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October 13, 2018, 08:55:23 AM
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Nagbukas ako ng account sa Security Bank noong nakaraang araw dahil kailangang kong magbukas ulit ng account sa PayPal at dahil malayo ang Union Bank sa lugar ko I decided na dito na lang ako sa banko na ito kasi authorized sya ng PayPal to handle transactions sa kanila. During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

I was specifically told na bawal pala daw ang mag-deposit ng pera na galing sa Bitcoin o cryptocurrency na ang ibig sabihin bawal mag encash sa Coins.Ph at ipa-deposit sa account mo sa Security Bank... ang pwede eh yung kanilang eGiveCash na cashless withdrawal. Ang reason na binigay ng interviewer is that the Central Bank has warned them about Bitcoin and similar business transactions as banks are not authorized to handle the same and if ever I am caught depositing or sending money from Bitcoin encashment to my account then the bank can forfeit the same money that's why the warning.

Totoo rin ata to sa iba pang bangko lalo na yung mga sikat at malalaki though I was able to deposit money to my Metrobank account before from Coins.Ph. Siguro itanong ko rin ito sa coins.ph ano ba talaga ang clear situation...
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October 13, 2018, 10:36:23 AM
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Gusto ko lang mag comment about this Sir, hindi po totoong pinag babawal ng Central Bank ang anumang activities about cryptocurrency, yung interviewer lang po siguro ang medyo ignorante about dun, sa katunayan, UnionBank, Security Bank, BDO ay nakikipag coordinate na po sa mga iba't ibang blockchain entities dito sa bansa natin, maging ang Central Bank din po ay nakikipag ugnayan na din patungkol sa mga cryptocurrencies.
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October 13, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
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I didn't know that of all the times I have been trying to withdraw. I never knew that it's not allowed or something. If I wanted to cash out, I would usually use eGiveCash but now, I also have a bank account there and deposit directly. Maybe the coins.ph owner has an account for transactions to handle that. Using bitcoin trading in another place or something. Just a theory.

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Nagbukas ako ng account sa Security Bank noong nakaraang araw dahil kailangang kong magbukas ulit ng account sa PayPal at dahil malayo ang Union Bank sa lugar ko I decided na dito na lang ako sa banko na ito kasi authorized sya ng PayPal to handle transactions sa kanila. During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

I was specifically told na bawal pala daw ang mag-deposit ng pera na galing sa Bitcoin o cryptocurrency na ang ibig sabihin bawal mag encash sa Coins.Ph at ipa-deposit sa account mo sa Security Bank... ang pwede eh yung kanilang eGiveCash na cashless withdrawal. Ang reason na binigay ng interviewer is that the Central Bank has warned them about Bitcoin and similar business transactions as banks are not authorized to handle the same and if ever I am caught depositing or sending money from Bitcoin encashment to my account then the bank can forfeit the same money that's why the warning.

Totoo rin ata to sa iba pang bangko lalo na yung mga sikat at malalaki though I was able to deposit money to my Metrobank account before from Coins.Ph. Siguro itanong ko rin ito sa coins.ph ano ba talaga ang clear situation...

Had the same issue sa BDO few months ago. I tried opening an account sa kanila (davao branch) at ganun din yung tanong; saan daw galing yung pera ko dahil kapag may connection daw sa bitcoin, pupwede daw nila e close yung account. 'Di ko na tinuloy yung balak ko sa BDO, dun nalang ako sa BPI, but they asked the same question. So, I lied para 'lang makapag-bukas ako ng account.  Grin No point on being honest with these guys kung anytime pupwede nila e-close yung account mo just because connected ito with cryptocurrencies.

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Totoo rin ata to sa iba pang bangko lalo na yung mga sikat at malalaki though I was able to deposit money to my Metrobank account before from Coins.Ph. Siguro itanong ko rin ito sa coins.ph ano ba talaga ang clear situation...

so far good ang BPI, nakakapag encash pa ako sa kanila.

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Ang reason na binigay ng interviewer is that the Central Bank has warned them about Bitcoin and similar business transactions as banks are not authorized to handle the same and if ever I am caught depositing or sending money from Bitcoin encashment to my account then the bank can forfeit the same money that's why the warning.

This is true but not the "forfeit" thing. Makukuha mo pa din siya as long as may mga docs ka mag papatunay sayo yung pera. I have a friend from BDO and manager siya doon, ni clarify niya sa akin ito.

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During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

wag na wag kang mag babanggit ng "bitcoin", flag agad sa kanila yun. kahit ako hindi din pinayagan kaya lumipat ako ng ibang brach ng Security Bank



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During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

wag na wag kang mag babanggit ng "bitcoin", flag agad sa kanila yun. kahit ako hindi din pinayagan kaya lumipat ako ng ibang brach ng Security Bank
Tama to kahit hindi bitcoin basta networking o kahit anung sources of income na may warning ang SEC at Central Bank hindi nila tatanggapin yan nagtanung din ako at ang sabi wag sasabihin na yun ang sources of income you can mention naman yung kahit simple lang at legit pinagtataka ko lang may balita na supported o acknowledged ng central bank ang cryptocurrency bakit ganun ang response ng interviewer na bawal ang transaction and as far as I concern BDO lang ang napabalitang nagcloclose ng account sana may statement dito or kaliwanagan about sa concern na to.

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October 13, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
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Di bawal sa dito sa akin in fact nung tinanong ako kung related sa crypto yung source of income ko eh sagot ko oo at wala naman silang paki alam. Gamit ko ang security bank sa pag encash sa kasalukuyan at direct. Minimum is 10k nga eh wala naman aberya, tinanong pa nga ako kung investor ako sabi ko oo buyer ako ng BTC. Di ko alam kung anung mero diyan sa security branch nyu okay naman kami dito zamboanga area.
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Nagbukas ako ng account sa Security Bank noong nakaraang araw dahil kailangang kong magbukas ulit ng account sa PayPal at dahil malayo ang Union Bank sa lugar ko I decided na dito na lang ako sa banko na ito kasi authorized sya ng PayPal to handle transactions sa kanila. During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

I was specifically told na bawal pala daw ang mag-deposit ng pera na galing sa Bitcoin o cryptocurrency na ang ibig sabihin bawal mag encash sa Coins.Ph at ipa-deposit sa account mo sa Security Bank... ang pwede eh yung kanilang eGiveCash na cashless withdrawal. Ang reason na binigay ng interviewer is that the Central Bank has warned them about Bitcoin and similar business transactions as banks are not authorized to handle the same and if ever I am caught depositing or sending money from Bitcoin encashment to my account then the bank can forfeit the same money that's why the warning.

Totoo rin ata to sa iba pang bangko lalo na yung mga sikat at malalaki though I was able to deposit money to my Metrobank account before from Coins.Ph. Siguro itanong ko rin ito sa coins.ph ano ba talaga ang clear situation...

Bakit po kaya ganun, parang naguguluhan naman ako, pero pwede ang cashout ng coins.ph into egivecash? which is handled by security bank? Parang ang gulo nman ng anggulo ng sitwasyong ito?

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October 14, 2018, 05:46:43 AM
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First of all, kung ipinagbabawal ng Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas ang pagdeposit ng anumang pera na galing sa crypto ay dapat matagal nang pinasara ang Unionbank. Ang BSP ay hindi ito ipinagbabawal. In fact, naglabas pa sila ng pahayag neutral ang kanilang pananaw tungkol sa cryptocurrency. Maging maingat lamang daw sa mga papasukung investments related dito para maiwasan ang mga scams.
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Nagbukas ako ng account sa Security Bank noong nakaraang araw dahil kailangang kong magbukas ulit ng account sa PayPal at dahil malayo ang Union Bank sa lugar ko I decided na dito na lang ako sa banko na ito kasi authorized sya ng PayPal to handle transactions sa kanila. During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

I was specifically told na bawal pala daw ang mag-deposit ng pera na galing sa Bitcoin o cryptocurrency na ang ibig sabihin bawal mag encash sa Coins.Ph at ipa-deposit sa account mo sa Security Bank... ang pwede eh yung kanilang eGiveCash na cashless withdrawal. Ang reason na binigay ng interviewer is that the Central Bank has warned them about Bitcoin and similar business transactions as banks are not authorized to handle the same and if ever I am caught depositing or sending money from Bitcoin encashment to my account then the bank can forfeit the same money that's why the warning.

Totoo rin ata to sa iba pang bangko lalo na yung mga sikat at malalaki though I was able to deposit money to my Metrobank account before from Coins.Ph. Siguro itanong ko rin ito sa coins.ph ano ba talaga ang clear situation...

Nuong nakaraan araw ay nagtangka din akong mag bukas ng account sa parehong bangko, Security bank at sinabi nilang hindi sila nag-oopen ng account kung ang funds dito ay magmumula sa crypto. Sinabi nilang High Risk daw ang usaping crypto at hindi daw ito pinapayagan ng Bangko Sentral kung walang kaukulang dokumento na nagpapatunay na galing sa legal ang pera, hindi din nila tinatanggap ang blockchain network records online. Kung other sources of income siguro ay pwede pa pero kung galing sa crypto ay mukhang malabo at ang masama pa ay maaaring ma hold ang funds mo at mahihirapan kang mag withdraw kung sakaling malaki na ang iyong naideposito.
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October 14, 2018, 08:31:29 AM
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Ang BSP ay hindi ito ipinagbabawal. In fact, naglabas pa sila ng pahayag neutral ang kanilang pananaw tungkol sa cryptocurrency. Maging maingat lamang daw sa mga papasukung investments related dito para maiwasan ang mga scams.

Yun nga din sa pagkakaalam ko, siguro ang mga branch head ng naturang bangko ang nagdedesisyon dahil din siguro walang kaukulang notice mula sa Bangko Sentral na "Legal" talaga ang crypto kung kaya't para safe ay dini deny nalang nila ang mga nag-aaply na ang source of income ay crypto.

Di bawal sa dito sa akin in fact nung tinanong ako kung related sa crypto yung source of income ko eh sagot ko oo at wala naman silang paki alam. Gamit ko ang security bank sa pag encash sa kasalukuyan at direct. Minimum is 10k nga eh wala naman aberya, tinanong pa nga ako kung investor ako sabi ko oo buyer ako ng BTC. Di ko alam kung anung mero diyan sa security branch nyu okay naman kami dito zamboanga area.

Sa amin din kasi ay hindi kami hinahayaang mag open ng account. Depende talaga siguro kung saan branch at kung ina-allow ba ng head ang ganitong source of income.
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October 14, 2018, 08:49:43 AM
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Dati nung kumuha ako ng bank accout sa bpi sabi ko lang pangsavings from my freelancer extra income yun lang wag nalang po kayo magbanggit tungkol sa crypto pagdating sa bank pag tinanong kayo sabihin nio di nio alam yun haha kasi ayaw tlaga nila tumanggap lalo na pag sa bitcoin hindi ka papayagan o kaya sa kapatid mo na nasa abroad yung pera ipapatago lang kamo sayo diba para makakuha kayo ng account yung sa cash in naman hindi pa den ako ngkakaproblema kahit galing pa sa coinsph kahit 100k+ ipasok ko ok lang naman iwan ko bat sa ibang branch ng bank ayaw nila sa crypto.
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Had the same issue sa BDO few months ago. I tried opening an account sa kanila (davao branch) at ganun din yung tanong; saan daw galing yung pera ko dahil kapag may connection daw sa bitcoin, pupwede daw nila e close yung account. 'Di ko na tinuloy yung balak ko sa BDO, dun nalang ako sa BPI, but they asked the same question. So, I lied para 'lang makapag-bukas ako ng account.  Grin No point on being honest with these guys kung anytime pupwede nila e-close yung account mo just because connected ito with cryptocurrencies.

Ang BDO ata mas strict sa bagay na to...meron akong Facebook friend na talagang pinasara ang account nya sa BDO dahil sa involvement nya sa cryptocurrency.  And pangit sa sitwasyon na to ay nakikita natin na iba-iba ang bawat banko sa kanilang ginagawa at paningin sa cryptocurrency...and this whole thing is warranting that the Bangko Sentral must come up with clear-cut guidelines and definitions that all banks must adhere to in relation to cryptocurrency and transactions related to it. Kaya sa may balak mag-open dyan ng account sa banko, wag na kayo maging honest just lie a little para walang hassles...
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Ang BDO ata mas strict sa bagay na to...meron akong Facebook friend na talagang pinasara ang account nya sa BDO dahil sa involvement nya sa cryptocurrency.  And pangit sa sitwasyon na to ay nakikita natin na iba-iba ang bawat banko sa kanilang ginagawa at paningin sa cryptocurrency...and this whole thing is warranting that the Bangko Sentral must come up with clear-cut guidelines and definitions that all banks must adhere to in relation to cryptocurrency and transactions related to it. Kaya sa may balak mag-open dyan ng account sa banko, wag na kayo maging honest just lie a little para walang hassles...
Dati napaisip isip ako kung anong banko pwede ko pag open ng savings account, I'm not sure kung tinanong ako kung san galing mga pera ko pero I have work so I think they didn't ask me anything, nakausap ko yung sa new accounts officers and nakwento ko lang din about coins.ph na through Security Bank yun ginagawa. Hindi ko alam na strict na pala sa mga ganun bagay at hopefully yung BSP would make amends on those types of thinkings sa banks. I hope they fully accept cryptocurrency in different forms and small business or even large businesses would accept Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency in the market.

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Nagbukas ako ng account sa Security Bank noong nakaraang araw dahil kailangang kong magbukas ulit ng account sa PayPal at dahil malayo ang Union Bank sa lugar ko I decided na dito na lang ako sa banko na ito kasi authorized sya ng PayPal to handle transactions sa kanila. During the interview I was asked about my sources of income and the interviewer asked me if I am involved with Bitcoin and similar things and I honestly said yes but pointed out that this account is for PayPal and not for cryptocurrency transactions.

I was specifically told na bawal pala daw ang mag-deposit ng pera na galing sa Bitcoin o cryptocurrency na ang ibig sabihin bawal mag encash sa Coins.Ph at ipa-deposit sa account mo sa Security Bank... ang pwede eh yung kanilang eGiveCash na cashless withdrawal. Ang reason na binigay ng interviewer is that the Central Bank has warned them about Bitcoin and similar business transactions as banks are not authorized to handle the same and if ever I am caught depositing or sending money from Bitcoin encashment to my account then the bank can forfeit the same money that's why the warning.

Totoo rin ata to sa iba pang bangko lalo na yung mga sikat at malalaki though I was able to deposit money to my Metrobank account before from Coins.Ph. Siguro itanong ko rin ito sa coins.ph ano ba talaga ang clear situation...

Had the same issue sa BDO few months ago. I tried opening an account sa kanila (davao branch) at ganun din yung tanong; saan daw galing yung pera ko dahil kapag may connection daw sa bitcoin, pupwede daw nila e close yung account. 'Di ko na tinuloy yung balak ko sa BDO, dun nalang ako sa BPI, but they asked the same question. So, I lied para 'lang makapag-bukas ako ng account.  Grin No point on being honest with these guys kung anytime pupwede nila e-close yung account mo just because connected ito with cryptocurrencies.
Ginagawa ko din yan nung nagpa bukas ako ng bank account ko at sabi nila saan daw yung pera ko galing, Kaya alam naman natin na kailangan natin mag ingat kaya mag sinungaling nalang tayo para may account na tayo sa bangko. Hirap kasi kapag sasabihan mo na galing sa crypto kasi di ka nila pag bibigyan.

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Nuong nakaraan araw ay nagtangka din akong mag bukas ng account sa parehong bangko, Security bank at sinabi nilang hindi sila nag-oopen ng account kung ang funds dito ay magmumula sa crypto. Sinabi nilang High Risk daw ang usaping crypto at hindi daw ito pinapayagan ng Bangko Sentral kung walang kaukulang dokumento na nagpapatunay na galing sa legal ang pera, hindi din nila tinatanggap ang blockchain network records online. Kung other sources of income siguro ay pwede pa pero kung galing sa crypto ay mukhang malabo at ang masama pa ay maaaring ma hold ang funds mo at mahihirapan kang mag withdraw kung sakaling malaki na ang iyong naideposito.

So, ang tinatanggap lang pala nila ay iyong mga galing sa sariling bulsa at mga nag-invest sa crypto? Pero kung galing sa Bounties at Airdrop ang kita sa Crypto hindi nila tatanggapin? Hmmm.

Nagbigay pala ako ng mensahe sa anim na sikat na mga banko gamit ang facebook ngunit apat lamang ang nagreply. Hindi nagbigay ng detalye ang metrobank at unionbank. Basahin sa ibaba ang kanilang mga reply. Palagay ko mahigpit ang patakaran ng Bangko Sentral sa Cryptocurrency. Better to lie nalang para makapag-open ng account.

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October 14, 2018, 01:29:45 PM
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Gusto ko lang mag comment about this Sir, hindi po totoong pinag babawal ng Central Bank ang anumang activities about cryptocurrency, yung interviewer lang po siguro ang medyo ignorante about dun, sa katunayan, UnionBank, Security Bank, BDO ay nakikipag coordinate na po sa mga iba't ibang blockchain entities dito sa bansa natin, maging ang Central Bank din po ay nakikipag ugnayan na din patungkol sa mga cryptocurrencies.

sa experience ko bro it is not about the interviewer kasi unang una di sila gagawa ng actions lalo na kung walang basehan kaya para sakin kung ano man yung naging action nung interviewer e tlagang may basehan kasi nangyare na yan dati sakin na sinabi ko na yung source ng income ko e nanggagaling sa bitcoin di nila ako pinayagan mag open ng account nung nalaman yun. Pwede kang mag cash in sa mga kilalang banks pero di ka pwedeng mag open ng accts lalo na kung yung source ng income mo e crypto kasi di nila pwedeng idetect yun at iniiwasan nila yung fraud na kung saan pwede kang mag labas pasok ng malalaking amount ng pera sa acct mo.
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October 14, 2018, 01:43:50 PM
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Gusto ko lang mag comment about this Sir, hindi po totoong pinag babawal ng Central Bank ang anumang activities about cryptocurrency, yung interviewer lang po siguro ang medyo ignorante about dun, sa katunayan, UnionBank, Security Bank, BDO ay nakikipag coordinate na po sa mga iba't ibang blockchain entities dito sa bansa natin, maging ang Central Bank din po ay nakikipag ugnayan na din patungkol sa mga cryptocurrencies.
Reading the quote from above, @OptimusFries meron bang source na nakikipag ugnayan na ang Central Bank? Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas din ang tinutukoy diba? I know I have read somewhere na meron silang winowork out about cryptocurrency whether or not they would accept.

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sa experience ko bro it is not about the interviewer kasi unang una di sila gagawa ng actions lalo na kung walang basehan kaya para sakin kung ano man yung naging action nung interviewer e tlagang may basehan kasi nangyare na yan dati sakin na sinabi ko na yung source ng income ko e nanggagaling sa bitcoin di nila ako pinayagan mag open ng account nung nalaman yun. Pwede kang mag cash in sa mga kilalang banks pero di ka pwedeng mag open ng accts lalo na kung yung source ng income mo e crypto kasi di nila pwedeng idetect yun at iniiwasan nila yung fraud na kung saan pwede kang mag labas pasok ng malalaking amount ng pera sa acct mo.
Probably they have past experiences with cashing out money and it was coming from a cryptocurrency fund or something. I think ganiyan pa lang yan for now but as the future of Bitcoin, being adapted by a lot of people, is getting brighter. Marami na ang natututo, hopefully madami din ang knowledgable. Sana lang hindi sila mang scam or be scammed.

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October 14, 2018, 01:57:39 PM
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I think depende talaga yan kung saang branch ka mag oopen ng bank account, dito kasi sa amin nag try ako mag open ng bank account sa PNB tapos tinanong ako ng interviewer kung saan nangaling ang source of income ko since wala naman akong trabaho so sinabi ko ka agad na bitcoin/crypto ang source ng income ko, sabi ng interviewer pwde daw ako mag open ng bank account nila kahit sa crypto ang source of income ko.
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October 14, 2018, 02:02:04 PM
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Nangyari na sakin ito, at kinabahan ako sa nakita ko na nakasulat sa tabi  pangalan ko. Ang naka sulat ay "money laundering" kasi malaking pera yung pinasok sa account ko na walang sapat na dahilan kung saan galing at saan gagamitin.

So ang ginawa ko, kinausap ko yung kaibigan ko na ikakasal at the same time bumili rin ng kotse. Kaya naabswelto ako sinabi ko lang na sa account ko pinadaan yung pera nya.
Pero yung hilight ng money laundering sa name ko ay Hindi nawala.
So yun pina blocked ko nalang account ko.
Tinanong din ako kung sa crypto currency galing yung pera. Ang sinagot ko hindi., kasi alam kong mag kaka problema.
Ngayon hindi ko alam kung papano ng Gagawin ko if ever may dadating o ilalabas akong pera na may kalakihan.
Kung sa coins.ph naman baka ma reach ko yung limit ng withdrawal at deposit.
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