be his ~5th chance though, so - no.

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October 04, 2018, 09:33:07 PM
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That would be his ~5th chance though, so - no.
How 5?

I can remember only these:

- Lying about BitBlisscoin, and the paying deadley 7 ETH or whatever the amount was back.
- His whole involvement with Alia and her "gambling script".

This forum surprises me everyday.
You'll so get used to it and before you know it, you'll start guessing which accounts are controlled by QS and which aren't, believe me.  Roll Eyes

Zapo/aTriz, what were you thinking when trying to create a new identity here? Did you forget how bitcointalk works or?

People started suspecting you the moment you came up with 2 new high paying campaigns out of nowhere, just like how aTriz did. Even if you haven't shown your naivety or anything here through the Zapo account(yet  Huh), it is still not enough for people to give you another chance. Instead of asking for another chance, prove it, and managing 2 campaigns isn't enough if you think that's going to change anything. Just be careful with what you're playing with.

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October 04, 2018, 10:31:39 PM
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Since the account is already tagged and they're running two signature campaigns which I believe are self-escrowed, has anybody given a thought that they might just run away with the escrow money and still have nothing to lose? I mean they have shown the tendency to come back again with new accounts.


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October 04, 2018, 10:39:52 PM
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Since the account is already tagged and they're running two signature campaigns which I believe are self-escrowed, has anybody given a thought that they might just run away with the escrow money and still have nothing to lose? I mean they have shown the tendency to come back again with new accounts.

Living up to the motto in his personal text - "stay dangerous" ..

Might it not be out of the question to ask him kindly to put those funds into the hands of a trusted escrow?
Since he plans to be so honest and whatever from now on right? Like he says..
That would possibly be a nice show of good faith..
If they exist as you say..





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October 04, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
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On a related note, I've always been curious as to whether Aventhe is an alt of aTriz/Zapo.  It's been a lingering suspicion of mine based on communications I've had with both of them, though I don't have hard proof and there was never any reason to make an issue out of it.

It may not be out of the question to ask him kindly to put those funds into the hands of a trusted escrow?
I think that's a very good idea.  I'm not sure what to think about his trustworthiness at this point.  aTriz was always a very good campaign manager, and I got the sense that he was diligent and could be trusted with campaign funds--and then SHTF, and it's a valid point that an exit scam thing might not be out of the question.

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I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.


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October 04, 2018, 11:11:19 PM
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- Lying about BitBlisscoin, and the paying deadley 7 ETH or whatever the amount was back.
- His whole involvement with Alia and her "gambling script".

There was the episode where he "rented out" his account to some spammer. Also there was proof of aTriz account having been purchased a year or two ago. I'm sure there was more, I just can't remember everything now.

Even this latest debacle came to light only because LoyceV exposed it. 0.3 BTC loan without collateral LOL...

This "Ima be honest after I'm caught" routine is getting old.

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October 04, 2018, 11:24:14 PM
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There was the episode where he "rented out" his account to some spammer. Also there was proof of aTriz account having been purchased a year or two ago. I'm sure there was more, I just can't remember everything now.
I'm listening closely to your opinion here, believe me--not that it matters all that much what I think.  

I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently.  It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write.  That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined.

And the reason I questioned the Aventhe possibility is that the timing and writing style of the PMs I got were very similar, and both accounts were very active around the time I got those PMs.  Both became inactive seemingly (to me) at the same time.  Could be my paranoia, and I don't know if aTriz/Zapo would cop to Aventhe being his alt even if it were true.

I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
Yeah, good point.

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October 04, 2018, 11:30:47 PM
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I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.

I guess it was just smooth talking and luck..  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042702
http://archive.is/vny7w

Hi Bitcointalk, I'm looking for a loan with these terms,

1. Loan amount: 0.3 BTC
2. Reason for the loan: Personal
3. Repayment amount: 0.4 BTC
4. Repayment date (GMT timezone):2 months
5. Collateral:None
6. Bitcoin address:3PMpFPGnJjBy9hMDKjBXFTH8vqp8oc1FN3

As for trustworthy factors, I've paid out ~3 BTC in campaigns and held up to 2 BTC at once.

Thank you!

I found the public has access only to the following address where you held fund:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/17wW3y8HgcRACw6e8wjB5bkuc1CFJzvRQM
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/14cJEUeGm157ok88ouskfDGwbSmzf2Kgcr

Total 1.76BTC

This is  also a large amount, and I wonder how advertisers trust to you(a whole newbie without history) such amount.
So if you want borrow, I would advise you , ask your employer at least vouch for you.
Hi zazarb,

I didn't bother with changing the escrow address weekly, because of the wallet I use changes addresses everytime I send a TXID. For example, here is a TXID thats not from an address listed in the OP.

Quick update!

Was refilled by devs via https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/13900245d8b37c3b5177647e808b65eb2cd9bff69919d4380b9d8c5946c064ad

Sorry for the delay, Eddie was flying to Dubai for a meeting with some investors.

Payments will be made within an hour! Thanks for your patience.

I guess, a stroke of luck, a lot of planning and talking landed me this job. I would get my employer to vouch for me, but he isn't on Bitcointalk, and is quite busy with investor meetings regarding their ICO.

Thank you for your input!



Also - He was asking to borrow 0.3 BTC and repay 0.4 BTC..
That is a whole 33.333% interest! Quite high interest..
That's $650 in interest he is offering to pay.. Ouch..

It is somewhat the mark of a loan scammer to offer such high interest, so people are more greedy to fund the loan for them, put up with more risk for that profit, and the scammer isn't planning on paying back so they don't care what the interest is anyway.. Make the lenders rush to fill it, make them make hasty decisions..

Suspicious..

As for the 0.3 BTC loan I requested, I was actually going to pay that back, as too many people’s surprises.  

Why did you offer such high interest?
It might as well be a doubler..





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October 04, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
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Also - He was asking to borrow 0.3 BTC and repay 0.4 BTC..
That is a whole 33.333% interest! Quite high interest..
That's $650 in interest he is offering to pay.. Ouch..

It is somewhat the mark of a loan scammer to offer such high interest, so people are more greedy to fund the loan for them, put up with more risk for that profit, and the scammer isn't planning on paying back so they don't care what the interest is anyway.. Make the lenders rush to fill it, make them make hasty decisions..

Suspicious..
Stop spewing bullshit conspiracy theories. If mr. Atriz wanted to "scam", he would have done so as he had plenty of opportunities to do so with non-pocket change amounts.

Surprised given this thread.

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October 04, 2018, 11:53:38 PM
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I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently.  It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write.  That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined.

And the reason I questioned the Aventhe possibility is that the timing and writing style of the PMs I got were very similar, and both accounts were very active around the time I got those PMs.  Both became inactive seemingly (to me) at the same time.  Could be my paranoia, and I don't know if aTriz/Zapo would cop to Aventhe being his alt even if it were true.

I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
Yeah, good point.
I just glanced at aTriz's post history and for some reason, I have this theory that, 4 people, or at least 3 people have controlled that account. The initial owner had control over the account till 2014, then either someone else bought it or used it from April 2017, and few months later, the aTriz we know controlled the account(might be the same owner who controlled it in 2014), and then a random spammer who used it for a few days.

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October 05, 2018, 01:02:12 AM
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Another new account with same two faced fucker... Did u sell aTriz
No.

People started suspecting you the moment you came up with 2 new high paying campaigns out of nowhere, just like how aTriz did. Even if you haven't shown your naivety or anything here through the Zapo account(yet  Huh), it is still not enough for people to give you another chance. Instead of asking for another chance, prove it, and managing 2 campaigns isn't enough if you think that's going to change anything. Just be careful with what you're playing with.
My original plan was to land a couple clients, and then expose myself later on when I had a bunch of experience, and I did some good work for the community. This was earlier than expected, but what can you do.

Since the account is already tagged and they're running two signature campaigns which I believe are self-escrowed, has anybody given a thought that they might just run away with the escrow money and still have nothing to lose? I mean they have shown the tendency to come back again with new accounts.
I'm not exit scamming. I've never purposely scammed anyone, and all the issues from aTriz were from me being careless. I'll even pay out a little early today.

Living up to the motto in his personal text - "stay dangerous" ..
It's from a music album released a couple months back - Stay Dangerous By YG.

On a related note, I've always been curious as to whether Aventhe is an alt of aTriz/Zapo.  It's been a lingering suspicion of mine based on communications I've had with both of them, though I don't have hard proof and there was never any reason to make an issue out of it.
Don't know who Aventhe is, except on pm instance, where he asked me to check me for one of the BTC sig campaigns I was running on aTriz. So no, I'm not him.

I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
They know.

I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently.  It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write.  That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined.
I'm pretty sure my english isn't that bad now is it? I'm trying to learn how to touch type on a mechanical K70 keyboard, and before I was quite accustomed to my old Mac for typing. Probably this, but there's nothing else I can think of.

Also - He was asking to borrow 0.3 BTC and repay 0.4 BTC..
That is a whole 33.333% interest! Quite high interest..
That's $650 in interest he is offering to pay.. Ouch..

It is somewhat the mark of a loan scammer to offer such high interest, so people are more greedy to fund the loan for them, put up with more risk for that profit, and the scammer isn't planning on paying back so they don't care what the interest is anyway.. Make the lenders rush to fill it, make them make hasty decisions..

Suspicious..
Stop spewing bullshit conspiracy theories. If mr. Atriz wanted to "scam", he would have done so as he had plenty of opportunities to do so with non-pocket change amounts.

Surprised given this thread.
Thank you Lauda.

The higher interest offered was half not knowing how high-interest rates are on bitcointalk, and half me sort of desperate. I've held probably ~2 BTC of escrow funds at once and never ran, so I won't be running with any funds here.

I just checked the PMs I got from aTriz back in 2017, and the English is definitely different than what I've seen him write recently.  It was nearly perfect in the PMs, whereas currently there are mistakes that he makes that are not consistent with what he used to write.  That's just my opinion on it, and one could of course start making mistakes on purpose if one were so inclined.

And the reason I questioned the Aventhe possibility is that the timing and writing style of the PMs I got were very similar, and both accounts were very active around the time I got those PMs.  Both became inactive seemingly (to me) at the same time.  Could be my paranoia, and I don't know if aTriz/Zapo would cop to Aventhe being his alt even if it were true.

I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
Yeah, good point.
I just glanced at aTriz's post history and for some reason, I have this theory that, 4 people, or at least 3 people have controlled that account. The initial owner had control over the account till 2014, then either someone else bought it or used it from April 2017, and few months later, the aTriz we know controlled the account(might be the same owner who controlled it in 2014), and then a random spammer who used it for a few days.
Here's the timeline

Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.
I was in possession of the account, all the way until a couple weeks back, in which someone sort of wanted to trial the account for a week, and then I got it back. If you check my posts, there was a quite well made post addressing a scam accusation. Down below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4765774.msg43073635#msg43073635

TLDR - Bought account when account buying was fine, and then lended out a couple months back for a week, still have it. Only 3 people have had access to aTriz.

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October 05, 2018, 01:12:48 AM
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I'm not exit scamming. I've never purposely scammed anyone, and all the issues from aTriz were from me being careless.


Please explain how exactly you "accidentally" scam someone. If someone looses money because of your mistake, that is not accidentally scamming someone, it is either you reimburse whoever lost money because of you, or you are explicitly intentionally scamming someone. Period.

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October 05, 2018, 01:21:24 AM
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Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.

That makes about as little sense as all the other excuses we've heard from the 2015-2018 aTriz (for lack of a better definition) so there is good chance that this is indeed the same person.

Here is what you could do: stop lying, get a job IRL, repay the loans or whatever you owe to whomever, stop fucking around with alts, and stay away from shady deals, or any financial responsibility for that matter (use an escrow if you must).

Here is what you will do: same as usual.

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October 05, 2018, 01:24:23 AM
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Late 2015- I talked to the original owner, and we made a deal where I would use his account to learn about BTC, and just grow with the community.

That makes about as little sense as all the other excuses we've heard from the 2015-2018 aTriz (for lack of a better definition) so there is good chance that this is indeed the same person.

Here is what you could do: stop lying, get a job IRL, repay the loans or whatever you owe to whomever, stop fucking around with alts, and stay away from shady deals, or any financial responsibility or that matter (use an escrow if you must).

Here is what you will do: same as usual.
How else was I able to sign 2014-2013 private keys in 2017?

I'm not lying. I would rebuttal the other arguments but they are too personal. If you want a definite answer for these I'd suggest PMing me.

Edit - The only "loan" on the forum here is to snakey. And I'm not paying him the 10 eth or so, after I found out he was pinkman123345. So he backstabbed me and he wants me to pay him a couple grand? Bullshit.

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October 05, 2018, 03:20:29 AM
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Another new account with same two faced fucker... Did u sell aTriz
No.

So, what do you plan on doing to your old account now that your identity is revealed as aTriz? Do you still intend on using it and regain the reputation wasted back then? or you'll just lock it up on your pocket?

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October 05, 2018, 04:31:44 AM
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I think just creating this topic by Zapo himself is a brave step to confront his critics, either good or bad. He laid out his true self and it's up to you on how you perceive him as a user here. And with that being said, in my opinion there's no need to lock up this account in his pocket. Users can always check the trust of that person and gauge for himself if he wants to deal with this person or not.

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October 05, 2018, 07:25:31 AM
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I would be interested to know if you disclosed this information to the teams behind BQT and IOU before beginning work as their campaign manager.
They know.
My assumption was that Zapo got those campaigns because of the connections he has as aTriz. That means the team didn't consider him to be a Newbie from the start.

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