Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN

[Moloch]

@TEC, by a few years ago, did you mean two years ago, around the time Trump took office? This is around the time Antifa became openly active.

Yes, Exactly. Now you are going to tell me that the words he used incited ANTIFA to violence therefore he is responsible, while ignoring hundreds of calls for violence on the left since then, as well as increasing, regular violence from the left. That damn Trump, upsetting people so much they get violent! You know its his fault they got so upset they punched an old lady. She was clearly a Nazi so it was ok.

Problem is... I tried fact checking 2 of the outrageous claims in your image... and both of them were bullshit, so I assume the rest of that list is bullshit too...

I checked on your claim, "regular violence from the left... they punched an old lady"... "2 Minnesota GOP candidates attacked and punched"... the facts:

A Minnesota republican claims to have been punched while at dinner... no pictures, just a claim of assault... Fox News never even said the attacker was a leftist, liberal, or any of that, so I can safely assume he was not since they 100% would have mentioned it if he was...
http://www.fox9.com/news/two-minnesota-gop-candidates-say-they-were-attacked-punched

The woman claiming to be attacked... was attacked by a self-proclaimed anarchist... also not a leftist, liberal, or whatever
http://www.fox9.com/news/two-minnesota-gop-candidates-say-they-were-attacked-punched


I also checked on your claim that "ricin" was sent to several prominent GOP figures... this is false too... a "threat" of sending ricin was sent... nothing dangerous was actually sent by this guy... he sent a letter with some ground up beans in it, not deadly ricin... facts matter when you claim assassination attempts
https://www.dailywire.com/news/37684/utah-man-charged-sending-ricin-white-house-emily-zanotti


You want to nitpick on whether these bombs were assembled or not... but you don't even bother to fact-check your own claims about ricin vs powdered beans... come the fuck on man... show some intellectual honesty

[TECSHARE]

Problem is... I tried fact checking 2 of the outrageous claims in your image... and both of them were bullshit, so I assume the rest of that list is bullshit too...

I checked on your claim, "regular violence from the left... they punched an old lady"... "2 Minnesota GOP candidates attacked and punched"... the facts:

A Minnesota republican claims to have been punched while at dinner... no pictures, just a claim of assault... Fox News never even said the attacker was a leftist, liberal, or any of that, so I can safely assume he was not since they 100% would have mentioned it if he was...
http://www.fox9.com/news/two-minnesota-gop-candidates-say-they-were-attacked-punched

The woman claiming to be attacked... was attacked by a self-proclaimed anarchist... also not a leftist, liberal, or whatever
http://www.fox9.com/news/two-minnesota-gop-candidates-say-they-were-attacked-punched


I also checked on your claim that "ricin" was sent to several prominent GOP figures... this is false too... a "threat" of sending ricin was sent... nothing dangerous was actually sent by this guy... he sent a letter with some ground up beans in it, not deadly ricin... facts matter when you claim assassination attempts
https://www.dailywire.com/news/37684/utah-man-charged-sending-ricin-white-house-emily-zanotti


You want to nitpick on whether these bombs were assembled or not... but you don't even bother to fact-check your own claims about ricin vs powdered beans... come the fuck on man... show some intellectual honesty

Cool story bro. Convenient you can write it all off. What about the years of violent attacks before just this month? You can attribute attacks on the left to the right and even specific people on the right, but when the right is attacked we need "proof" huh? I like the touch of calling the "ricin" a "threat", but these nonfunctional props are "bombs" and he is a "bomber" in spite of nothing even exploding or even appearing to have been the intent (again not justifying it, just a fact).

It is almost like you see your own hypocrisy then directly accuse me of exactly the dissonance you are experiencing, before I even directly point it out, in order to force a 3rd party to experience your own dissonance for you via projection. Nah...couldn't be.  

Wikipedia... that's... that's impressive. You just totally convinced me. FYI, talking about attacks on people because of their politics, not attacks made by people of a certain political bend... but I know any edge you can use to blur the facts you will exploit in a vain attempt to make an argument you don't have.

[Moloch]

Problem is... I tried fact checking 2 of the outrageous claims in your image... and both of them were bullshit, so I assume the rest of that list is bullshit too...

I checked on your claim, "regular violence from the left... they punched an old lady"... "2 Minnesota GOP candidates attacked and punched"... the facts:

A Minnesota republican claims to have been punched while at dinner... no pictures, just a claim of assault... Fox News never even said the attacker was a leftist, liberal, or any of that, so I can safely assume he was not since they 100% would have mentioned it if he was...
http://www.fox9.com/news/two-minnesota-gop-candidates-say-they-were-attacked-punched

The woman claiming to be attacked... was attacked by a self-proclaimed anarchist... also not a leftist, liberal, or whatever
http://www.fox9.com/news/two-minnesota-gop-candidates-say-they-were-attacked-punched


I also checked on your claim that "ricin" was sent to several prominent GOP figures... this is false too... a "threat" of sending ricin was sent... nothing dangerous was actually sent by this guy... he sent a letter with some ground up beans in it, not deadly ricin... facts matter when you claim assassination attempts
https://www.dailywire.com/news/37684/utah-man-charged-sending-ricin-white-house-emily-zanotti


You want to nitpick on whether these bombs were assembled or not... but you don't even bother to fact-check your own claims about ricin vs powdered beans... come the fuck on man... show some intellectual honesty

Cool story bro. Convenient you can write it all off. What about the years of violent attacks before just this month? You can attribute attacks on the left to the right and even specific people on the right, but when the right is attacked we need "proof" huh? I like the touch of calling the "ricin" a "threat", but these nonfunctional props are "bombs" and he is a "bomber" in spite of nothing even exploding or even appearing to have been the intent (again not justifying it, just a fact).

It is almost like you see your own hypocrisy then directly accuse me of exactly the dissonance you are experiencing, before I even directly point it out, in order to force a 3rd party to experience your own dissonance for you via projection. Nah...couldn't be.  

Wikipedia... that's... that's impressive. You just totally convinced me.

I was simply pointing out the fact that you claimed the bombs were fake, but the ricin is real... this is not hypocrisy on my part, it was your claim not mine... I never made a claim of any kind

Also, if someone gives me a list of bullshit claims, and I fact-check 2 of them... and both of those claims are false and/or unsubstantiated... what should I assume about the other dozen claims on the list?

[TECSHARE]

Yes, why address the substance of the point, the years of leftist violence against the right, when you can avoid it with side topics?

I was simply pointing out the fact that you claimed the bombs were fake, but the ricin is real... this is not hypocrisy on my part, it was your claim not mine

Also, if someone gives me a list of bullshit claims, and I fact-check 2 of them... and both of those claims are false and/or unsubstantiated... what should I assume about the other dozen claims on the list?

I dunno. People who actually give a shit usually don't have to be told what to do about it.

[Moloch]

Yes, why address the substance of the point, the years of leftist violence against the right, when you can avoid it with side topics?

Because you haven't shown me any evidence of it... a list of bullshit claims that has been debunked is not evidence

Never mind the fact that YOU brought up leftist violence as a "side topic", not me... do you even realize how much of yourself you project onto others, so you can blame them for your own actions?  (self-aware much?)

If you want to debate with me, bring facts to the table, not bullshit propaganda that is so easily debunked and dismissed

[TECSHARE]

Yes, why address the substance of the point, the years of leftist violence against the right, when you can avoid it with side topics?

Because you haven't shown me any evidence of it... a list of bullshit claims that has been debunked is not evidence

Sorry, not sorry

If you want to debate with me, bring facts to the table, not bullshit propaganda that is so easily debunked

Hey, if you have no argument, just pretend the facts aren't there and continue to live in your bubble of preferred alternate reality. No one really believes the left haven't been violent against conservatives on nearly a daily basis since 2016, except people like you running around punching "nazis" of course.

Yep... none of this ever happened... go back to sleep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDwoWscEOTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthHHX-oJh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU-kIunAVRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSjIOHvdlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw9kyYEwg2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyHB0COkw3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRUF5FIIeVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIMomsIsfRE

YOU brought up leftist violence as a "side topic", not me... do you even realize how much of yourself you project onto others, so you can blame them for your own actions?  (self-aware much?)

If you want to debate with me, bring facts to the table, not bullshit propaganda that is so easily debunked and dismissed

You mean the side topic of the left pointing at Trump and conservatives in general and blaming their "rhetoric" for these attacks? The point (which I am sure you will promptly ignore) was that the media was silent about violence from the left directed at the right, and furthermore stoked it. Now they want to point fingers. A lot of you stood silent as these things happened. Guess what... this is the result... we all live in violence.

[Moloch]

If you want to talk about left-wing terrorism vs right-wing terrorism... there is no contest... simply check wikipedia:

The wikipedia article for Left-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of a single paragraph ending with:

(...) After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.

The wikipedia article for Right-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of 5 paragraphs ending in a list of 38 items since 2003, mostly murders and mass murders:

See also: Domestic terrorism in the United States
(...)
New America's tally shows that since September 11, 2001, incidents of right-wing extremism have caused 86 deaths. Incidents causing death were:
(...)
(check link if you care)

[TECSHARE]

If you want to talk about left-wing terrorism vs right-wing terrorism... there is no contest... simply check wikipedia:

The wikipedia article for Left-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of a single paragraph ending with:

(...) After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.

The wikipedia article for Right-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of 5 paragraphs ending in a list of 38 items since 2003, mostly murders and mass murders:

See also: Domestic terrorism in the United States
(...)
New America's tally shows that since September 11, 2001, incidents of right-wing extremism have caused 86 deaths. Incidents causing death were:
(...)
(check link if you care)

As predicted, you don't care to have a debate, you would rather inject other side topics over and over again. Why? because you know you have no argument, so you have to manufacture an opinion for me for you to defeat. The left has no grounds calling for blame over rhetoric let alone violence based on the past several years of their own behavior.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-30/brief-history-leftist-political-violence-year

[Moloch]

If you want to talk about left-wing terrorism vs right-wing terrorism... there is no contest... simply check wikipedia:

The wikipedia article for Left-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of a single paragraph ending with:

(...) After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.

The wikipedia article for Right-Wing Terrorism in the united states consists of 5 paragraphs ending in a list of 38 items since 2003, mostly murders and mass murders:

See also: Domestic terrorism in the United States
(...)
New America's tally shows that since September 11, 2001, incidents of right-wing extremism have caused 86 deaths. Incidents causing death were:
(...)
(check link if you care)

As predicted, you don't care to have a debate, you would rather inject other side topics over and over again. Why? because you know you have no argument, so you have to manufacture an opinion for me for you to defeat. The left has no grounds calling for blame over rhetoric let alone violence based on the past several years of their own behavior.

I'm not the person dragging this off-topic... This thread is about right-wing terrorism, and you are the only person dragging it off-topic.  You dragged it so far off-topic that the moderator had to remove your bullshit and move it to another thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061049.0

How many Americans have been killed by left-wing terrorists?  My research says the number is zero... do you have a different number?

[Flying Hellfish]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061049.0

The thread is a bit of a mess in terms of off topicness.  I am guilty of it as are lots of others so lets bring it back a bit on topic.

The above topic was split for off topic discussion, talk about whatever you want about left and right wing extremism there please.

Lets try to keep the focus at least a little bit on the topic.

[TECSHARE]

Funny, as the details come out about this suddenly, like the Kavanaugh accusers recanting, this is also a non-story once it stops serving your political goals.

[Flying Hellfish]

Funny, as the details come out about this suddenly, like the Kavanaugh accusers recanting, this is also a non-story once it stops serving your political goals.

If you would provide whatever new details have emerged perhaps we could comment on them. I haven't heard much with all the MT stuff and would be very interested in actual information and not infowars type stuff.

Last I heard he was being extradited to New York.

[TECSHARE]

Funny, as the details come out about this suddenly, like the Kavanaugh accusers recanting, this is also a non-story once it stops serving your political goals.

If you would provide whatever new details have emerged perhaps we could comment on them. I haven't heard much with all the MT stuff and would be very interested in actual information and not infowars type stuff.

Last I heard he was being extradited to New York.

You know, like little details such as the fact none of the "bombs" were ever capable of exploding.

[Spendulus]

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You know, like little details such as the fact none of the "bombs" were ever capable of exploding.

Look, be reasonable. There was only a couple of weeks before the mid terms. It was important to fit as many lurid stories in as possible. And given how stupid the media and elite Left think the American population is, they would never have more than one or two going at a time. Plus of course a couple of drum rolls in the background, good and repetitive.

"Russia..."

"Pussy Grabber..."

[popcorn1]

I wonder when we will get to hear from the guy who done it..

I still thinks it was a set up AND cnn DON LEMON said it was a white guy who did the pipe bombs when he was CUBAN and bankrupt and NUTS ..

Do not vote the DEMS in they will spin lies to your face..

[TECSHARE]

BREAKING: PATSY BOMBER Body Cam POLICE VIDEO; Cesar Sayoc In Florida: Full Video & Analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_xyPl12EdI

I don't know much about this guy, but he does raise some interesting points.

[bluefirecorp_]

He also reportedly had tears in his eyes during the hearing, where he was read the following charges: interstate transportation and illegal mailing of explosives, threatening a former president, making threatening interstate communications and assaulting federal officers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cesar-sayoc-court-live-pipe-bomb-cnn-trump-bomber-democrat-package-new-york-update-latest-a8606951.html

==

Sayoc is an amateur bodybuilder and ardent supporter of President Donald Trump who pushed far-right conspiracy theories online.

Lol, seems like some of the users here, except for the whole "bodybuilder" portion. 

[TECSHARE]

He also reportedly had tears in his eyes during the hearing, where he was read the following charges: interstate transportation and illegal mailing of explosives, threatening a former president, making threatening interstate communications and assaulting federal officers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cesar-sayoc-court-live-pipe-bomb-cnn-trump-bomber-democrat-package-new-york-update-latest-a8606951.html

==

Sayoc is an amateur bodybuilder and ardent supporter of President Donald Trump who pushed far-right conspiracy theories online.

Lol, seems like some of the users here, except for the whole "bodybuilder" portion. 

Notice none of those charges include "weapons of mass destruction" the standard charge applied to anyone who creates a functional explosive device...

[bluefirecorp_]

He also reportedly had tears in his eyes during the hearing, where he was read the following charges: interstate transportation and illegal mailing of explosives, threatening a former president, making threatening interstate communications and assaulting federal officers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cesar-sayoc-court-live-pipe-bomb-cnn-trump-bomber-democrat-package-new-york-update-latest-a8606951.html

==

Sayoc is an amateur bodybuilder and ardent supporter of President Donald Trump who pushed far-right conspiracy theories online.

Lol, seems like some of the users here, except for the whole "bodybuilder" portion. 

Notice none of those charges include "weapons of mass destruction" the standard charge applied to anyone who creates a functional explosive device...

No shit dumbfuck. He didn't send a weapon of mass destruction.

Notice how is say "illegal mailing of explosives" That's the standard charge for anyone illegal mailing explosive devices.

[TECSHARE]

He also reportedly had tears in his eyes during the hearing, where he was read the following charges: interstate transportation and illegal mailing of explosives, threatening a former president, making threatening interstate communications and assaulting federal officers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cesar-sayoc-court-live-pipe-bomb-cnn-trump-bomber-democrat-package-new-york-update-latest-a8606951.html

==

Sayoc is an amateur bodybuilder and ardent supporter of President Donald Trump who pushed far-right conspiracy theories online.

Lol, seems like some of the users here, except for the whole "bodybuilder" portion. 

Notice none of those charges include "weapons of mass destruction" the standard charge applied to anyone who creates a functional explosive device...

No shit dumbfuck. He didn't send a weapon of mass destruction.

Notice how is say "illegal mailing of explosives" That's the standard charge for anyone illegal mailing explosive devices.

We have already been over this once smart guy, you know I sourced the law. Why are you going to make yourself look dumb arguing this again?