Petition for new mods who will ban users who troll and harass sites

[BetKing Support]

There are a couple of users in this forum who constantly abuse gambling site owners and make the forum of less value to players.

game-protect and jolly good being the two worse offenders.

It's at the point where even users who are just looking to keep up with news and promotions have to wade through tonnes of FUD posts by these users to find anything useful and a lot of sites have even stopped using the forum because of these trolls. Stake and Primedice have their own forum now as do some other sites.

Bitcointalk used to be the best community for Bitcoin gambling back when we first started in 2013 and through to 2016. It's a shame to see it.

I've spoke with many site owners and they all have a similar story, that game-protect has private messaged them threatening to report them to authorities unless they send him Bitcoin.
Or he threatens them with scam reports on his website if they don't send him Bitcoin.

I've had Jolly Good and Game Protect post multiple times per day for 3 months or more now just spreading lies about BetKing and me here.
I don't care for the personal attacks but it isn't good when we are trying to reward loyal players or answer support questions and these people post nonsense to bury our replies.

I have reported both them multiple times per week for months. I've private messaged the mods. I even messaged Theymos. I have had 0 reply. They have clearly violated forum rules and my thread local rules.
I even had to make a new self moderated thread so that they couldn't post hundreds of FUD posts in it. They still do post and I have to delete daily.

Here's what the gambling section looks like now with Jolly Goods posts, top 4 posts (one extra since i took screenshot) just spreading FUD and Lies about me and BetKing.



Do you think it's about time the gambling section got cleaned up and had these posters and the like banned?
I can see more an more sites leaving Bitcointalk as their main means of communicating with players and moving to their own forums or Telegram groups if something is not done asap.

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[RHavar]

I think game-protect should clearly be banned, he just spews a ridiculous amount of bullshit to drum up his crappy site that does nothing other than ask people to sign up with his referral links. Almost all his posts are just shilling it, or directly linking to it.

While I don't necessarily agree with, I don't think JollyGood should be banned though. Definitely having and bumping 4 different threads complaining about betking though shouldn't be allowed, and they should be merged or 3 of them locked or something.


I agree with your general point though, the quality of the forum is really going to shit. Partly due to unchecked spamming by people like game-protect, and partly by the huge amount of low-quality posts people are (literally!) paid to make as part of their sig/avatar campaigns.

[game-protect]

I've spoke with many site owners and they all have a similar story, that game-protect has private messaged them threatening to report them to authorities unless they send him Bitcoin.
Or he threatens them with scam reports on his website if they don't send him Bitcoin.

Please publicise those pms?

Why do these site owners not open Scam Accusations with proof like it is very common here on bitcointalk?

Your fraud scheme is crushed and this totally independent of whether or not bitcointalk will ban me!  

What's your next threat?  

What was my previous threat?

I've had Jolly Good and Game Protect post multiple times per day for 3 months or more now just spreading lies about BetKing and me here.

Please quote the lies I spread about BetKing?

A good poker player knows when he has lost, you are obviously not one of them!

[Theb]

Although No Trolling is included in the list of forum rules I still haven't seen any member who got banned just by purely trolling in the forum. All the banned accounts I am seeing are either from copy and pasting as well as spamming. I still see their names posting in the usual sections where they often can be found and they still troll in these sections. Sad to say that the chances of game-protect being banned due to trolling (harassing hasn't been proved yet) is low.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I think it’s difficult to prove what’s happened in these scenarios. I mean BetKing, you’re obviously a fully trustworthy, legit site as you’ve been operating for some time with no issues. Some sites will be scammy though so how do we know if users start posting here saying site X is a scam that they’re not being honest?

[Kemarit]

I don't think that mods will simply ban those two for trolling, IMHO, just grow some thick skin and learn not to get upset. If you're not scamming some players then you can just ignore them, (Ignore user options) problem solved.

[audaciousbeing]

You have made some valid submissions and I understand the amount of frustration you had to endure in dealing with all of these "attacks" against you and your business and truth be told, it could be draining having to defend and repeat all over the place. If you want think want to rely on the moderators, it could be effective but don't forget that another account could spring up to continue the same attack.

My suggestion the best is to ignore and respond to only valid ones. If you concentrate on stopping or removing them, you might not get any headway in that which could drain you the more. The people on the forum also know how to discern valid concerns and that of a troll which does not attract any value.

[Patatas]

Don't make it about the forum when it's clearly about you and JollyGood lol I don't really care what the issue is but he has all the rights to express his views and as far as I know, he doesn't look like a troll. Maybe you should rather sort it out with him and end it for once?

Hardly there are 5-10 sites which run businesses legitly, rest of them look for ways to scam users and hence harassing them to ask for proofs or to pay people who they have ripped off is not bad. Technically, it's not harassing but asking proofs/conclusions on the issues raised.

[Initscri]

I think there's clear blatant trust abuse by Game-Protect which IMO deserves a ban (or at-least removal of trust privileges). Sending the same copy/pasted trust over and over again is clear abuse.

Probably advisable to only permit 1 topic complaining about about a site per category. Producing multiple threads is just spamming up the forum.

While I don't agree w/ completely banning users, I would like to see a bit more moderation on the gambling section. It's far too easy to create an alt to bash your adversaries for financial gain.

[eternalgloom]

The gambling section could definitely use more moderators, just to get rid of the general spam.
I'd be very careful though as to not remove any obvious fake negative feedback. If you start removing that, we would go onto a very slippery slope, maybe ending up with sites taking advantage of it to exit scam.

If Game-Protect really does send threatening pm's, I would definitely consider that to be an offense for which he should get banned.
Maybe you should just /ignore him in the meantime and make a report thread about him on the Meta boards. 

[game-protect]

I don't think that mods will simply ban those two for trolling, IMHO, just grow some thick skin and learn not to get upset. If you're not scamming some players then you can just ignore them, (Ignore user options) problem solved.

He scammed his investors in the height of $ millions and he also scammed his affiliates!

Source: https://game-protect.com/betking-scam/

Dean Nolan is a disgrace for the online gambling community! However, he did it dumb and will be held liable!

The interesting point will be when his separate fantasy dream world will meet the real world.

[stomachgrowls]

The gambling section could definitely use more moderators, just to get rid of the general spam.
I'd be very careful though as to not remove any obvious fake negative feedback. If you start removing that, we would go onto a very slippery slope, maybe ending up with sites taking advantage of it to exit scam.

If Game-Protect really does send threatening pm's, I would definitely consider that to be an offense for which he should get banned.
Maybe you should just /ignore him in the meantime and make a report thread about him on the Meta boards. 

Each claims should have sufficient proof.Its being said that OP is being threatened thru PM's then posting up some images will let everyone know on whats happening and will have a particular response from game-protect itself and not to be biased but these guys arent trolls because people would just normally act if they would saw a thing that looks suspicious.

[BetKing Support]

Notice his source is his own writing on his own shady affiliate website that has so many errors in it it's ridiculous.

Remember, he never bought in to the ICO.
All the token holders are allowed to join our private telegram group. We have been discussing major changes to BetKing in there and on email constantly over the past few days.
No one is unhappy or thinking I have scammed them.
Unfortunately they don't really use the forums, why would they?

There are a couple who could confirm what I'm saying but they rarely use the forum.

Game-protect is an extortionist, a scammer, a troll and paid by other sites to spread shit about other sites. There are site owners who could show proof of this, they all messaged me saying that's what happened.

This is not about me "not having thick skin". As I said, I couldn't give a shit if he posts crap about me that is not true. Doesn't do anything to me.
But he might potentially be harming peoples business, that other people invest in, with his lies and FUD. See the problem?

But I guess nothing will be done. If more people reported him and others,  and actively pressured the mods to clean up the forum then this place would be better.
If it's not done sites will just move off of bitcointalk, they already have started, and players who remain here will suffer.

[game-protect]

Notice his source is his own writing on his own shady affiliate website that has so many errors in it it's ridiculous.

No, I use the publicly available blatant lies on your scam website as source:

https://imgur.com/a/nt6HUjC

The token value is calculated as:

I + (P /100,000,000)

Where I is the initial token price after the IC0, $0.09286 and P is the total site profit from all games and currencies at the current exchange rate in $.

Remember, he never bought in to the ICO.

To prove that someone killed someone does not require that he killed myself!

Game-protect is an extortionist, a scammer, a troll and paid by other sites to spread shit about other sites. There are site owners who could show proof of this, they all messaged me saying that's what happened.

Why do you not open Scam Accusations like it is very common here on bitcointalk? Because you have no proof of your blatant lies?

First you claimed that you have a similar story, that game-protect has private messaged you threatening to report you to authorities unless you send me Bitcoin. But after my authorization to publicise those pms you are not able to deliver?

After not able to deliver proof of your claim, you revise your claim that I have threatened only other site owners and not you?

This is not about me "not having thick skin". As I said, I couldn't give a shit if he posts crap about me that is not true. Doesn't do anything to me.
But he might potentially be harming peoples business, that other people invest in, with his lies and FUD. See the problem?

Yes, I can see the problem, calling out criminals like you will harm their business!

If it's not done sites will just move off of bitcointalk, they already have started, and players who remain here will suffer.

How exactly will the bitcointalk community suffer if scammers like you move off?

[MICRO]

Although i am all for the free speech on this forum i do think some of the members go overboard quite often.

Gameprotect is here just to promote his site and he does that with links to his site in almost every postg he makes.

[s0lidus]

Everyone on this forum has the right to post as long as they respect the forum rules. If you report them and nothing happens, it means that they haven't crossed the forum's red line, which should be respected whether you agree with someone or not.

Just report them and if nothing happens: use the ignore option, the more attention you give 'em the more they'll go on.

[BetKing Support]

Everyone on this forum has the right to post as long as they respect the forum rules. If you report them and nothing happens, it means that they haven't crossed the forum's red line, which should be respected whether you agree with someone or not.

Just report them and if nothing happens: use the ignore option, the more attention you give 'em the more they'll go on.

I've have reported them for breaking actual forum rules. Mods done nothing

[game-protect]

Everyone on this forum has the right to post as long as they respect the forum rules. If you report them and nothing happens, it means that they haven't crossed the forum's red line, which should be respected whether you agree with someone or not.

Just report them and if nothing happens: use the ignore option, the more attention you give 'em the more they'll go on.

I've have reported them for breaking actual forum rules. Mods done nothing

To ask you when the affiliate statistic of lifetime referred players will be re-installed is breaking actual forum rules or what?

When will be the affiliate statistic of lifetime referred players available again?

Lying about your victims and committing the criminal offense of defamation is not breaking actual forum rules?

You were banned from the affiliate program for branding BetKing as a scam and promoting other scams and your terrible forum behavior. Not someone any site wants to be affiliated with.

[Patatas]

Everyone on this forum has the right to post as long as they respect the forum rules. If you report them and nothing happens, it means that they haven't crossed the forum's red line, which should be respected whether you agree with someone or not.

Just report them and if nothing happens: use the ignore option, the more attention you give 'em the more they'll go on.

I've have reported them for breaking actual forum rules. Mods done nothing

In that case, you could have opened a case in Meta and asked the community's views on the reported post? This does wonders and helps you find out if the post is actually against the forum's rules. 99.9% of the time if the report is unhandled, it's mostly the mods missed it otherwise it's just a bad report.

[Initscri]

I think it's funny how after Game-Protect got banned from BetKing's affiliate program, he immediately launches a "scam" campaign against them, creating pages and trying to defame them.

You don't go from being an "affiliate" to a critic without shady tactics. He then sends negative rep to users telling them they should have checked the signature campaign they were working with and telling them they are participating in illegal actions. By that definition, he was doing the same thing. He's a hypocrite.

You're either paying Game-Protect through affiliate commissions, or you're immediately his enemy. It's just a shady business practice.
Even going as far as to change Wikipedia pages: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilotto

Everyone on this forum has the right to post as long as they respect the forum rules. If you report them and nothing happens, it means that they haven't crossed the forum's red line, which should be respected whether you agree with someone or not.

Just report them and if nothing happens: use the ignore option, the more attention you give 'em the more they'll go on.

Let's face it, the guy has inexcusable tactics. He recently just shamefully jumped into a signature campaign I was accepted into posting the following targeting me simply because I've questioned him and his website on it's legitimacy: http://archive.is/o8qQb

That's not positive behaviour.

If trust abuse isn't illegal according to site guidelines, then he may not be breaking any rules. But he's definitely not a positive member in the BitcoinTalk community; and I think most would agree with that based off his trust score.