SCAM ALERT!! LUCKYGAMES - 50 Billion Bets Placed Myth Exposed

[JollyGood]

The scammers are telling everybody they have had more than 50 billion bets placed on their luckygames scammer website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.msg46776914#msg46776914

So why is luckygames website a scam?

They claim a staggering 50 billion bets have been placed in the 2 years since their gambling website was launched but when I asked if their claims could be independently verified their replies were too defensive as though they had something to hide so so I did some Jollygood investigating. After I posted my findings the luckygames scammers locked their thread  

50 billion bets in 745 days = over 67 million bets being placed each and every day
67 million bets a day = 2.79 million bets being placed each and every hour
2.79 million bets placed an hour = 46,500 bets being placed each and every minute
46,500 bets being placed every minute = 775 bets being placed each and every second

When I challenged the scammers at luckygames to the fact they they by their own admission claim in 2 years they have had 50 billion bets so I did some Jollygood investigating  

By their own admission in the thread that they locked (because I exposed them earlier today) they stated they have been operating for 2 years which equates to around 730 days but these luckygames scammers registered the domain name luckygames.io 745 days ago. I made some calculations and decided to give them the 15 days on top of their claim.

Can anybody even imagine the server configuration and costs associated with running an operation of that magnitude? To have 775 bets placed a second, each and every second, day after day and day after day while always having a minimum of 1500 concurrent users every second, each and every second, day after day and day after day (according to the luckygames scammers closed thread) will need a powerful configuration of both file server scaling and database scaling. These scammers have got no idea

The lack of activity on your forum suggests they are not a widely used website: https://forum.luckygames.io

Add to that their 1600 Twitter followers does not give confidence luckygames scammers are telling the truth that they have 46,000 bets being placed every hour because there is no demand for their scam website: https://twitter.com/luckygamesio

On 21st September 2018 I made this post in the now locked luckygames scam thread but they could not give any appropriate reply: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.msg45994011#msg45994011

"I just visited the Luckygames website for the first time today after seeing it in a signature.

Please can a representative of Luckygames explain the following:

- Why is there no cookie notification?
- Why is Luckygames not GDPR European Law compliant?
- What is the LTD/LLC registered company name that owns Luckygames?
- What is the LTD/LLC registered company address?
- What is the LTD/LLC registered company contact number and email address?
- What is the the legal jurisdiction Luckygames is governed by?
- What are the KYC/AML policies Luckygames adheres to?
- Where is the Privacy Information page? (The TOS shows no privacy information)

Many thanks"

Would you trust a gaming website that does not even have an About Us and in their ToS does not even mention the name, address and contact details of the gambling company that can be sued in the event a user wants to take them to court? Just as the case wikth Dean Nolan and his betking scam the moment you ask questions they start to avoid answering and instead start play acting like immature brats.

Please avoid using scam gambling websites such as betking and luckygames. Thank you.

(I have several scammers and their paid agents on IGNORE, that is why users might not see me replying to all posts)

[actmyname]

In defense of the claim for bets, I just ran with a test account on the site (betting their "lucky" token with the lowest possible wager for 49.5% win rate) and the auto-betting at max acceleration was roughly 5 bets per second.

That's about equivalent to about 155 users running on auto. It's certainly not what I would expect in terms of traffic for the site but not outrageously far-fetched.

Add in. too, the surge in traffic that comes whenever they run their giveaways.

[Myyrf]

In defense of the claim for bets, I just ran with a test account on the site (betting their "lucky" token with the lowest possible wager for 49.5% win rate) and the auto-betting at max acceleration was roughly 5 bets per second.

That's about equivalent to about 155 users running on auto. It's certainly not what I would expect in terms of traffic for the site but not outrageously far-fetched.

Add in. too, the surge in traffic that comes whenever they run their giveaways.

Also for that betting part:
You can run multiple bet games same time. I know there are Twitch streamers that run some martingale systems 24/7 with multiple auto-betting.

[JollyGood]

In defense of the claim for bets, I just ran with a test account on the site (betting their "lucky" token with the lowest possible wager for 49.5% win rate) and the auto-betting at max acceleration was roughly 5 bets per second.

That's about equivalent to about 155 users running on auto. It's certainly not what I would expect in terms of traffic for the site but not outrageously far-fetched.

Add in. too, the surge in traffic that comes whenever they run their giveaways.

For them to be claiming 50 billion bets placed in 2 years is pushing the fantasy boat out a bit too far though

[LoyceV]

Luckygames' scamming is well-documented in their red trust. I don't think the number of bets is even relevant.

That's about equivalent to about 155 users running on auto. It's certainly not what I would expect in terms of traffic for the site but not outrageously far-fetched.

Agreed. It doesn't prove or disprove anything, other than that the site had about 49.9 billion dust bets from faucet players.

[JollyGood]

Luckygames' scamming is well-documented in their red trust. I don't think the number of bets is even relevant.

That's about equivalent to about 155 users running on auto. It's certainly not what I would expect in terms of traffic for the site but not outrageously far-fetched.

Agreed. It doesn't prove or disprove anything, other than that the site had about 49.9 billion dust bets from faucet players.

The stats luckygames claim to achieve are beyond a joke. They should have scaled their exaggeration down to several hundred million then maybe people would have believed it.

[marlboroza]

775 bets being placed each and every second

That is not correct.
Look, go to their site and check bet counter. Refresh page every second and you will see that number is few thousand bigger every time you refresh page. Everything seems fine.

They should have scaled their exaggeration down to several hundred million then maybe people would have believed it.

Why? Every bet counts, it doesn't matter faucet, giveaway, tip, rain or deposit - the same goes for every casino.

Luckygames' scamming is well-documented in their red trust. I don't think the number of bets is even relevant.

I concur.

[JollyGood]

775 bets being placed each and every second

That is not correct.
Look, go to their site and check bet counter. Refresh page every second and you will see that number is few thousand bigger every time you refresh page. Everything seems fine.

They should have scaled their exaggeration down to several hundred million then maybe people would have believed it.

Why? Every bet counts, it doesn't matter faucet, giveaway, tip, rain or deposit - the same goes for every casino.

Luckygames' scamming is well-documented in their red trust. I don't think the number of bets is even relevant.

I concur.

If you believe they have had over 50 billion bets placed on luckygames in 745 days then you are entitled to do so but I do not buy in to it.

The refreshing of the page means nothing because the website owners are showing what they want to show users, whether it is true or not is another matter entirely.

I asked them if their information could be independently verified and posted some figures but they shut their thread down.

[yahoo62278]

If they can verify they have 50 billion bets then I would probably tag you for starting a fake scam thread without doing your research.

I'm fine with a user opening a scam accusation if there is a legit scam happening but opening an accusation without proof is malicious towards a site. Any site, not just luckygames.

It's great to see users looking out for the community but have your facts in order is all I'd like to see

[JollyGood]

If they can verify they have 50 billion bets then I would probably tag you for starting a fake scam thread without doing your research.

I'm fine with a user opening a scam accusation if there is a legit scam happening but opening an accusation without proof is malicious towards a site. Any site, not just luckygames.

They cannot verify it, they said so themselves in the final post they made in the luckygames thread they locked when I brought it to their attention.

[yahoo62278]

If they can verify they have 50 billion bets then I would probably tag you for starting a fake scam thread without doing your research.

I'm fine with a user opening a scam accusation if there is a legit scam happening but opening an accusation without proof is malicious towards a site. Any site, not just luckygames.

They cannot verify it, they said so themselves in the final post they made in the luckygames thread they locked when I brought it to their attention.

My bad then, carry on with the good work

[marlboroza]

If you believe they have had over 50 billion bets placed on luckygames in 745 days then you are entitled to do so but I do not buy in to it.

The refreshing of the page means nothing because the website owners are showing what they want to show users, whether it is true or not is another matter entirely.

I asked them if their information could be independently verified and posted some figures but they shut their thread down.

Do this:
Pick one random bet and verify it. Refresh. Pick another random bet and verify it.

Just don't be surprised when you see ridiculous very small bets like this one for example:



Add high roll speed to that and you will get the picture.

They cannot verify it, they said so themselves in the final post they made in the luckygames thread they locked when I brought it to their attention.

Well, you can verify last 5 billion bets. I believe bet number https://luckygames.io/bet/44710988612/ was made on September 17. It means, every second approximately 2000 bets have been placed.

[JollyGood]

@marlboroza

Thank you for the post.

If their stats of 50 billion bets placed can be fully or even partially independently verified then that would be excellent. Following the format you suggested might be a way to move forward but it seems all that information is coming from the database and there is no way of knowing if it is genuine or not.

In the example you gave the figures are hard to believe: https://luckygames.io/bet/48710988612/

Look at the user: aruba42 it shows they are active since 18 days and have alone placed over 7.7 million bets. That means over 429,000 bets placed a day. That means over 17,900 bets placed an hour. That means over 298 bids placed a minute.



I have received a PM from luckygames. I appreciate them reaching out to me, I will respond to them with the same courtesy and try to clear this up.

If they have not exaggerated their stats then without a doubt I will apologise to them and remove the Scam Alert from my signature and close this thread but I doubt that will happen unless they can at least somehow show the stats they claim have some substance other than what is being shown on their website.

Thank you marlboroza for your concern on this matter.

[LoyceV]

In the example you gave the figures are hard to believe: https://luckygames.io/bet/48710988612/

Look at the user: aruba42 it shows they are active since 18 days and have alone placed over 7.7 million bets. That means over 429,000 bets placed a day. That means over 17,900 bets placed an hour. That means over 298 bids placed a minute.

From what I've seen in online casino's, this is completely normal. Faucet and chat rains keep many small players online, it keeps the chat alive at relatively low cost for the owner. These numbers match actmyname's 5 bets per second test.
I guess you're not very familiar with what happens in online casino's: someone gets a small amount of Doge, sets up a Martingale bot starting with very low bets (0.00000001 Doge), high multiplier (roll under 2), and small increase on loss. Put this on auto, and you indeed get a few million bets per week.
I'd say try it to convince yourself. I have no problem believing any site can get tens of billions of spam bets.

[JollyGood]

In the example you gave the figures are hard to believe: https://luckygames.io/bet/48710988612/

Look at the user: aruba42 it shows they are active since 18 days and have alone placed over 7.7 million bets. That means over 429,000 bets placed a day. That means over 17,900 bets placed an hour. That means over 298 bids placed a minute.

From what I've seen in online casino's, this is completely normal. Faucet and chat rains keep many small players online, it keeps the chat alive at relatively low cost for the owner. These numbers match actmyname's 5 bets per second test.
I guess you're not very familiar with what happens in online casino's: someone gets a small amount of Doge, sets up a Martingale bot starting with very low bets (0.00000001 Doge), high multiplier (roll under 2), and small increase on loss. Put this on auto, and you indeed get a few million bets per week.
I'd say try it to convince yourself. I have no problem believing any site can get tens of billions of spam bets.

Thank you for the post and input.

I replied to the PM I received from luckygames asking them to help find a way forward. They have not yet replied but if it they do with a few statements about their set up then even though I remain skeptical I will remove the Scam Alert from my signature and close the thread.

What would help go a long way is if they were address the following too because if a website it handling the sort of traffic and sort of income they claim, the users must have protection:

- Why is there no cookie notification?
- Why is Luckygames not GDPR European Law compliant?
- What is the LTD/LLC registered company name that owns Luckygames?
- What is the LTD/LLC registered company address?
- What is the LTD/LLC registered company contact number and email address?
- What is the the legal jurisdiction Luckygames is governed by?
- What are the KYC/AML policies Luckygames adheres to?
- Where is the Privacy Information page? (The TOS shows no privacy information)

[JollyGood]

Is Luckygames still scamming or have they sorted themselves out yet?

[joksim299]

Is Luckygames still scamming or have they sorted themselves out yet?

I never heard that they scammed anybody except the case where one user found a way to play game with positive outcome every time, that clearly wasn't proper way to handle the situation.
Except that they do have that amount of bets. Bets are extremely fast and they do not have minimum bet.

[deepaksharma]

Oh I just read it now,anyway the site is dead now

[JollyGood]

What sot of nonsense are you spouting?

Checking your posting history shows you post any incoherent text for the sake of posting, definitely not one to take seriously.

Oh I just read it now,anyway the site is dead now