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October 11, 2018, 01:45:45 AM
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Bloomberg ran an article yesterday about the decline of Ukraine, and how 'guns and bitcoin are the only ways to save the country. The article also spoke about the toppling of the statue of Lenin in December 2013 and, since late September this year, the spot where the statue once was now allows you to see an AR version of Satoshi Nakamoto. And, according to a few people.... “He could be Ukrainian.” Thoughts? (let me know if you can't find the article and want to read it)
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October 11, 2018, 02:25:02 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. No one knows. And it doesn't matter anyway.

Thank Satoshi for his invention, and let it be. Dude's trying to be anonymous. Let Satoshi live his life peacefully in a beachside of a beatiful country with some hookers and liquor.

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October 11, 2018, 06:43:54 AM
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If you look at the whitepaper and various postings you will see that he or she has an excellent command of the English language, probably a native speaker. Therefore unlikely to be a Ukrainian

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October 11, 2018, 08:01:44 AM
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Even if he'd be, and I personally don't think so, You won't find out either - look what he ( they ) set up here - a completely revolutionary monetary and economic distrupted world, so do not think for just a second if he wanted to hide from his anonymity online he really could have done it! Check out what Privacy coin is all about
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October 11, 2018, 08:14:32 AM
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Bloomberg ran an article yesterday about the decline of Ukraine, and how 'guns and bitcoin are the only ways to save the country. The article also spoke about the toppling of the statue of Lenin in December 2013 and, since late September this year, the spot where the statue once was now allows you to see an AR version of Satoshi Nakamoto. And, according to a few people.... “He could be Ukrainian.” Thoughts? (let me know if you can't find the article and want to read it)
If you post something, at least put the link so that everyone can read and give their opinion. You don't need to ask people around. With that sad, we really don't have any idea who the hell Satoshi is, he could be from other planet for all we know. The thing is, let the man remain anonymous if he wanted to be discovered, he could have done so in 2017 where Bitcoin peak at $20k.









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October 11, 2018, 08:42:07 AM
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Whatever the reason and where it came from, for me Satoshi Nakamoto is a hero for all of us here. Bitcoin has shown great achievements at the end of 2017, and is the center of attention! Thank you Satoshi nakamoto wherever you are and success for you. Even though I have never seen his face.
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October 11, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
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If you look at the whitepaper and various postings you will see that he or she has an excellent command of the English language, probably a native speaker. Therefore unlikely to be a Ukrainian

That's.. quite an assumption you have there. not because the english writing was good it doesn't automatically mean we should count out the Ukrainians lol. I'm pretty sure there are a good number of Ukrainians out there with excellent english. But who knows anyway.

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October 11, 2018, 10:42:06 AM
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I think everyone would be much more helpful to us if we had worked for Bitcoin as much as we would deal with Satoshi. Satoshi offered us a vision and now just watching. I think we should stop looking for who you are. I'm sure if it has to come out, it will come when the right time comes.
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October 11, 2018, 10:51:40 AM
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I think satoshi nakamoto is a group of here in bitcointalk you can see there are so many news they are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto in order to be famous.
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October 11, 2018, 11:20:02 AM
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I think that is interesting, but I am not interested in reading more details about Satoshi, Satoshi must remain a mysterious person for everyone, so if it is true you think that is true, I appreciate it

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October 11, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
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I think "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a group of members (developers)

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October 11, 2018, 11:35:11 AM
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Satoshi isn't Ukranian, Japanse or whatever, he is a world person!

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October 11, 2018, 12:08:50 PM
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If you look at the whitepaper and various postings you will see that he or she has an excellent command of the English language, probably a native speaker. Therefore unlikely to be a Ukrainian

Of course, it's impossible to deny this option. This person can be of any nationality. But if we talk about knowledge of the language, not only the native speaker can well owned them. It's possible that a person was born in one country, and he was taken to another country as a child, and there he learned the language and knows it better than the native speaker. In general, to be honest, I hear such news for the first time.
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October 11, 2018, 12:11:24 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. No one knows. And it doesn't matter anyway.

Thank Satoshi for his invention, and let it be. Dude's trying to be anonymous. Let Satoshi live his life peacefully in a beachside of a beatiful country with some hookers and liquor.

I share the same view, this is the guy who does not want to become popular and maybe he is a very simple and shun publicity, we should just be thankful that he created this technology and let him go on with his life maybe he is a Filipino, we never know it really not confirms his nationality.
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October 11, 2018, 12:16:37 PM
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I really can't say anything about it. If you look his name you can just say that he is Japan or Asian ofcourse but anything can be happen todays world. When i see Ukrania i think about the Ethereum, because i know that it allowed with the Russian side. And they belive that the Ukraine will follow the footsteps of Slovenia and raise the public awareness about the cryptocurrency.

Here is the news:

Ukrainian Initiative Plans To Construct Satoshi Nakamoto Statue says
https://toshitimes.com/ukrainian-initiative-plans-to-construct-satoshi-nakamoto-statue/
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October 11, 2018, 12:19:39 PM
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Obviously the name Satoshi Nakamoto sounds Japanese but it's probably just a fake name.  I saw an article that pointed out it was a combination of the following companies:

1. Samsung

2. Toshiba

3. Nakamichi

4. Motorola


The mystery of who Satoshi is will most likely never be solved because he did everything he could to stay hidden.
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October 11, 2018, 12:32:39 PM
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I am not sure he is Ukrainian, some say Satoshi lives in Australia.
I do not want to argue and that in my opinion is not important. he remains a mystery so far.

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October 11, 2018, 12:34:41 PM
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Why do you care is the bigger question here IMO...
What would it change for you personally, if you did find out that Satoshi is Ukranian?

I really do not understand the appeal of trying to speculate who he might be.
Maybe because some previous searches for Satoshi have ended up in people getting needlessly harassed by journalists.

I'm not going to put any time and effort into trying to doxx someone who clearly wanted to remain anonymous.

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October 11, 2018, 12:37:53 PM
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Many don't really care at all if Satoshi is Ukranian, Japanese, Or whatever people might think of Satoshi's whereabouts might be but one is certain for all people that known Satoshi by his name, It is because he created Bitcoin a great technology that lets you have a fast and convenient  transaction wherever and whenever you might be, And yes provided us with freedom and have an extra income regarding the blockchain technology,

Whatever the facts about him he will be well known by that name and will remain a mystery to the whole bitcoin community. 
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Until now I have not heard for sure about the existence of Satoshi Nakamoto, or maybe he is designing other programs and certainly what he has created today is bitcoin has brought a new civilization in financial terms.

 
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October 11, 2018, 12:46:57 PM
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Ukrainian, or Japanese, or American or from any country - does it really matter? we should let him/her/them stay as he/she/they like to live, among the crowd.
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base on the "banking on bitcoin" documentary on youtube the closest clue that we have is nick sabo and halfiney, those are the early members of the cypher punk movement , you guys better watch it its an eye opener  Roll Eyes
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October 11, 2018, 01:12:55 PM
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Honestly I don't have a lot of deeper information's about Satoshi Nakamoto, but one thing I knew about him? he is a great man who invented, discovered, and developed the virtual world of currency. He was a good person with a clever mind that caused groundbreaking revolutionary development on our economy, social community and personality. That's why even he is still anonymous maybe we should give him a big thanks for everything that  he could gave us in the world of cryptocurrency.

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Honestly I don't have a lot of deeper information's about Satoshi Nakamoto, but one thing I knew about him? he is a great man who invented, discovered, and developed the virtual world of currency.

Just for your information: Satoshi Nakamoto invented bitcoin; but Satoshi did not invent cryptocurrencies, and virtual currency in general. We had lesser-known cryptocurrencies in the past like Hashcash[1] and Nick Szabo's Bit Gold[2].


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashcash
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bit_Gold_proposal

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October 11, 2018, 02:20:52 PM
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Satoshi nakamoto name is sound from japan, im pretty sure about it. He is professional and maybe now he is old man

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October 11, 2018, 02:33:21 PM
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Satoshi nakamoto name is sound from japan, im pretty sure about it. He is professional and maybe now he is old man

Yes. But "Satoshi Nakamoto" is only a pseudonym. If that was his real name, then people have found out who he is and where he's at already. We don't even know if Satoshi is a "he", "she", or "they".

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October 11, 2018, 07:56:46 PM
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"Satoshi" can be Ukrainian, Norwegian, Japanese, American, Yes anyone. His identity is hidden, and it is unlikely that we will know who actually created bitcoin and whether it is one person. And I don't think it matters at all.
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I also saw the article on some crypto news site. As I know the statue is a combination of three different people with three types of skin color and robot legs. In general it is a combination of possible looks of Satoshi, which means that nobody actually know who is he and how he looks like.
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Bloomberg ran an article yesterday about the decline of Ukraine, and how 'guns and bitcoin are the only ways to save the country. The article also spoke about the toppling of the statue of Lenin in December 2013 and, since late September this year, the spot where the statue once was now allows you to see an AR version of Satoshi Nakamoto. And, according to a few people.... “He could be Ukrainian.” Thoughts? (let me know if you can't find the article and want to read it)

As far as I know, the course of Ukraine is absolutely not aimed at legalizing cryptocurrency. The government pays very little attention to this. Now everyone is busy preparing for the upcoming elections. And the course aimed at euro-integration suggests that Ukraine has the same opinion about cryptocurrency as Europe. I doubt Satoshi is related to Ukraine. ))

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As a Ukrainian, I am immensely surprised by the news. Information that a monument to Satoshi will be erected in Kiev has been discussed in the Russian-speaking forum thread for several months now. Many people treat this with sarcasm, others are perplexed, since not less than half of the population of Ukraine has no idea not only who Satoshi is, but what bitcoin is. In this regard, I consider it doubtful a statement that Bitcoin will save Ukraine, because there are very few coin holders among Ukrainians.

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base on the "banking on bitcoin" documentary on youtube the closest clue that we have is nick sabo and halfiney, those are the early members of the cypher punk movement , you guys better watch it its an eye opener  Roll Eyes

And Hal Finney is dead. Died of ALS 5 or so years ago. Hal was the first person Satoshi transacted bitcoin with, he was also the first person aside from Satoshi running a node. And a former home of his was located only blocks away from the Satoshi Nakamoto that People magazine incorrectly named as the Satoshi. And Nick Sabo had a very similar cryptocurrency proposal earlier in the 2000s and Satoshi's white paper explains his/her concept using language that is eerily similar to the exact same words used in Nick's proposal.

My hunch is that it was Nick and Hal that created bitcoin - they are Satoshi Nakamoto.
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I think it's some kind of fiction or newspaper joke. There can be no such thing in Ukraine, instead of a monument to Lenin, someone made a monument to Satoshi Nakamoto. This is probably a common joke in order to draw the attention of the world community to the problems of Ukraine.

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Please give a link to the article. This is interesting information.
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Please give a link to the article. This is interesting information.

Here you go buddy: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-10/revolution-anarchy-and-bitcoin-in-ukraine

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October 12, 2018, 02:22:04 AM
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I think no one can know exactly. Everything about Satoshi is just what they guess, not true. No matter who he is, we also should say thank to him for creating a great thing like bitcoin
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SO, we look at his full name we can easily say it that he is a Japanese or maybe either of his mother and father is Japenese. Since we really don't know he doesn't want to be known or reveal himself to us. All we have to do is thank him for his invention and be grateful that there are people who really wants to help themselves  and others.

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I think it's some kind of fiction or newspaper joke. There can be no such thing in Ukraine, instead of a monument to Lenin, someone made a monument to Satoshi Nakamoto. This is probably a common joke in order to draw the attention of the world community to the problems of Ukraine.
we really have to be selective about news. i think this news is far from logic. but let us hope we remain selective in filtering news, especially if it is related to the development of btc prices, so we are not trapped by news

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October 12, 2018, 08:59:22 AM
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Funny theory, but I can not say anything about this. He can be anyone. Ukrainian, Russian, American, Australian, etc.
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October 12, 2018, 09:12:35 AM
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An interesting article and many pros and cons that occur. To respond to this, there are certainly many who consider jokes, while Satoshi Nakamoto will not appear. This is bitcoin for the future that everyone also wants to find its founder that is still a mystery.

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Name " Satoshi Nakamoto" doesn't seems like a Ukrainian name but more like a Chinese name but who ever he is the work that is done to the world is really great because most people heard advanced technologies like Blockchain technology and first decentralized digital currency concept through his invention which is bitcoin and it changed the world immensely to a new path technically and economically 

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Satoshi Nakamoto can your be neighbor, my neighbor and any native that is just sitting out there laughing speculations on who really he/they is/are. And thinking if he's a Ukranian, who knows? if he/she is just giving confusion for having a japanese pseudonym.

My hunch is that it was Nick and Hal that created bitcoin - they are Satoshi Nakamoto.
That's also what I suspect but I guess this is going to be one of the greatest mystery that will never be solved.

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As far as I know, there are no indications that he could be Ukranian.

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My hunch is that it was Nick and Hal that created bitcoin - they are Satoshi Nakamoto.
That's also what I suspect but I guess this is going to be one of the greatest mystery that will never be solved.

i don't think Hal is the creator of bitcoin although it has been debated a lot. based on his comments and the contributions he was mostly a contributor and someone who was very interested in bitcoin who found out about it like the rest of us.

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October 12, 2018, 09:53:23 AM
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haha/ I heard another version. that the FBR detained a group of Ukrainian hackers who were threatened with a long prison term. And they were offered to create a digital cryptographic currency to avoid imprisonment. It all sounds funny))

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No doubt that Satoshi Nakamoto creation is epic and it will live forever. However, till date, no one knows for sure his true identity.
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My hunch is that it was Nick and Hal that created bitcoin - they are Satoshi Nakamoto.
That's also what I suspect but I guess this is going to be one of the greatest mystery that will never be solved.
i don't think Hal is the creator of bitcoin although it has been debated a lot. based on his comments and the contributions he was mostly a contributor and someone who was very interested in bitcoin who found out about it like the rest of us.
He is one of the most suspected person not only because of his interest to bitcoin but the first ever transaction was ever done through him and satoshi which has been said by Habbear.

Kudos to him and I've always admired him after knowing his contributions and views to bitcoin. Whoever claims that he is satoshi right now, no one would ever believe them anymore.

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I am sure that he is Ukrainian. it is unlikely that such an intelligent person could live in this country in terms of economics in order to build such
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Nobody knows details about Satoshi Nakamoto, whether he/she is Ukranian or Australian. However, we are indebted to Satoshi Nakamoto for his invention ( Bitcoin- the first digital currency in the world).
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I watched the film "Who is Satoshi Nakomoto," they directly say that this is a group of American Bitcoin developers. There was no particular person. And this group was led by a United States America.
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I highly doubt that Nick Szabo is Ukranian Smiley
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I think that with significant fluctuations in bitcoin prices, I think bitcoin still cannot be compared to gold, so now gold is still a priority in improving a country that is slumping
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Satoshi Nakamoto isn't Ukranian he is from Japan and he claimed the he is Japanese but he lived in various European countries and that's why he is fluent through European languages . Totally no one knows who is Satoshi it is and where he live from?.
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Based on the fact that text with presentation of Bitcoin is written in immaculately pure technical English, it is most likely made by an American or an Englishman. In addition, similar patents have already been filed in the United States by various researchers.
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there has been a lot of speculation about the origin of the Satoshi Nakamoto country, but what happened? I don't think there's anything special about news like this. obviously we really respect and appreciate anyone behind the emergence of this cryptocurrency industry. but more than that, what we need to do now as a community is to continue what has been dreamed of and become Satoshi Nakamoto's hope. no need to be busy finding out and claiming who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, let him remain a mystery, because maybe that is what he wants, I'm sure he is still alive out there, maybe still contribute without us knowing.
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I am sure that he is Ukrainian. it is unlikely that such an intelligent person could live in this country in terms of economics in order to build such
Do you have that any strong proof to support that Satoshi is a Ukranian? there's no way that you can be sure of it unless you are just saying that base on your point of view. No doubt that each country has its own intelligence in building and innovating technologies but we don't have enough proof about Satoshi being a Ukranian.

I highly doubt that Nick Szabo is Ukranian Smiley
We aren't even sure if Satoshi is Nick Szabo.

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Ukrainian, or Japanese, or American or from any country - does it really matter? we should let him/her/them stay as he/she/they like to live, among the crowd.

LOL. For me, it was very funny to read that somebody could guess that Satoshi is/was a Ukrainian. I am still sure that no one can ever get the true information about this person.
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If you look at the whitepaper and various postings you will see that he or she has an excellent command of the English language, probably a native speaker. Therefore unlikely to be a Ukrainian

There are many people, mainly English teachers, with perfect writing skills in Ukraine, just like in any other country. Usually it's close to impossible to distinguish a native user from a very experienced and highly educated learner. If you heard them speaking, you would be able to see the difference. Polishing an accent can take 20 or more years, but you need much less time to learn written language.
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who knows????may be or not but his name indicate himself as china or japanese.
but thinking satoshi nakamoto ukranian is really funny .i know still no one identify him.

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I also saw the article on some crypto news site. As I know the statue is a combination of three different people with three types of skin color and robot legs. In general it is a combination of possible looks of Satoshi, which means that nobody actually know who is he and how he looks like.

That is exactly picture which doesn't prove anything, but appear as a fan art. The article is also saying about fast temps of growth of people's interest to crypto. I am really happy for them. Hope that crypto progress will move up bitcoin from knees.
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I am sure that he is not Ukrainian but this doesn't matter anyway! What is the difference? Btc matters much more because this is a great coin with the large potential and power of the leader
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Dominic_Johnson please send a link to the article in the PM. What does Ukrainian mean? Citizenship or nationality? How did they identify it? I'm interested in Satoshi himself, not his nationality.

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In fact, as much as I have read, and have to go that nobody knows properly about Satoshi Nakamoto. It may or may not be, but I think it does not matter who they were, we should just thank them that they have made such a better invention. That if it is done with full dedication and hard work, then in life easily be improved.
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I am more likely that Satoshi is Japanese. because of the name, of course everyone knows that "satoshi nakamoto" is a Japanese person.
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I am more likely that Satoshi is Japanese. because of the name, of course everyone knows that "satoshi nakamoto" is a Japanese person.
hehe. Or maybe he took a Japanese alias to deceive everyone ? maybe it's not just one person but as the whole group previously wrote.many theories, but we can and never know the truth

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Bloomberg ran an article yesterday about the decline of Ukraine, and how 'guns and bitcoin are the only ways to save the country. The article also spoke about the toppling of the statue of Lenin in December 2013 and, since late September this year, the spot where the statue once was now allows you to see an AR version of Satoshi Nakamoto. And, according to a few people.... “He could be Ukrainian.” Thoughts? (let me know if you can't find the article and want to read it)

No one knows who was Satoshi Nakamoto since he doesn't reveal who is he. He can be one of us who still watching the bitcoin market, and I am sure that he does not disappear but he change to another person. I don't think that the article was giving true news because it is hard to detect one person who online on the internet especially if he doesn't use his real identity to talk with the other people. Besides that, I am not sure that Satoshi Nakamoto is only one person because he must be a real genius to talk about the idea behind of cryptocurrency.
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October 14, 2018, 05:54:13 AM
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Maybe not? Maybe yes? No one knows what happen to satoshi nakamoto, as for me its still mystery why she/he left, maybe he realize that bitcoin that day will not as good as now, then left and now there is no way for him to return because its too late? Or he died of uncurable sickness like cancer. But still i hope he  is alive and well.

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October 14, 2018, 05:56:10 AM
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Bloomberg ran an article yesterday about the decline of Ukraine, and how 'guns and bitcoin are the only ways to save the country. The article also spoke about the toppling of the statue of Lenin in December 2013 and, since late September this year, the spot where the statue once was now allows you to see an AR version of Satoshi Nakamoto. And, according to a few people.... “He could be Ukrainian.” Thoughts? (let me know if you can't find the article and want to read it)
From the name itlself Satoshi Nakamoto its a Japanese name but whoever he is  he wanted to be anonymous and i think lets just leave it that way.Lets all thank him for his creation that already made people crazy over it due to its high volume in the coinmarket capitalization and the demand that has made its value to rise goes this far.
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October 14, 2018, 06:14:03 AM
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Lol. What are you talking about op? Are you serious right now? Many have tried unraveling the mysterious anonymous identity of the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto, but they have all failed clearly and I am confident that they will continue to fail.

There is no point in trying to decipher the identity of Satoshi and I personally respect that since the primary feature of this cryptocurrency market is anonymity itself, but many people tend to forget that due to various reasons.

Stop trying to focus on Satoshi's identity and focus on other important aspects of life instead which would do you a world of good in the short term and long term.

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October 14, 2018, 06:59:58 AM
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so many who claim to be satoshi nakamoto just to be more famous, but I don't really think about who satoshi nakamoto really is and from which country, I prefer satoshi to remain mysterious because it is more interesting to me.

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October 14, 2018, 07:04:09 AM
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This is the wonderful mystery of bitcoin which makes it quite unique in nature. It might be possible Satoshi Nakamoto is a Ukrainian or he might also be a Japanese or not. We are all curious to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. He has introduced a technology that is transforming the world financial ecosystem.
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October 14, 2018, 09:06:31 AM
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Bloomberg ran an article yesterday about the decline of Ukraine, and how 'guns and bitcoin are the only ways to save the country. The article also spoke about the toppling of the statue of Lenin in December 2013 and, since late September this year, the spot where the statue once was now allows you to see an AR version of Satoshi Nakamoto. And, according to a few people.... “He could be Ukrainian.” Thoughts? (let me know if you can't find the article and want to read it)
Well, it is not necessary. Simply, enthusiasts and supporters of cryptocurrencies decided to perpetuate the memory of the creator of Bitcoin - Satoshi Nakamoto. And this monument will be located in the very center of Kiev. This, of course, does not mean that Nakamoto is somehow related to Ukraine.
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October 14, 2018, 09:50:30 AM
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why you have argument like that? since i know bitcoin and i read about the history about bitcoin, i read about satoshi nakamoto is the founder of bitcoin, but until right now i dont know who he is? why he creating bitcoin? and why they dont want to show himself, it is a big mystery for all people in this forum and bitcoin user

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October 14, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
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That's doesn't matter,  but I would like to be proud of my compatriot.
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