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November 06, 2018, 04:02:18 AM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

Honestly, bull markets can simply be caused by the market becoming excited.

A lot of the reason why last year's bull market was so large in magnitude was indeed because of the fear of missing out factor within it, and also the fact that everyone within the market seemed to be extremely optimistic during that stretch of time. That itself does not need any causes because of the cycles that are within the market.

The bitcoin halving could also play a role, though, with the block rewards becoming scarcer. Of course, there must be new adopters to fuel this long term growth which I think it's fair to say we're seeing right now despite the bear market, with both individuals and corporations.
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November 06, 2018, 06:05:32 AM
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A bull run might occur when there are good rumors and developments, but when there are no good developments it will make the conditions of the exchange very difficult to do a bull run. wait until the end of this year there might be a bull run activity.
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November 07, 2018, 07:49:32 AM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

Honestly, bull markets can simply be caused by the market becoming excited.

A lot of the reason why last year's bull market was so large in magnitude was indeed because of the fear of missing out factor within it, and also the fact that everyone within the market seemed to be extremely optimistic during that stretch of time. That itself does not need any causes because of the cycles that are within the market.

The bitcoin halving could also play a role, though, with the block rewards becoming scarcer. Of course, there must be new adopters to fuel this long term growth which I think it's fair to say we're seeing right now despite the bear market, with both individuals and corporations.
This is basically a pillar to any building that the users are quite confident on their source. Just make a random and common-sense analysis on market and ask yourself why the market start dropping so quickly whenever prices are disturbed little bit. Your answer would be the impatience and untrust worthiness of users on market. They start losing their minds and hence selling at moment.
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November 07, 2018, 07:45:27 PM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.
Most of the time a bull market is the result of several things happening at the same time, so it is entirely possible that the next bull market is going to begin because of the next halving that is going to happen in 2020 but it's possible that one of the reasons that is going to feed the next bull market is going to be the weakness of the whole economic system.
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November 07, 2018, 10:36:24 PM
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To have a certain conclusions for this topic here, only biggest and wealthiest investors can fuel the bull run. No one else's will help us attain the target we want for. Our whales are just waiting for the perfect timing to ride on the unpredictable market, and I expect more greater progress this month and so on.

 
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November 07, 2018, 10:43:42 PM
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I am sure that by 2019 there will be more investors to invest in bitcoin, and I am sure that will trigger the next bull. many people put their hopes in 2019, including myself.

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November 08, 2018, 01:54:19 AM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

It would still be the old investors who are waiting for the time that they have accumulated enough and those who are waiting for the market to show signs that buyers are back. If the price would be doing good then new investors will come in as well especially if the price would continue to go up resulting to it being attractive to the new people in the ecosystem.

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November 08, 2018, 02:43:54 PM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

It would still be the old investors who are waiting for the time that they have accumulated enough and those who are waiting for the market to show signs that buyers are back. If the price would be doing good then new investors will come in as well especially if the price would continue to go up resulting to it being attractive to the new people in the ecosystem.
Of course the old investors will make the market more aggressive, but the main factors are the fear of missing out people will panic and buy bitcoin more that causes the price to spikes.
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November 08, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
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The only genuine stable fuel if we are talking in that context is actual population usage of BTC not the speculative activity on exchanges.   If everyone is second guessing everyone else I dont see it adding upto a proper bull run.

Best way to predict the future would be of calm analysis of the past, so BTC has had this kind of bull run many times and mostly I would argue it was based around rising awareness and some usage of BTC.  
Very ironic last year was the higher transaction costs at the same time as the BTC price rising, that was some strange feedback effect I think.   As someone with a longer term view I'm much more optimistic for BTC now with usable fees and development to the network to allow normal usage and the price is secondary to utility development but in theory we see higher price with a wider accessible population and distribution of uses.

I guess it will take time to filter through though, some people say the real time scale will be around the next halvening which is ages away (ETA 560 days).   I will point at Dollar index for some indication to BTC gradient moving forward

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November 09, 2018, 06:35:03 AM
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The only genuine stable fuel if we are talking in that context is actual population usage of BTC not the speculative activity on exchanges.   If everyone is second guessing everyone else I dont see it adding upto a proper bull run.

Best way to predict the future would be of calm analysis of the past, so BTC has had this kind of bull run many times and mostly I would argue it was based around rising awareness and some usage of BTC.  
Very ironic last year was the higher transaction costs at the same time as the BTC price rising, that was some strange feedback effect I think.
 

What was "ironic" there? It was expected. The higher Bitcoin goes in fiat value, the higher the fees are in fiat in satoshis per byte.

Plus hype also drives up the demand, and fees, to use a space in a Bitcoin block. We should expect this again in the next bull run.

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As someone with a longer term view I'm much more optimistic for BTC now with usable fees and development to the network to allow normal usage and the price is secondary to utility development but in theory we see higher price with a wider accessible population and distribution of uses.

Segwit did help, to some people's denial.

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I guess it will take time to filter through though, some people say the real time scale will be around the next halvening which is ages away (ETA 560 days).   I will point at Dollar index for some indication to BTC gradient moving forward

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560 days is "ages" away? That's less than two years. Cool

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November 09, 2018, 08:57:06 AM
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I am sure that by 2019 there will be more investors to invest in bitcoin, and I am sure that will trigger the next bull. many people put their hopes in 2019, including myself.

The bull run will happen soon whether at the end of this year or in the next year. Right now, I think there is a new investor who came to the bitcoin and buys a lot of bitcoin. They know that they have a chance to buy bitcoin at a low price and they learn from the history that bitcoin price will always increase at the higher price. So they don't want to miss the chance to buy bitcoin at the low price, hold it for a while, sell it when the bull comes.

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November 09, 2018, 10:11:24 AM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

I don't know, we will never know. the market grows because buyers and sellers are mainly limited supply. with the current progress, especially for the Q4 plan for many ico, it might trigger market growth and this also affects bitcoin.

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November 09, 2018, 04:48:08 PM
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To have a certain conclusions for this topic here, only biggest and wealthiest investors can fuel the bull run. No one else's will help us attain the target we want for. Our whales are just waiting for the perfect timing to ride on the unpredictable market, and I expect more greater progress this month and so on.
I do not agree that the only way for a new bull market to appear is for the wealthiest investors to get in the market, there is another way and that is that bitcoin goes through a phase of huge adoption and millions of people begin to invest in it even if every single investor is very small compared to the wealthiest investors, if you pull them all together they could fuel a new bull run.
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November 13, 2018, 06:46:44 PM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.
I am not one of those that think that a bull market is going to happen soon, it is probably going to take a few years for us to see a new bull market but it is likely that what we are going to see is very similar to what happened at the end of 2017 in which we saw a combination of many positive news and factors that made people very positive about the future of bitcoin and the market of cryptocurrencies in general and this brought new investors and their money.

The next bull market is probably going to happen when a new advancement in the technology of bitcoin is made and then institutional money decides that this is the perfect moment to invest in this new industry and that makes the price of bitcoin to skyrocket.
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November 13, 2018, 08:03:00 PM
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Probably the one that they have been talking is the halving part or the ETF and bakkt but these two projects are not yet sure if it will going to make a change to the market because it seems that something is stopping it, specially the ETF. So i wouldn't expect too much of the bull run this year because there's no clear and good sign that it will going to happen.
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November 14, 2018, 05:19:22 AM
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In my perception, the next bull run will be initiated by a mass migration. I can observe people getting fruestrated with FUD about bitcoin that now they are looking for a more useful coin to transact with. The second in line ready to take on BTC is the forked version -- BCH. BCH had been on a good pricing lately and this is slowly catching the attention of crytomigrants. If this will continue to make a roar, then we might be seeing a slow death for BTC.
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November 14, 2018, 08:34:20 AM
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In my perception, the next bull run will be initiated by a mass migration. I can observe people getting fruestrated with FUD about bitcoin that now they are looking for a more useful coin to transact with. The second in line ready to take on BTC is the forked version -- BCH. BCH had been on a good pricing lately and this is slowly catching the attention of crytomigrants. If this will continue to make a roar, then we might be seeing a slow death for BTC.

BCH has had the worst time among altcoins as it has been getting dumped hard all year long and it has not yet stopped. recently there is a new airdrop for it called bitcoin SV which they are going to give away free money to whoever holds any BCH that is why there was a small price pump since people were rushing to buy it to get that free money airdrop. otherwise there is no "catching attention" here! it is still the same useless altcoins as it has always been.

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November 15, 2018, 09:23:24 AM
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Many people expect there will be another bull run in the more or less near future. But who, whose money, what will be the fuel for next bull run? New investors? Smart money? Why? Do elaborate, I am very curious to know your thoughts.

People's money will fuel the next bull run. This could be a one united of bitcoin enthusiast (whales, shark, newbies, FOMO) to push the price higher. I think this only need a good news that will ignite the market and the right timing.

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November 16, 2018, 06:25:10 AM
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In my perception, the next bull run will be initiated by a mass migration. I can observe people getting fruestrated with FUD about bitcoin that now they are looking for a more useful coin to transact with. The second in line ready to take on BTC is the forked version -- BCH. BCH had been on a good pricing lately and this is slowly catching the attention of crytomigrants. If this will continue to make a roar, then we might be seeing a slow death for BTC.

BCH has had the worst time among altcoins as it has been getting dumped hard all year long and it has not yet stopped. recently there is a new airdrop for it called bitcoin SV which they are going to give away free money to whoever holds any BCH that is why there was a small price pump since people were rushing to buy it to get that free money airdrop. otherwise there is no "catching attention" here! it is still the same useless altcoins as it has always been.
Sometimes the prediction we made just based on our own mindset could harm other people as well. So here, we need good and positive vibes. Please try to promote bitcoin rather to demolish it.
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