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February 08, 2019, 02:03:13 AM
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The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it. I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.

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February 08, 2019, 06:12:33 AM
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The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it.
This is easier said than done, if we only know their action then we could easily follow.
It's still a lot of guessing since whales are smart, and they don't want to get notice on what they are doing.
I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
Even if they do, we have no idea, but I think in order for you to become whales, you need to have the power to move the market
and they could also be in different direction sometimes, so we cannot expect it's easy to follow them as one may loss and the other may win.

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February 08, 2019, 06:32:43 AM
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yes, I see whales do not have indicators or even don't use them, they only rely on the large funds they have to move prices in the direction they want.
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February 08, 2019, 07:52:24 AM
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The actions of the whales forms the market sentiments which drive the market to any direction which they desired. Trade aids (indicators) helps when there are no major actions from the market markers(whales) but the movement will then be ranging and not trending. This will result in a small profit for all your effort.
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February 08, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
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The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it. I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
It cannot be said with full confirmation that whales are the reason for every pump and dump or any collusion. Several hedge funds are making the market move when there is a certain trend that is being followed. This trend is set by the news that goes into the social media and in case you follow then you will also become aware of them. In general do not buy a coin which you have never heard of and reached 500% gains in one day on coinmarketcap charts. Those are obvious pumps which will be dumped or already has been dumped by the time you login to your exchange.

It is presumed that whales are behind these huge movements but to what extent is still a mystery and something these get revealed but with a lot of speculation.

 
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February 08, 2019, 12:36:41 PM
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yes, I see whales do not have indicators or even don't use them, they only rely on the large funds they have to move prices in the direction they want.
- I don't think so, I believe whales still need indicators, they need to know the trading volume and the number of coins the user is accumulating, and from there, they can build traps to push others into their nets. They can not rely solely on large amounts of money and change their prices according to their wishes because this market is so big, many whales, they always fight each other every day, just a little bit of mistakes, other whales can cause them to take a lot of damage, using and analyzing indicators is essential for all their plans to be perfect and achieve the highest profit


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February 08, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
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yes, I see whales do not have indicators or even don't use them, they only rely on the large funds they have to move prices in the direction they want.
- I don't think so, I believe whales still need indicators, they need to know the trading volume and the number of coins the user is accumulating, and from there, they can build traps to push others into their nets. They can not rely solely on large amounts of money and change their prices according to their wishes because this market is so big, many whales, they always fight each other every day, just a little bit of mistakes, other whales can cause them to take a lot of damage, using and analyzing indicators is essential for all their plans to be perfect and achieve the highest profit
You got it right man!

Even myself would do the same thing even I'm a whale investor.You cant just rely with your financial capability because risk of losing big amounts would be still there.You cant act as you please on what would be the results and as you said that there is also other whales lurking which do only waits for the right opportunity to move.If you do made such reckless actions then there would always be a price.

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February 08, 2019, 01:17:24 PM
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The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it. I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
I don't know what they are waiting for? if they influence the market or can manipulate the market, why don't they do it now?
is whales really rest right now ? so that makes marketcaps go down very deep?
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February 08, 2019, 01:36:12 PM
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The only thing whales are waiting for is that they sell at least 80% of the bitcoin, there were many who bought bitcoin in 19k, and do not want to sell them in 3.5k, if that does not happen, the price will go down, it's simple, they are the strong hands they will never buy expensive.

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February 08, 2019, 01:56:10 PM
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The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins.  This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis.  The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.


The whales is for the group the of rich people's to afford buy huge of coins in cryptocurrency marketcap to manipulate the marketcap price small investors can't do that.

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February 08, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
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The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins.  This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis.  The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.
The market moves either bullishly or bearishly along the lines of supply and demand. Just let plants moving towards sunlight for survival, so does the market to the big money. The whales call the shots and so shouldn't care what indicators individual "ant" traders use.

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February 08, 2019, 03:22:49 PM
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it is not entirely true they need to see market trend and read all the chart because you have to understand if some holder is whale in one coin it can't be whale in other coin,but as they have huge amount of crypto so they can manipulate easily but in order to show other trader that chart reading skill is working they have to follow the trend and pump and dump according to it.
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February 08, 2019, 03:45:25 PM
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it is not entirely true they need to see market trend and read all the chart because you have to understand if some holder is whale in one coin it can't be whale in other coin,but as they have huge amount of crypto so they can manipulate easily but in order to show other trader that chart reading skill is working they have to follow the trend and pump and dump according to it.

By this forum and some people looks like whales are like superheros, they move the billion dollar market as they like, they don`t need indicators, water of food. People with a lot of coins can affect market more than others, their orders can create temporary trends but not every time. Pump and dump schemes are orchestrated by big groups, the bigger the group is more easier they can pump some coin, but when it comes to dump just the ones on the top make good profit, others very little and some end up with zero worth coin!

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February 08, 2019, 04:04:07 PM
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even though they are whales who have a lot of capital but when they want to buy coins, they must also see some graphs and indicators to find out the most appropriate position to buy and sell coins.
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February 08, 2019, 04:39:43 PM
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undeniable but true. all they need is to get together and decide when to hit the market. it is a well executed plan by them and believe it, if you are lucky when this pump is about to be made. you will get rich.  you are made. they pump the market when they feel they ave spend enough and they need to recover what was lost. i believe that one day, i will get here.
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February 08, 2019, 05:49:18 PM
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I think whales the following trend every time, They act like a hammer breaking strong support and resistance levels for the continuing long run bear or bull market.
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February 08, 2019, 06:49:27 PM
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Whales are holding huge amount so they can create the market condition,so no need for them to follow the trend.But still the the whales are in the market? Why not much of price movements in the past month.
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February 08, 2019, 09:46:36 PM
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Rules of the game are different for whales but it doesn't mean that they should not care about anything, they still can loose money and it happens more often that we can think that is. And I really think that it's harder to be a whale. Their techanalysis is without any indicators, they read the actual price action. Besides, they should keep in mind that there are big consequences from every operation.
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February 08, 2019, 10:56:15 PM
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The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins.  This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis.  The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.
Definitely have gotten ideas about that when I came to understand how the market is been controlled by the whales they don't need any chart analysis. And also the amateur traders tends to fall in their traps.
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February 09, 2019, 06:23:52 AM
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I think the whales still need indicators because they want to follow the market and every move of the price. I am sure that the whales still want to make a bigger profit than the other people and maybe they can play the price in any price they want, but still, they need the indicators to determine which way they want to moves. Without indicators, they cannot move the price into the price they want, and I am sure that the price will go up and down too deep without any control.



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