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October 22, 2018, 07:44:10 AM
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"If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry." -Satoshi Nakamoto

Satoshi Nakamoto was on a mission. He made this very clear with his direct messages on this forum, always straight to the point in order to not waste time that he could spend improving the Bitcoin code. This quote is from a message Satoshi sent to the now founder of Bitshares in response to a comment on Bitcoin scalability.

I am agreed and convinced with the thought of Mr. Satoshi since I have done a lot of study on his this project. Just out of curiosity want to know your thought regarding his this quote.

Thanks for your time.
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October 22, 2018, 07:54:06 AM
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I really think this is very specific and just like what you have said Satoshi is very straight to the point regarding this matter, If people would not believe him with his blockchain technology then he would not care at all and move on with it, Just like in some cases you are introducing bitcoin to your friends some would surely agree and some would not, and others would not be interested in a sort of things, Well you can not please all of them about bitcoin.
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October 22, 2018, 09:33:50 AM
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He us a very precise man (could be a woman or group of people but for clarity I refer to him as man)

Undertaking the creation of a decentralized protocol is quite a brave venture. As most people prefer to be cozy in the presumed safety of centralization.
And he was also brilliant.
He didn't need to convince people with fancy words like most investment options, but with the finished product.

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October 22, 2018, 09:51:58 AM
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"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

If Satoshi had stopped to explain to every single person who didn't get it, they never would have got anything done.  Sometimes you just have to get on with it and allow for other people to get there on their own.  The opportunity is there, but if people choose not to take it, that's up to them.

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October 22, 2018, 10:56:31 AM
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"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

If Satoshi had stopped to explain to every single person who didn't get it, they never would have got anything done.  Sometimes you just have to get on with it and allow for other people to get there on their own.  The opportunity is there, but if people choose not to take it, that's up to them.

Agreed with you. Basically, people are confused about the technology and I believe that blockchain is not so easy to understand and therefore fear rise on their mind. But understanding and believing the term who have accept cryptos, are going higher and higher. But i believe that faith on crypto is must to be gainer in this market.
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October 22, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
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"If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry." -Satoshi Nakamoto

Satoshi Nakamoto was on a mission. He made this very clear with his direct messages on this forum, always straight to the point in order to not waste time that he could spend improving the Bitcoin code. This quote is from a message Satoshi sent to the now founder of Bitshares in response to a comment on Bitcoin scalability.

I am agreed and convinced with the thought of Mr. Satoshi since I have done a lot of study on his this project. Just out of curiosity want to know your thought regarding his this quote.

Thanks for your time.

You or satoshi might not have the time, but I don't think this is something we should generally adopt as a rule. Sometimes people don't have the time and energy to explain things and that's fine if you don't, but if we all did this it would be terrible for adoption. If someone comes up to me and asks me about bitcoin then I'll do my best to explain it to them and as impartially and balanced as I can. I won't tell them it's a guaranteed investment and I'll explain the risks involved because it sure is risky. If they're still totally clueless or still don't care then I might give up at some point as everyone has limits but I've always got a bit of time to promote bitcoin as I can see why it's a great invention and hopefully many more people can if they're just educated about it.

I think satoshi's comments where more of: here's my idea like it or not, I don't have time or need to persuade you. You've got to remember satoshi has a life outside of bitcoin and obviously didn't want much to do with it once it was off the ground and running. Maybe he didn't want to go too much into things for security reasons as well. The more you talk the more evidence you leave behind of who you are and that's something he was obviously very weary of. 
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October 22, 2018, 12:34:05 PM
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My opinion is that, in reality, Satoshi Nakamoto might not have been who he said he was. Perhaps it was not one person and perhaps he carried out the mission that he was assigned to perform certain world forces. There is an opinion that this was a group of programmers. Maybe it was.

It doesn't really matter who satoshi really is; the only thing of importance is that Bitcoin is as real as it can be, and it's helping people obtain the freedom they otherwise would never have.

That's why I am glad he left and never came back again to bother with development. Don't get me wrong, my respect for him is sky high, but I'm pretty certain that at this point he would form a problematic factor for Bitcoin itself rather than a positive one. Ethereum is the perfect example of how lead developers not willing to part with their project are slowing down the rate of growth, and at the same time keep delaying scaling solutions as if it isn't that important.

Vitalik rolled back the chain with minority agreement, openly admitted to write hard forks if he's forced to do so, etc. No thanks.
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October 24, 2018, 01:33:23 AM
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Sstoshi has said nothing wrong there. Considering the number of people out there in the world it will be impossible to explain to every soul who will fail wrap his or her mind around the concept of crypto currency, and it will also hamper the advancement of Cryptocurrency. Besides, not all the people out there will be interested in the crypto even after they understand everything. So, such effort would have been futile and pointless.
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October 24, 2018, 02:18:12 AM
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You can explain what bitcoin really is and what potential it holds for the future. But you really can not convince anyone who does not believe in it. It is totally normal as not everyone sees the bigger picture.
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October 24, 2018, 02:32:53 AM
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I agree with satoshi. Those who have doubts about bitcoin in the first place for sure regret that they just ignored the technology that satoshi offered and introduced. There's no need for him to fully ellaborate the technology for it's very hard to comprehend technically to someone that is not interested about it.

After few years the usefulness and benefits of this technology slowly sinks in to those skeptic and narrow minded haters and eventually some were converted and even invested into crypto for future profits.

This technology is not that easy to comprehend if your not really sparing much of your time understanding everything.
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October 24, 2018, 03:12:26 AM
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"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

If Satoshi had stopped to explain to every single person who didn't get it, they never would have got anything done.  Sometimes you just have to get on with it and allow for other people to get there on their own.  The opportunity is there, but if people choose not to take it, that's up to them.

in my opinion, it is not so much about explaining to every single person individually. that obviously is impossible. it is about explaining it once to best of your abilities and then when some people still resist understanding it then you can't do anything about that. as we say bitcoin is decentralized and permissionless. which works both ways. if someone doesn't want bitcoin then we don't force them to accept/use it.

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October 24, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
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Agreed with him. If someone has the interest in bitcoin, then he will inquire about it and invest in it in his own accord and the risk will be his choice. But those who don't believe in this sector can't be convinced that easily. Even if they joins the business and faces any loss, they will blame the person who convinced him. So the straight declaration is totally legit.
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October 24, 2018, 09:12:50 AM
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Why waste time on people who are looking for something to complain about to shake your ideas. "You can not wake a person who is not sleeping".

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October 24, 2018, 09:22:56 AM
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This stability is great. People from 2 years ago who wouldn’t let me show them Bitcoin, are willing to use its ease as a currency. Plus Segwit is being implemented.

Bitcoin is evolving. Soon Segwit will be 100% (it’s inevitable) and technologies like Lightning will build off Segwit. Everyone will be able to run a node! It was smart to keep bitcoin at 1mb. Developers stepped up and continue to.

Bitcoin will be the most decentralized crypto coin. Btrash will fade away with the rest. Everyone can’t run a full btrash node cause cause it’s too large. I just use a laptop for my node. Everyone will be able to verify the rules on their own.

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October 24, 2018, 09:34:05 AM
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This stability is great. People from 2 years ago who wouldn’t let me show them Bitcoin, are willing to use its ease as a currency. Plus Segwit is being implemented.

Bitcoin is evolving. Soon Segwit will be 100% (it’s inevitable) and technologies like Lightning will build off Segwit. Everyone will be able to run a node! It was smart to keep bitcoin at 1mb. Developers stepped up and continue to.

Bitcoin will be the most decentralized crypto coin. Btrash will fade away with the rest. Everyone can’t run a full btrash node cause cause it’s too large. I just use a laptop for my node. Everyone will be able to verify the rules on their own.


The value of bitcoin is that it is backed by men with computers.

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October 24, 2018, 09:42:54 AM
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I guess none of us can judge a sentence that Satoshi says about Bitcoin. Satoshi knew the best development path about bitcoin.
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October 24, 2018, 09:51:14 AM
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This is very specific and just like what you've said Satoshi is very straight to the point regarding this matter. Undertaking the creation of a decentralized protocol is quite a brave venture.
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October 24, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
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I really think this link is the conversation was Satoshi used that thought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306

they were talking about the speed of the transaction, so Satoshi refer to his snack machine thread that the payment processor could verify well enough, I really think Satoshi made a great line if he's not able to convince him then it is up to him, Well many don't believe in Satoshi's vision of a decentralized currency and a secure and fast transaction that he is giving to them, And pursue his idea with traditional banking.
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October 24, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
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it's actually simple, I only spend time on something I know, believe and love to do. Also, I try to learn new things till a certain point, if I feel, that certain thing is not my thing, I stop wasting time on that, maybe that is good, maybe that is bad, but I only value my time. Anything can be good, but I am not deep into that, I skip that. Maybe satoshi wanted to say that people having too less time to learn, adopt and embrace new things like Blockchain, should mind in their own business.
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October 24, 2018, 09:48:42 PM
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Many investors in bitcoin are very worried about this, that he has a lot of skeptics and haters. But I also don't see any point in convincing them that bitcoin is not a Scam. Over time, everything will become clear and they will see that the blockchain is a worthwhile technology.

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