Mailing without doxing

[owlcatz]

I only use USPS since its my favorite branch of government, and they are the only ones who give a damn if your package goes missing. I have things delivered to people all of the time using names that aren't their's. I've sent packages to about 50 different Chiefs, various animals, and a few very smart babies. The only time that you need to show ID via USPS is if you elect to pick up the package from the post office rather than having it delivered. Maybe with registered mail as well, but first class/priority put whatever name you'd like.

Possible exception:

If packages are sent "Restricted Delivery", they require ID as it must be only delivered to the person on the package. (I had to show my ID to the local postman once when smoothie sent me coins).

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[CodeBaseGuy]

Much usefull info here! Thanks a lot!

[anonymousminer]

USPS FTW!!  My post office is happy to help in anyway.  They are happy to still have a job.  Support your USPS!!

[krogothmanhattan]

To be honest...

For high valued items..i pick personally..no matter where they are. Would not trust ANY carrier.

  For  medium valued items..especially overseas..I use Fedex next day.

   For all others registered USPS. But I do have to say...the tracking sucks big time..i have had registered items stuck in sorting centers for up to three weeks while i tore my hair off trying to find it and spending hours on the phone with no luck. Nightmares really as i have had a reg item dissapear in an ISC facility and nobody giving a damn.

   Another time it said it arrived in my po box...was also left a notice for pick up..then nobody could find it! 

     Thats my experience..perhaps others have had better luck.

[owlcatz]

To be honest...

For high valued items..i pick personally..no matter where they are. Would not trust ANY carrier.

  For  medium valued items..especially overseas..I use Fedex next day.

   For all others registered USPS. But I do have to say...the tracking sucks big time..i have had registered items stuck in sorting centers for up to three weeks while i tore my hair off trying to find it and spending hours on the phone with no luck. Nightmares really as i have had a reg item dissapear in an ISC facility and nobody giving a damn.

   Another time it said it arrived in my po box...was also left a notice for pick up..then nobody could find it!  

     Thats my experience..perhaps others have had better luck.

No, I really think that is normal - Registered USPS is SLOW AF..... I was told by numerous USPS people it's because each registered mail package has to kept under lock and key the entire distance. So, assuming this is all MANUAL, that would account for the  tracking slowness....  

Edit - I have to assume it's some sort of internal "chain-of-custody" .....

[krogothmanhattan]

To be honest...

For high valued items..i pick personally..no matter where they are. Would not trust ANY carrier.

  For  medium valued items..especially overseas..I use Fedex next day.

   For all others registered USPS. But I do have to say...the tracking sucks big time..i have had registered items stuck in sorting centers for up to three weeks while i tore my hair off trying to find it and spending hours on the phone with no luck. Nightmares really as i have had a reg item dissapear in an ISC facility and nobody giving a damn.

   Another time it said it arrived in my po box...was also left a notice for pick up..then nobody could find it!  

     Thats my experience..perhaps others have had better luck.

No, I really think that is normal - Registered USPS is SLOW AF..... I was told by numerous USPS people it's because each registered mail package has to kept under lock and key the entire distance. So, assuming this is all MANUAL, that would account for the  tracking slowness....  

Edit - I have to assume it's some sort of internal "chain-of-custody" .....

Yes I understand that and dont mind how slow it is..but when an item is said to be at my post office AND a notice is left IN my PO BOX AND cannot be found...THAT IS DISTURBING.

[owlcatz]

Yes I understand that and dont mind how slow it is..but when an item is said to be at my post office AND a notice is left IN my PO BOX AND cannot be found...THAT IS DISTURBING.

Oh I certainly agree there - I have had that happen as well, but I chalk it up to the 3 or 4 bumbling old fools running my local post office (rural)... I always got my packs though! Did they find yours ever?

[krogothmanhattan]

Yes I understand that and dont mind how slow it is..but when an item is said to be at my post office AND a notice is left IN my PO BOX AND cannot be found...THAT IS DISTURBING.

Oh I certainly agree there - I have had that happen as well, but I chalk it up to the 3 or 4 bumbling old fools running my local post office (rural)... I always got my packs though! Did they find yours ever?

 Eventually they did after me harrassing the hell out of em....but that pissed me off. 

 The one in ISC postal customs was registered mail and was never found.

[digicoinuser]

I'm not sure if ALL USPS PO's allow a secondary name since I had tried to use my forum name and it got rejected (RTS).  From what I've read for my local PO, I could use a registered business name that I own, although I didn't see anything that would allow me to use my user name and PO mailing details.  Some PO's are different and allow aliases, not mine but aliases are allowed for home mailing addresses from my experience as well.

I agree with Krog's issues with Registered tracking, very odd how sometimes it seems like it's on time but it's actually delayed and no employee can find where it is.   

[owlcatz]

Same here Digi - I actually asked them if I could use another name on the PO box, but they said no, it has to be my name, not even initials will work. I think you are right, all po's are slightly different. I could probably use a business address as well if I desired, but having the convenience of picking up FedEx/UPS signed packed makes it worth it alone to me. As for the form to add people on "the form", they only allow REAL people who have ID if needed, even if it's a business   ....

[krogothmanhattan]

I'm not sure if ALL USPS PO's allow a secondary name since I had tried to use my forum name and it got rejected (RTS).  From what I've read for my local PO, I could use a registered business name that I own, although I didn't see anything that would allow me to use my user name and PO mailing details.  Some PO's are different and allow aliases, not mine but aliases are allowed for home mailing addresses from my experience as well.

I agree with Krog's issues with Registered tracking, very odd how sometimes it seems like it's on time but it's actually delayed and no employee can find where it is.   

Digi....ask them for a form to add another name to the PO BOX.  Thats all I had to do. They made me aware of it when i experimented withva diff name and the mail was returned. When i asked them why returned they said you need to fill out a form. Bingo!

[owlcatz]

I'm not sure if ALL USPS PO's allow a secondary name since I had tried to use my forum name and it got rejected (RTS).  From what I've read for my local PO, I could use a registered business name that I own, although I didn't see anything that would allow me to use my user name and PO mailing details.  Some PO's are different and allow aliases, not mine but aliases are allowed for home mailing addresses from my experience as well.

I agree with Krog's issues with Registered tracking, very odd how sometimes it seems like it's on time but it's actually delayed and no employee can find where it is.  

Digi....ask them for a form to add another name to the PO BOX.  Thats all I had to do. They made me aware of it when i experimented withva diff name and the mail was returned. When i asked them why returned they said you need to fill out a form. Bingo!

Is it Form 1093? That's the one that requires any other names to have valid id's - at least in my state. ....

[CanaryInTheMine]

Thanks for the great help everyone!!      I figured people here would have had some experience with this...  my wife thinks I'm super paranoid LOL.  I tell her that my level of paranoia is the bare minimum for crypto...

You aren’t paranoid. There are members here that have used personal information to extort and harass users of these forums. You are very justified in your thinking.

Definitely can confirm this!!

[krogothmanhattan]

I'm not sure if ALL USPS PO's allow a secondary name since I had tried to use my forum name and it got rejected (RTS).  From what I've read for my local PO, I could use a registered business name that I own, although I didn't see anything that would allow me to use my user name and PO mailing details.  Some PO's are different and allow aliases, not mine but aliases are allowed for home mailing addresses from my experience as well.

I agree with Krog's issues with Registered tracking, very odd how sometimes it seems like it's on time but it's actually delayed and no employee can find where it is.  

Digi....ask them for a form to add another name to the PO BOX.  Thats all I had to do. They made me aware of it when i experimented withva diff name and the mail was returned. When i asked them why returned they said you need to fill out a form. Bingo!

Is it Form 1093? That's the one that requires any other names to have valid id's - at least in my state. ....

No..that form is to apply for a po box. I dont recall the forms name as they just handed it to me ..i filled out right there and then and signed. Then all they told me was another name will be added to my box. That simple. Ask them to add another name and see what they say.  And no didn't have to show my forum name on an ID.

[owlcatz]

I'm not sure if ALL USPS PO's allow a secondary name since I had tried to use my forum name and it got rejected (RTS).  From what I've read for my local PO, I could use a registered business name that I own, although I didn't see anything that would allow me to use my user name and PO mailing details.  Some PO's are different and allow aliases, not mine but aliases are allowed for home mailing addresses from my experience as well.

I agree with Krog's issues with Registered tracking, very odd how sometimes it seems like it's on time but it's actually delayed and no employee can find where it is.  

Digi....ask them for a form to add another name to the PO BOX.  Thats all I had to do. They made me aware of it when i experimented withva diff name and the mail was returned. When i asked them why returned they said you need to fill out a form. Bingo!

Is it Form 1093? That's the one that requires any other names to have valid id's - at least in my state. ....

No..that form is to apply for a po box. I dont recall the forms name as they just handed it to me ..i filled out right there and then and signed. Then all they told me was another name will be added to my box. That simple. Ask them to add another name and see what they say.  And no didn't have to show my forum name on an ID.

Pretty sure they'll hand me a paper 1093 - they already told me no aliases or fake names would not work, but I'll give it a try and let you all know

[digicoinuser]

I'll keep an eye on the outcome, in my situation everything was similar to owlcatz's experience although it never hurts to ask again. 

[phishead]

I actually just got a PO Box last week and I definitely don’t remember any options of writing down other aliases to use for the box. I remember that the form (I actually think it was 1093) had space where you could write down a list of people who you are authorizing to come pick up stuff from your box... maybe I could’ve written down “phishead” on that, but I would never have thought that would’ve worked since I’m providing other personal documents like my passport and lease statement to prove identity and place of residence.

My question is, if you’ve already signed and paid for your PO Box, is there a way to edit in your alias possibly? Or would you have to wait until your contract ends and you apply again?

[krogothmanhattan]

I actually just got a PO Box last week and I definitely don’t remember any options of writing down other aliases to use for the box. I remember that the form (I actually think it was 1093) had space where you could write down a list of people who you are authorizing to come pick up stuff from your box... maybe I could’ve written down “phishead” on that, but I would never have thought that would’ve worked since I’m providing other personal documents like my passport and lease statement to prove identity and place of residence.

My question is, if you’ve already signed and paid for your PO Box, is there a way to edit in your alias possibly? Or would you have to wait until your contract ends and you apply again?

I have had a PO box for over 10 years...and did not know that option existed until they todl me. It was just a simple form really not the one applying for new or renewal po box.

[Corrosive]

There is the option of having the mail sent to a friend's address who is less reluctant to divulge such information. From there you could simply go and pick it up, that way, both your name and address and kept away from the bitcointalk boogeymen 😊

[krogothmanhattan]

At post office right now...attempting to pick up an item that online says arrived at post office AND Available for Pickup.

     Guess what? They cannot find it!

     Not the first time. Neither will it be the last.

     Leaving empty handed