Is it possible to reach a high rank nowadays?

[Bit-Genius]

After signing up to this forum only today i have a few comments to make regarding the ranking system. I have been using crypto for a long period of time and have often used bitcointalk and read links from here but just never bothered to make an account because i didn't see any reason to as i could already read anything i wanted on here without having one. Bitcointalk is the most well known,active and best source of information regarding a variety of crypto currencies and the crypto scene in general but as ranks go, as the title suggests is it possible for people to rank up on here still? If i was to have signed up to here a couple of years ago i could easily have progressed through the ranks but with the strict rules imposed by the regime in charge i think it is virtually impossible to pass the rank of jr member. To gain enough merit without being a well known or already established user of the forum would take such a considerable effort that any user would also need a stroke a pure luck to even reach member rank now. The chances of being merited even a few times are very small let alone gaining hundreds of merits. Luckily i do not need a high rank for what i chose to use Bitcointalk for so it would mean nothing other than being a status symbol. If you are already of a high ranked position then most likely you like the recent stricter rules as you don't need to jump through the hoops yourself to claim merit and be able to rank up anymore, but when i look through the profiles of most of the higher ranked members i doubt more than a handful of them would be able to progress past the rank of Jr member themselves with the current framework were they not already ranked up. I think Bitcointalk has a responsibility as the largest forum of it's kind to the crypto-users of the world to provide a fair, open, informative and balanced platform for everyone. Although the user base has grown at an incredible speed, hopefully bitcointalk can be adapted to the new climate and continue being there for the community as it was originally intended. Hopefully there will be some loosening of these rules or an entirely new system implemented sometime in the near future so new users are able to participate in all that this great forum has to offer. Well that's my 5 cents worth, thanks for reading.

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[Cosette]

Yes it still possible, there's couple members that already got full member or even senior member from low rank. Try surf this meta section and find thread about people that already rank up. One that i know is DdmrDdmr who already earn more than 1k merit and he can wait until the time come to make him become legendary and looks like he start from newbie or jr.member(?).

[Bit-Genius]

Yes it still possible, there's couple members that already got full member or even senior member from low rank. Try surf this meta section and find thread about people that already rank up. One that i know is DdmrDdmr who already earn more than 1k merit and he can wait until the time come to make him become legendary and looks like he start from newbie or jr.member(?).

That person has done exceptionally well. Good spotting, i just looked through that users profile a little bit and the user is very active i see. So this proves it is possible but i think it is a rare circumstance seeing people like that and i would be willing to state that there are probably less than a handful of users that are able to do this. As a community based forum don't you think the opportunity should be much more widespread rather than just a few users out of thousands able to gain rank? Interesting that some are able to do this still though, thanks for the information.

[S_Therapist]

Lots of people who have already ranked up can be shitposters and that's why the new system is. We need to stop people ranking up with shitposting.
It's possible and lots of member already did. You should check this thread to know who has ranked up after merit system implementation- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4839318.0

One that i know is DdmrDdmr who already earn more than 1k merit

LoyceV has also achieved 1069 merits till now.

[mk4]

The chances of being merited even a few times are very small let alone gaining hundreds of merits.

Common misconception. Your chances of being merited is just small if you don't deserve to be given merit in the first place. It's like being a new bottom-level employee in a company that doesn't know crap but still complains why you're not getting a raise or a promotion.

[xha-256]

Yes, and for me I just have to wait until my activity reach on some required numbers to become jr member or member rank.

You should at least make an effort, not just making an article like posts with quantity > quality  but a well written post/s that may contribute to someone or to the forum itself. Of course, not just copy pasting coz you will be banned.

And my next goal is to reach the required number of actvity/merits to become full member. It might take some time though but I have to try

[Bit-Genius]

The chances of being merited even a few times are very small let alone gaining hundreds of merits.

Common misconception. Your chances of being merited is just small if you don't deserve to be given merit in the first place. It's like being a new bottom-level employee in a company that doesn't know crap but still complains why you're not getting a raise or a promotion.

that's why i wouldn't work for a company where i "didn't know crap" let alone complain but i don't see how your comparison is actually relevant at all in this scenario either? The chances are small whichever way you look at it, i have since starting this thread gone through a large volume of merited users and 99% of them are not posting anything special or greatly assisting the forum they are merely just posting in the correct place that users that have a lot of merit to give frequent. It doesn't seem balanced at all and i work as an analyst for a job in the banking sector so i am used to reviewing and sorting through data such as this. I think that it will be extremely hard for the majority of people to rank up here and in general it is highly probable that this forum will suffer as a consequence of that. I have a question for you also, do you not think that If bitcointalk refuses to adapt to this increased userbase than it's  ability to survive against competitors and continue to be the favored place for crypto discussion will continue for very long?

[eddie13]

Stop posting textblocks. Break up your sentences. Capitalize your I's.
A banking sector analyst should be smarter than that.. You know English well, you are just being lazy..
Post intelligent responses, engage in discussion, clean up your grammar to a readable format, and you will get your merits..

Why do you care so much about rank now, when you have observed for years that it was easy?
Are you just interested in discussing the forum "suffering consequences"?

[Bit-Genius]

Stop posting textblocks. Break up your sentences. Capitalize your I's.
A banking sector analyst should be smarter than that..

Why do you care so much about rank now, when you have observed for years that it was easy?
Are you just interested in discussing the forum "suffering consequences"?

Sorry if you dislike my grammar i am french so although my english is good it is still not perfect as it is my 2nd language but like all things it is a work in progress.  I don't care about my own personal rank at all because i can do everything i need to do on this forum being a newbie but i found it an interesting point of discussion and wanted to see some others views on it regarding some of my thoughts. Thanks for you input though, i'm always up for some english lessons!

[bones261]

I have a question for you also, do you not think that If bitcointalk refuses to adapt to this increased userbase than it's  ability to survive against competitors and continue to be the favored place for crypto discussion will continue for very long?

As far as I know, Bitcointalk is run as not-for-profit. Also, as far as I know, it has enough funds to keep running for quite sometime, even if revenue from donations and advertising stop completely. Also, since this forum happens to contain many important posts that are important to Bitcoin's history, (i.e Satosi's posts) I am certain some form of it will survive in archival form.

[TIDOVEE]

Yes , it is possible for people to reach high ranks.
The thing is, it is now more difficult than before,  the number of post you will have to make over a certain time is now increased. So, one has to take more time to rank up. In fact before one can add a rank now, it is really taking time.

[TMAN]

After signing up to this forum only today

then why the fuck do you care about merits? if I were knew I would be more concerned about rules and what really goes on here.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

One that i know is DdmrDdmr

Yep.  If I recall correctly, he's pretty bright with math and whatnot and has done some pretty impressive analysis with merit data--so he's earned those merits.  Other relative noobs have earned them by doing good work busting scammers, merit abusers, or ICO shenanigans and some of them don't even speak English exceptionally well but their posts are very helpful.

But most newbies?  Nah.  Most are content just posting crap in the spam mega threads that no one will ever see.  When you look at most posts (in any thread, you can just pick one at random) in a section like Bitcoin Discussion, there's nothing worth your time.  That's why you always see lots of Jr. Members there with 100s of posts and no merits, or you see higher ranked members who haven't earned any merits.  I'd say 99% of them don't stand a chance of ranking up.

Sorry if you dislike my grammar i am french

It's OK that you're French, but he's very right about the grammar and the huge wall of text you posted.  The members I wrote about above generally write not only posts with shit for content, but sloppily-written ones at that.  Look at the people with the highest earned merits and you'll see that they tend to put a lot of thought and effort into what they write.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

If you are already of a high ranked position then most likely you like the recent stricter rules as you don't need to jump through the hoops yourself to claim merit and be able to rank up anymore, but when i look through the profiles of most of the higher ranked members i doubt more than a handful of them would be able to progress past the rank of Jr member themselves with the current framework were they not already ranked up.

Those higher ranked people who wouldn’t have been able to rank up nowadays because they are hardly earning any merit, won’t be getting into the best paying campaigns. And vice versa: when I joined my current campaign (which requires a certain amount of earned merit to join) I saw higher ranks than mine applying but not getting in.

In 90%+ of the cases, people want to rank up because they can make more money by writing. The rest don’t care about signature campaigns but ranking up is a recognition of their good contribution to the forum.

So, in a way, merit has democratized the forum, but not in the sense of a social democracy, where all of us should be equal no matter if we make efforts or not, rather in the capitalist one where we are given the same opportunities and where we get to depend mostly on our effort.

[TMAN]

If you are already of a high ranked position then most likely you like the recent stricter rules as you don't need to jump through the hoops yourself to claim merit and be able to rank up anymore, but when i look through the profiles of most of the higher ranked members i doubt more than a handful of them would be able to progress past the rank of Jr member themselves with the current framework were they not already ranked up

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat

click that link - then come back here and apologise to us all for being a moaning used tampon. Any one of us on that list could rank up to Jr member in a week if we so chose to make the effort to gain the required merits, it isn't that fucking hard.

[hilariousetc]

After signing up to this forum only today i have a few comments to make regarding the ranking system.

Is this actually the truth? I'd bet money you just decided to hop onto a brand new account as to not draw attention to your 'main' account(s).

I have been using crypto for a long period of time and have often used bitcointalk and read links from here but just never bothered to make an account because i didn't see any reason to as i could already read anything i wanted on here without having one.

*Sniffs* I smell something. Could that be the whiff of bullshit emanating from somewhere? So let me get this straight: You never bothered to make an account on this bitcoin forum because you didn't need one, but the merit system is the catalyst for you to start doing that? If this was true then you would have nothing to complain about. The ranking or merit system stops nobody at all from reading or even posting. It merely stops low quality posters from rising through the ranks, and I'm not sure why this has given you the passion to start posting here unless it somehow directly effects you (which I'm almost certain this is the case).

as the title suggests is it possible for people to rank up on here still? If i was to have signed up to here a couple of years ago i could easily have progressed through the ranks but with the strict rules imposed by the regime in charge i think it is virtually impossible to pass the rank of jr member.

It's virtually impossible for shitposters to do so (without cheating). If I created a new anon account today I'm certain I would be able to achieve the ranks even within the timeframe it took me to get the required merit. Any decent-to-great poster should have little problem rising through the ranks, but again, it's the spammers that will struggle, and that's a good thing.

To gain enough merit without being a well known or already established user of the forum would take such a considerable effort that any user would also need a stroke a pure luck to even reach member rank now. The chances of being merited even a few times are very small let alone gaining hundreds of merits.

You're saying people shouldn't have to put effort into their posts? Should we keep rewarding laziness and greed? Shitposters may now need 'pure luck', but the rest just need to make decent posts. Not difficult at all. If you made one great post here you could easily get ten merit for that alone and you can receive a max of 50 per user so there's nothing stopping someone from making a great post that receives hundreds of merits. The problem is 95% of people aren't making great posts hence the need for the merit system in the first place.

I think Bitcointalk has a responsibility as the largest forum of it's kind to the crypto-users of the world to provide a fair, open, informative and balanced platform for everyone.

It doesn't have a responsibility to anyone, but anyone can come here and post. Not everybody should be able to come here and earn by posting though, especially if you are not qualified or trusted to do so. I'd say getting some merit is a good competency test for that, but the merit requirement should be higher (at least ten to get a signatures, preferably much, much more).

Although the user base has grown at an incredible speed, hopefully bitcointalk can be adapted to the new climate and continue being there for the community as it was originally intended.

How has this changed? It's still here for the community. Ranks are completely irrelevant to this. This forum was originally intended as place to discuss bitcoin, but sadly it's been hijacked by illiterate shitposters who don't even care about bitcoin coming here with dozens of accounts each just to earn by spamming, hence the need for the merit system.

Hopefully there will be some loosening of these rules or an entirely new system implemented sometime in the near future so new users are able to participate in all that this great forum has to offer. Well that's my 5 cents worth, thanks for reading.

Umm, can you again tell me what rules need to be loosened to allow people to participate here? What is stopping people from participating? Nothing stopped you and ironically the merit system even gave you the motivation to bother signing up for the first time *cough* bullshit *cough*. The rules aren't tight enough regarding spammers and one merit being required changes very little, especially when people merit whingers like you. I think theymos should implement a new system though. Remove all signatures and all airdropped merit, and then you don't get a signature at all until you've earned 1000+ merit. That will sort the what from the chaff. Let's see spammers ever earn that. Problem solved.

[Direwolve735]

... is it possible for people to rank up on here still? If i was to have signed up to here a couple of years ago i could easily have progressed through the ranks but with the strict rules imposed by the regime in charge i think it is virtually impossible to pass the rank of jr member.

It is possible to rise in a rank, even in the presence of a merit-system. You can look at this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5024849.0) and see for yourself that if you write constructive and high-quality posts, you have every chance to climb the “career ladder”. It's not so difficult to rise to a member, given that you only need 100 merit for this. Yes, you`ll have to spend your time and work hard to improve the quality of your comments, but there is nothing unattainable if you set yourself a goal and confidently strive for it.

To gain enough merit without being a well known or already established user of the forum would take such a considerable effort that any user would also need a stroke a pure luck to even reach member rank now. The chances of being merited even a few times are very small let alone gaining hundreds of merits.

Raising in rank and getting merit has nothing to do with luck. It depends entirely on your abilities, knowledge and efforts. If you don`t do anything to learn, if you don’t offer anything to the bitcointalk community, then no one will appreciate you with merit. Before you expect any rewards, you must show your own efforts. Bitcointalk members see your posts, read and analyze them, so don`t think that you go unnoticed. When you begin to contribute to the development of the forum, then you`ll receive merits.

[Jet Cash]

Of course it's possible, but there are a few basic requirements. One is a reasonable level in the ability to communicate, and your opening post fails on that count. To gain merit, you need people to read your posts. and the wall of text you presented put me off trying to work through it. Had you split it into two or three paragraphs, then more more people would read it, and some of them will be merit awarders.

Another way to improve your ranking is to stop bothering about the merit system. Bitcoin Talk members have a wide range of skills, and by interacting in quality discussions, you can acquire some of those skills. and you can earn money by using them. Learning how to become a TwitBook spammer, and polluting the Bitcoin Talk forum will not build you a long term income, also as many of the projects fail, or provide low payments, they may not even be a productive use of your time.

[vlad230]

Yes, it is definitely possible to reach a higher rank if you put in the work and invest time into your posts on the forum.

I have also managed to rank-up to Sr. Member starting out on 0 merit, you can check my story here: Sr. Member thanks to the merit system

Don't be discouraged and start reading & posting good quality posts

[LogitechMouse]

tl;dr

After commenting to your post may I give you piece of advice, don't make your post like a huge wall of shit because its not pleasant for the readers to see. I didn't read your post to be honest.

If you will see, there are many users here that already ranked up and they helped other people in different ways. Some are sharing information, some created useful threads in Beginners and Help section etc. It is possible to reach a high rank reward even the merit system has been implemented. Its your own way to know how to get some merits.

Why are some people getting bothered of not getting ranked up nowadays? For me, the main reason of rank is for bounty campaigns that is why most newbies are complaining about the merit system. Although there are some benefits of rank like the length of the text and the posting of images, if you are just here to get information then ranking up will not bother you. There are many who got ranked up already and they are an inspiration to members here who want to rank up.