Active Shooting at Pittsburgh Synagogue 7+ dead already

[philipma1957]

7 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/

Anyone want to guess at the religion or political affiliation of the shooter?

I'm going to guess he was a Republican and a Christian... seems like an easy bet

Why trumps daughter is married to a Jewish guy.

So should not trump supporters like Jewish people?

Being a supporter of any politician isn't necessarily an all or nothing, lots of folks like Trump but don't like EVERYTHING he says or does.

Life is rarely black or white but more often a scale of some shade of grey...

As I suspected he was anti trump and did not like trump because trump has deals with Jews.

He was also not a left wing guy.

Nope he was your basic nut job with the mind to kill.

And armed with an automatic weapon due to nra’s policy of give everyone a gun it their right to bear arms.

Btw I do have 2 12 gauge shotguns so I am not anti gun.

I am anti assault weapon.

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[o_e_l_e_o]

There also hasn't been 275 mass shootings this year, you're using a source that is using a defination of 'mass shooting' that isn't close to what the FBI (or other places) use.

Check out this link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Differing_sources

Imagine being so desensitized to constant mass shootings that your argument degrades in to how you classify a mass shooting.

Still, instead of thinking about funding, oh I don't know, basic mental healthcare, I'm sure Trump and the GOP will just want more guns instead. Because more guns has worked so well in the past. Smart.

[TECSHARE]

There also hasn't been 275 mass shootings this year, you're using a source that is using a defination of 'mass shooting' that isn't close to what the FBI (or other places) use.

Check out this link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Differing_sources

Imagine being so desensitized to constant mass shootings that your argument degrades in to how you classify a mass shooting.

Still, instead of thinking about funding, oh I don't know, basic mental healthcare, I'm sure Trump and the GOP will just want more guns instead. Because more guns has worked so well in the past. Smart.

Yeah why let facts get in the way of a good emotional fit.

[suchmoon]

Looks like we all need to be armed all the time, just so we can protect ourselves. This should be fun... going to church wearing a gun.

We already have more guns than people. What exactly does "armed all the time" entail? Two guns per person? An assault rifle? A bazooka?

[Flying Hellfish]

Looks like we all need to be armed all the time, just so we can protect ourselves. This should be fun... going to church wearing a gun.

We already have more guns than people. What exactly does "armed all the time" entail? Two guns per person? An assault rifle? A bazooka?

I think folks need pill boxes out front of churches and all cars should be armed with roof mounted 50 cals so everyone is safe!

[TECSHARE]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Visible_minority_population

73% white for both. Am I missing something?

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Yeah why let facts get in the way of a good emotional fit.

Mmm, I love me some facts. (Click images for full size.)

Grinshteyn E, Hemenway D. Violent Death Rates: The US Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010. American Journal of Medicine. 2016;129(3):266-273. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26551975)

[Flying Hellfish]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Visible_minority_population

73% white for both. Am I missing something?

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

Why don't you take a look at what P.E Trudeau did in the late 60's and early 70's.  Really did you check the whole fucking country yourself.  Canada has a large vibrant Latino community.

https://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359963625/dozens-of-countries-take-in-more-immigrants-per-capita-than-the-u-s

[TECSHARE]

Yeah why let facts get in the way of a good emotional fit.

Mmm, I love me some facts. (Click images for full size.)

Grinshteyn E, Hemenway D. Violent Death Rates: The US Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010. American Journal of Medicine. 2016;129(3):266-273. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26551975)

Quite a convenient list there... using only comparatively tiny, mostly culturally homogeneous populations. As I explained earlier more urban centers means more crime. Interesting wording too on some of this also.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26551975

You notice it says violent death rates, not firearm homicides. What that means is anyone who is shot committing a crime, by police, people defending their homes, suicides, all these get included in this statistic. I am sure that doesn't skew that statistic AT ALL.


try this non selectively edited one:


Gee, seems much more reasonable in a global context.


"Kleck found that the number of defensive gun uses in the US was somewhere between 2.1 and 2.5 million per year, a huge multiple over the number of crimes involving firearms. Not the lower (though still significant number of 500,000) total that the CDC had claimed."

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/24c4/f535e8c05a916ecddd0c9c5ae20ec93f53bf.pdf

Guns save more lives than they take. Just brandishing a gun can be enough to save your life. You don't need to fire it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Visible_minority_population

73% white for both. Am I missing something?

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

Why don't you take a look at what P.E Trudeau did in the late 60's and early 70's.  Really did you check the whole fucking country yourself.  Canada has a large vibrant Latino community.

https://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359963625/dozens-of-countries-take-in-more-immigrants-per-capita-than-the-u-s

LOL, k. Good for you. I never said there were NO Mexicans there. Compared to the US though? Really are you gonna try to compare the Latino community of the US and Canada? Also is this your way of avoiding admitting Canada is way whiter than the US? BTW your prime minister wearing a funny costume doesn't count towards diversity.

[bluefirecorp_]

Who'd thunk that there's more crime in the undeveloped and low wage world than there is in the best country on earth?

Sometimes I believe most right-wingers lack critical thinking, and cling to misleading statistics and charts just because they backup confirmation bias.

[popcorn1]

What a beautiful country where anyone can buy a gun and spend his weekend relaxing by killing a few people.

Don't worry the retards will be in here shortly claiming if the victims just had their own guns they could have stopped him earlier.  Clearly the answer to stopping gun violence is to make sure MORE guns are in the hands of morons!!!!!  The US needs less religious people with fucking guns not more LOL.

TBH I am so decencitized to American mass shootings I don't even feel sorry for you guys anymore, it kind of sickens me to say that but FFS the solution is so simple and EVERY other country in the western democratic world has figured out the basic reality that less assault rifles and hand guns in the hands of the general public makes your country safer place to live...

It's you who is the retard..

I blame total capitalism   and the fact USA have many many guns there will be so many nut cases who thinks life is so poo that some thinks i will take some with me..

See USA say the words SOCIALISM like it's really bad   when they don't know what it mean 1 bit..

Capitalism will always be here because how do you have shops if no capitalism?..Everyone needs to capitalize to even give some back out..

Socialism means you capitalize then take more in taxes back off those who capitalized and give it for things like police army the poor roads schools..

Total capitalism means those that capitalize don't want to pay any taxes meaning less police less everything that your public needs who cannot afford stuffs..

Also means your streets go the ruin your city becomes a shit dump  while the rich live on many acres of land with trespassers will be shot OR buy an island so no one can go on it only who they choose..

Venezuela is not socialism    they have all the riches they need   they are getting stopped from selling their stuffs OR they could easy afford to buy everyone anything they wanted..  SO  stop talking poo  SOCIALISM  no it's not dictatorship  plus getting stopped from selling what they have to sell..<BIG DIFFERENCE ..

The elite have got everyone thinking SOCIALISM means that your lives will be really bad  but what they mean is less "SHARING"  but got you all thinking that sharing is being like Venezuela..

And because the USA don't want to share  those that have nothing that struggle in life your going to get some that will go really nuts..

Cocktail of guns   total capitalism   religion in many forms   the news lies for an agenda    that will make quite a few people go really crazy ..

And the point is don't you thinks these people in power know what will happen if you take funding from certain things THEY KNOW THE OUTCOME  but don't care as long as they get fed and their families do well  ..WE the masses are just cannon fodder..

NO MORE  bums..

[Flying Hellfish]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Visible_minority_population

73% white for both. Am I missing something?

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

It's a damn good thing white people don't count as immigrants...

[popcorn1]

And carrying on from above  the RICH ELITE pay politicians kickbacks and backhanders   to make total capitalism happen because they don't want to share..

If i was in power you would have no chance of getting away with it no chance ..Take your company but you will not be allowed on our markets if you don't pay the taxes
like poor mary earning £300 and getting taxed 25%  but massive companies paying 00.1% and they suck all the monies up ..

Only so much the government put out and if the elite suck it all up then not much left for everyone else ..  that will cause people to go crazy in many forms stealing murder
mental health   SO  blame those GREEDY people who don't like to share..

[suchmoon]

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

And what difference does that make?

[Flying Hellfish]

Nope he was your basic nut job with the mind to kill.

He was a right wing extremist nut job, denying that seems rather impossible...

[Spendulus]

....I'm sure Trump and the GOP will just want more guns instead. Because more guns has worked so well in the past. Smart.

More guns would definitely fix things.

For example, every "gun free zone" that attracts a maniac looking for a soft target could become a "make my day zone".

What is your problem with that, if any?

[suchmoon]

More guns would definitely fix things.

The US already has far more guns (per capita and in absolute numbers) than any other country. Why hasn't that fixed things?

And who could possibly still want a gun and not have one yet? Why wouldn't they just go to the nearest Walmart and get one?

[TECSHARE]

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

And what difference does that make?

It makes a difference because if you notice Hispanic/Laino is not on that list, meaning they weren't even counted by those numbers (or counted as white)... meaning we have at least 17% more minorities.

[suchmoon]

Yeah, the 17% of Hispanic/Latinos. They are often classified as white. Not a lot of Mexicans in Canada last time I checked.

And what difference does that make?

It makes a difference because if you notice Hispanic/Laino is not on that list, meaning they weren't even counted by those numbers... meaning we have at least 17% more minorities.

The 17% is across all races. White Hispanics is 11.3%.

But ok. Take Hispanics out of US firearms homicide counts. Does that make it look like Canada? Not even close.

Which white ethnic group you're gonna try next? Russians? Italians? Those damn Sopranos must be killing lots of people and making the US look bad.

[TECSHARE]

But ok. Take Hispanics out of US firearms homicide counts. Does that make it look like Canada? Not even close.

Which white ethnic group you're gonna try next? Russians? Italians? Those damn Sopranos must be killing lots of people and making the US look bad.

So Hispanics and Latinos are nothing but a white ethnic group now? I don't know if they would agree. It seems pretty commonly accepted they are part of "minority groups". Also this "making people look bad" is a pure projection of your own creation. I raised the fact that cultural and racial differences result in more violence, and this is not something more culturally homogeneous nations have to deal with. I raised the point that the USA is more diverse than Canada, then backed it up with statistics.

You have to try to cast this as a racist thing because you have no other good argument, and attacking rather than debating is all you know.