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November 11, 2018, 01:15:12 PM |
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Oprah. Please. Politics is not showbusiness. Just because US people fell for a reality show lunatic once, it doesn't mean a talk show star should run for president now.
What US should do is get serious and elect a freaking stable, credible and intelligent president that will be taken seriously and deserves respect.
The democratic party needs a candidate that can unite the party (not saying that's Oprah LOL) if they want to beat Trump in 2020. Trump's base is probably not abandoning him and if the dem facing him can't pull out all the dem voters than Trump has a much better chance in 2020. Unfortunately a lot of liberals won't like a corporate democrat while others won't like a more populous candidate bridging that gap would give them the best shot against Trump and his loyal base. At this point I'm not actually sure who that candidate is.
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November 11, 2018, 08:55:58 PM |
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At this point I'm not actually sure who that candidate is.
I'd prefer someone under 45 years old
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@bluefirecorp_ Just out of curiosity. do you think that Americans are ready for Asian background candidate to lead their country as a President? Andrew Yang is American but culturally only. and it applies to another Asian politician as well, to name a few Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley etc.
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November 15, 2018, 03:24:18 PM |
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@bluefirecorp_ Just out of curiosity. do you think that Americans are ready for Asian background candidate to lead their country as a President? Andrew Yang is American but culturally only. and it applies to another Asian politician as well, to name a few Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley etc.
I mean, an orange man was elected president. I don't see why yellow people can't be elected. I don't think origin of ancestry really matters when it comes to leadership to be honest. We all immigrated to America at one point in time, rather it be a hundred years ago or ten thousand years ago. I haven't looked at any of these candidate's political views quite yet, so I haven't judged them. Just listed the people who are candidates. I saw a semi-republican running, so that'll be interesting.
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November 16, 2018, 06:03:05 AM Last edit: December 01, 2018, 10:42:04 AM by JSRAW |
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Yeah in ideal world ancestry doesn't matter when it comes to leadership but we are not living in one. In the current political system all around the world, I don't think its true. it's good for discussion or taking high moral ground but again not going to happen in ground level IMHO. Edit How about Tulsi Gabbard? https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-bid-917418
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December 04, 2018, 06:24:40 AM |
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Sanders/AOC...
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December 04, 2018, 08:38:14 AM |
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That can never happen. AOC is barely old enough to become a senator in 2020. She will still only be 34 in 2024. Bernie will be too old in 2028.
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December 06, 2018, 02:15:48 AM |
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Why not nominee Al Green or Al Gore? those guys are good possible candidates. Also, Joe Biden or Bill Clinton can win against Trump or other Republican candidates.
I believe that Bernie Sanders could have won against Trump but he was threatened and he backed off
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December 06, 2018, 06:23:12 PM |
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Why not nominee Al Green or Al Gore? those guys are good possible candidates. Also, Joe Biden or Bill Clinton can win against Trump or other Republican candidates.
I believe that Bernie Sanders could have won against Trump but he was threatened and he backed off
Bill Clinton is term'ed out. Al Gore left politics as far as I know. Never heard of Al Green. Sanders would have won in 2016 easily.
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December 07, 2018, 04:32:37 AM |
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Elizabeth Warren is too much attached with the establishment like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders is too old. I'd go for Tulsi Gabbard, if her religion is not an issue.
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December 07, 2018, 01:17:16 PM |
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Elizabeth Warren is too much attached with the establishment like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders is too old. I'd go for Tulsi Gabbard, if her religion is not an issue.
To be fair, any theist is a bad choice. I'm not sure how we can appoint these irrational people to office, but it seems it's been done over and over.
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December 07, 2018, 03:47:51 PM |
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Elizabeth Warren is too much attached with the establishment like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders is too old. I'd go for Tulsi Gabbard, if her religion is not an issue.
To be fair, any theist is a bad choice. I'm not sure how we can appoint these irrational people to office, but it seems it's been done over and over. There has never been an openly atheist POTUS. Being openly atheist is an instant death blow federally. The best you can hope for at this point is someone who's faking it, like Trump LOL!
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December 10, 2018, 01:27:25 AM |
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I'm a former Democrat, but unless they nominate someone like Jim Webb, you can forget people like me (classical liberals) ever coming back. The Democrats and Republicans are now the party of Open borders, large government spending including huge deficits, corporate welfare and the list goes on but you get my drift.
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I don't think she'll win but I reckon Ocasia-Cortez will stage a run, most likely for purely publicity reasons.
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There was a couple of polls out of Iowa this weekend. Biden ~30% Sanders ~20% O'Rourke ~10% Warren, Harris and Booker all come in behind them with single digits (Booker polled the worst at ~4)%
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Avenatti lol. Will definitely get the women vote!
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I'd crossover and vote democrat if its the right candidate. So far I'm only really interested in voting for these:
Bernie Tulsi Yang
If Booker adepts the green new deal I'd be on board and maybe I could warm up to Warren. but I'd never vote for this list of neoliberals
Biden Harris Kaine Holder Clinton Beto Gillibrand Klobuchar Cuomo
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There was a couple of polls out of Iowa this weekend.
Iowa only matters because its primary is very early in the election season, and the results of their primary influence if donors will support candidates. Interestingly, CA is moving up their primary to March, on "Super Tuesday". This could actually backfire for Democrats and force Democrat presidential hopefuls to move left to get support of CA voters, but being so far left that centrists will be turned off.
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December 18, 2018, 05:07:44 AM |
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California is quite centrist. Home of the Reagan democrats and just elected Feinstein over a progressive. The place that gave you Kamala Harris.
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