Transfer status Local

[Tonybeatz330]

Hello, im a crypto newb sorry..Well i made a transfer as i allways do and noticed its been taking a while..now my status is showing as Local..have i been robbed?  Can somebody help me out w some info..Thank you  

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[Tonybeatz330]

Well the funds went from coinbase to electrum to a gaming website.. I did some research and it told me that my transaction is signed and confirmed but not broadcasted...so i went to my wallet and pushed the broadcast button and still nothing is moving it seems...but whats strange is that i sent the coin in the same fashion as i allways do but now for some reason my status is local

[ABCbits]

Well the funds went from coinbase to electrum to a gaming website.. I did some research and it told me that my transaction is signed and confirmed but not broadcasted...so i went to my wallet and pushed the broadcast button and still nothing is moving it seems...but whats strange is that i sent the coin in the same fashion as i allways do but now for some reason my status is local

So basically you send your Bitcoin from Electrum to a gaming website. But there's no way your transaction is confirmed (included in blocks) if it's not broadcasted.

Have you checked your network status (circle on right bottom of Electrum), if it's not green, that's the reason. You also could broadcast your transaction manually with 3rd party TX broadcaster.

[mocacinno]

If i remember correcty (i haven't used electrum in a couple of months), if your fee is to low or if there is an other technical problem with the transaction you created, electrum actually shows you the error message of the node you were trying to use to broadcast your transaction, so i doubt it's a fee problem... (not sure tough).

I'm thinking in the same direction as ETFbitcoin, are you sure you are connected to an electrum server?
You can try to close electrum and restart it, or click the button in the right hand corner and manually change servers untill you find one that's working for you (like ETFbitcoin already said: the indicator in the right hand corner should be green).

Like ETFbitcoin already said: you can always "save" your transaction locally instead of broadcasting it (you already figured out how to re-broadcast a transaction, IIRC, the save button can be found in the exact same menu you used to rebroadcast), then open the locally saved transaction using a text editor , copy the hex transaction (minus the quotes) and use an online tool to broadcast it (if you use google, you can find at least 5 free online tools to rebroadcast, but if you really don't find one, you can always PM the signed tx to me and i'll broadcast it from my node)... It sounds hard to do, but it's actually pretty easy, you just need a text editor and internet access.

[Tonybeatz330]

Well i Pushed the Broadcast button and got an error message telling me that my transaction is rejected by the network..i guess the node rejected me whatever the hell that means...does this mean my coins are stuck...coins wont just dissapear will they?  and finally where and when will my coins final destination be?  i really hope these coins find there way back into my wallet...and again my status still shows as LOCAL


Im fukin  confused..anybody got any good news for me?

[mocacinno]

Well i Pushed the Broadcast button and got an error message telling me that my transaction is rejected by the network..i guess the node rejected me whatever the hell that means...does this mean my coins are stuck...coins wont just dissapear will they?  and finally where and when will my coins final destination be?  i really hope these coins find there way back into my wallet...and again my status still shows as LOCAL


Im fukin  confused..anybody got any good news for me?

Well... If you got a message saying the node rejected your transaction, it probably IS a fee problem (there could be other problems to, but a fee related problem is the most common one).  Without actually seeing the transaction, there is no way to pinpoint the exact problem with the transaction.

Good news, sure there's some good news :
In a non-technical way, it means that the coins never actually left your wallet.

In a technical way, it means that the unspent outputs funding the addresses managed by your wallet were used as input for a new transaction, but since that transaction wasn't succesfully broadcasted, the transaction spending the unspent outputs is not in the mempool of any of the nodes, so as far as the network's concerned: nothing really happened, the transaction sending the funds simply doesn't "exist" (at least from the network's point of view).
This statement only remains true as long as you don't succeed in broadcasting the transaction... If you broadcast it even once, the above statement becomes untrue!

The only "problem" is that electrum actually keeps the unbroadcasted transaction stored in a local file on your computer. As long as electrum has this transaction in this local file, you'll probably not be able to re-spend the funds...

I haven't used electrum in a while, so i don't know if there is a way to make electrum "forget" the transaction that's currently stuck... You can always restore your wallet from seed, but that might be a drastic measure since you'll lose all metadata you added (for example, the comments you added to a transaction or the names you attached to addresses).

[Tonybeatz330]

and to answer your question in not seeing any green light but im using electrum from my phone and i dont think i ever see that light actually but not sure...also i cant find a way to change servers on my phone either

[Tonybeatz330]

is it the down scroll tab that lights up green?  because that tab is grey right now...also i sent 2 payments to different locations after running into this problens and they both confirmed rather quickly so im thinking i must be connected to the server...will this problem sort its self out?  or will i have to do some trouble shooting..crappy im computer illiterate

[Tonybeatz330]

Well i Pushed the Broadcast button and got an error message telling me that my transaction is rejected by the network..i guess the node rejected me whatever the hell that means...does this mean my coins are stuck...coins wont just dissapear will they?  and finally where and when will my coins final destination be?  i really hope these coins find there way back into my wallet...and again my status still shows as LOCAL


Im fukin  confused..anybody got any good news for me?

Well... If you got a message saying the node rejected your transaction, it probably IS a fee problem (there could be other problems to, but a fee related problem is the most common one).  Without actually seeing the transaction, there is no way to pinpoint the exact problem with the transaction.

Good news, sure there's some good news :
In a non-technical way, it means that the coins never actually left your wallet.

In a technical way, it means that the unspent outputs funding the addresses managed by your wallet were used as input for a new transaction, but since that transaction wasn't succesfully broadcasted, the transaction spending the unspent outputs is not in the mempool of any of the nodes, so as far as the network's concerned: nothing really happened, the transaction sending the funds simply doesn't "exist" (at least from the network's point of view).
This statement only remains true as long as you don't succeed in broadcasting the transaction... If you broadcast it even once, the above statement becomes untrue!




The only "problem" is that electrum actually keeps the unbroadcasted transaction stored in a local file on your computer. As long as electrum has this transaction in this local file, you'll probably not be able to re-spend the funds...

I haven't used electrum in a while, so i don't know if there is a way to make electrum "forget" the transaction that's currently stuck... You can always restore your wallet from seed, but that might be a drastic measure since you'll lose all metadata you added (for example, the comments you added to a transaction or the names you attached to addresses).

what do you mean by respend the funds?   also if its most likely a fee problem does that mean i should just sit and wait it out?  will the locally stored funds ever start moving down the blockchain on there own?  im computer illiterate so if i can avoid any trouble shooting that would be awesome



thanks so much for the replies by the way guys

[HCP]

Aside from "transaction rejected"... Does the error message say anything else?

Usually, it will have an error code/number and a somewhat cryptic message. For example, "66-insufficent priority"

It's been a while since I had issues with the Android version of Electrum, so I'm not 100% that it shows the full error message... However, if it does, knowing this number and message will greatly assist with pinpointing the root cause of your problem.

Screenshot maybe?

[Tonybeatz330]

Aside from "transaction rejected"... Does the error message say anything else?

Usually, it will have an error code/number and a somewhat cryptic message. For example, "66-insufficent priority"

It's been a while since I had issues with the Android version of Electrum, so I'm not 100% that it shows the full error message... However, if it does, knowing this number and message will greatly assist with pinpointing the root cause of your problem.

Screenshot maybe?

If you are using Bitcoin/similar cryptocurrency and use non-centralized wallet, then i think you're not robbed.
Most likely your wallet's default fee is too low which make confirmation takes a while. All you need to do is wait until the transaction is confirmed.

p.s. please give us more information such as wallet that you use and mentioned transaction ID.

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n


My coins are stuck i think...i think...i read it can take 4 or 5 days to find there way back...at least i hope thats the issue...status still showing as local and network wont let me broadcast. .due to network rules...the error. Message also says that too..Thanks guys

[pooya87]

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n

this error is telling you that the amount you are trying to send is too small.
there is a limit for the amount of bitcoin that you can send, i don't know how much it is now since it has changed multiple times but i believe it is somewhere around 5000 satoshi and when you send an amount smaller than that it will be rejected.

[Abdussamad]

On the history tab right click on the local transaction where it says local and choose remove. Then go to tools > preferences > fiat tab and set the base unit to btc. Now attempt to craft a new transaction via the send tab. This time understand that you are using bitcoin as your unit and not mbtc. Your transaction was previously rejected because you were confusing bitcoin with mbtc. 1 mbtc = 1/1000th of a bitcoin.

[bob123]

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n

This tells you that it got rejected by the network due to your TX being dust.

How much are you trying to send ? It seems like it is just a fraction of 0.01$.

Depending on the specific amount you want to send, you'll either have to wait until the fees are at its lowest (~ 1 sat/B) or you need to use more inputs in order to create a bigger transaction (worth more than fees + minimum amount).

[Tonybeatz330]

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n

This tells you that it got rejected by the network due to your TX being dust.

How much are you trying to send ? It seems like it is just a fraction of 0.01$.

Depending on the specific amount you want to send, you'll either have to wait until the fees are at its lowest (~ 1 sat/B) or you need to use more inputs in order to create a bigger transaction (worth more than fees + minimum amount).

No dude i sent.  51mbtc

[Tonybeatz330]

On the history tab right click on the local transaction where it says local and choose remove. Then go to tools > preferences > fiat tab and set the base unit to btc. Now attempt to craft a new transaction via the send tab. This time understand that you are using bitcoin as your unit and not mbtc. Your transaction was previously rejected because you were confusing bitcoin with mbtc. 1 mbtc = 1/1000th of a bitcoin.

Thank for the advice man but im using an android version of electrum..i lost my seed so i dont think i could connect to a pc...i guess my 51mbtc are n64 dust in the wind..bro this really sucks..why did this hapoen in the first. Place..i sent mbtc as i normally do..people are telling me i sent to small of an amount...ive sent. Multiple times since and all has been ok...is there anything i can do from my android to fix it?
Thank you

[Tonybeatz330]

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n

this error is telling you that the amount you are trying to send is too small.
there is a limit for the amount of bitcoin that you can send, i don't know how much it is now since it has changed multiple times but i believe it is somewhere around 5000 satoshi and when you send an amount smaller than that it will be rejected.

I sent 51mbtc.  Its stored locally now apparantly

[pooya87]

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n

this error is telling you that the amount you are trying to send is too small.
there is a limit for the amount of bitcoin that you can send, i don't know how much it is now since it has changed multiple times but i believe it is somewhere around 5000 satoshi and when you send an amount smaller than that it will be rejected.

I sent 51mbtc.  Its stored locally now apparantly

are you sure it is not "bits"? 51 bits means 5100 satoshi which is lower than the dust limit hence the rejection.
if it doesn't violate your privacy can you post the raw transaction here? you should be able to export the transaction from your android wallet. it will be a long hexadecimal string starting with 01000000 (it can be 02000000 too but Electrum uses version 1 transactions).

if not answer this:
how many new outputs are you creating? (in other words are you paying to 1 address or multiple). and how much you are paying to that 1 or if more to each address?
if it is just one, the only thing that i can think of is that Electrum is making a change address for you and pays the remainder but it is small so it is rejected by the network. which means it is a bug because the wallet doesn't let you create dust output in first place.

[Tonybeatz330]

Error message. Says.    rejected by network rules \n\n64:dust\n

this error is telling you that the amount you are trying to send is too small.
there is a limit for the amount of bitcoin that you can send, i don't know how much it is now since it has changed multiple times but i believe it is somewhere around 5000 satoshi and when you send an amount smaller than that it will be rejected.

I sent 51mbtc.  Its stored locally now apparantly

are you sure it is not "bits"? 51 bits means 5100 satoshi which is lower than the dust limit hence the rejection.
if it doesn't violate your privacy can you post the raw transaction here? you should be able to export the transaction from your android wallet. it will be a long hexadecimal string starting with 01000000 (it can be 02000000 too but Electrum uses version 1 transactions).

if not answer this:
how many new outputs are you creating? (in other words are you paying to 1 address or multiple). and how much you are paying to that 1 or if more to each address?
if it is just one, the only thing that i can think of is that Electrum is making a change address for you and pays the remainder but it is small so it is rejected by the network. which means it is a bug because the wallet doesn't let you create dust output in first place.

I only sent to one address as i normally do in mbtc. Form...51mbtc still stored locally...ive tried over and over to broadcast. But get the same error message....a bug?  Strange..  If it wasent for bad luck id have no luck at all

Thank guys