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November 01, 2018, 07:50:24 PM
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I want to share with you story about street gambling game from before WW2 war
It was a way to make money for smart guys from uptown area
Smart guys without incomes stream
Game was played on bazaar or straight on the street
It was very simple game.Three cards two of them were black and one was red red was wining one black were losing
Guy was presenting cards to gambler than he was mixing cards gambler was choosing one card trying to find red one

At first look it was very easy to find red one
And it was like that because casino  guy was allowing gambler to find red one
But he  knew gambling psychology and  he knew that gambler after first easy win will like to win more
So gambler was wining first attempt second or even third and was betting  bigger and bigger money
At some stage casino guy was mixing cards that way that it was very hard to find red card and gambler was losing
Finally smart guy was winner and gambler lost all money what he had in his pocket together with watch

But sometimes some smart guys was coming to play.He knew very well how it works
So he was showing himself like a newbie and when game entered  in final stage he was
the winner over casino guy


Do you know any historical popular game from your country your maybe forgotten already
maybe somebody from old generation told you about some old gambling game

Russian roulette was popular but there are not living gambler who can share story about that game

Or maybe you know some real unknown stories how gambler was able to win against cheating casino etc

 
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November 01, 2018, 09:26:18 PM
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So gambler was wining first attempt second or even third and was betting  bigger and bigger money
At some stage casino guy was mixing cards that way that it was very hard to find red card and gambler was losing
Finally smart guy was winner and gambler lost all money what he had in his pocket together with watch

Do you know any historical popular game from your country your maybe forgotten already
maybe somebody from old generation told you about some old gambling game

Russian roulette was popular but there are not living gambler who can share story about that game
I don't know any stories like that but yours reminded me of a question I was wondering about: why aren't casinos making the bets in favor of the player at first? They could then turn on this house edge thing and probability, but I am pretty sure that they would profit from it more than they'd lose. Would it be considered as cheating? I mean, if the casino is at first helping one to win and then just playing fair, I don't think anyone could accuse it. And even if people knew about that, they'd probably not be able to resist the temptation to keep playing.

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November 01, 2018, 09:44:35 PM
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So gambler was wining first attempt second or even third and was betting  bigger and bigger money
At some stage casino guy was mixing cards that way that it was very hard to find red card and gambler was losing
Finally smart guy was winner and gambler lost all money what he had in his pocket together with watch

Do you know any historical popular game from your country your maybe forgotten already
maybe somebody from old generation told you about some old gambling game

Russian roulette was popular but there are not living gambler who can share story about that game
I don't know any stories like that but yours reminded me of a question I was wondering about: why aren't casinos making the bets in favor of the player at first? They could then turn on this house edge thing and probability, but I am pretty sure that they would profit from it more than they'd lose. Would it be considered as cheating? I mean, if the casino is at first helping one to win and then just playing fair, I don't think anyone could accuse it. And even if people knew about that, they'd probably not be able to resist the temptation to keep playing.


That's why we have "provable fair" casinos these days. There is no way to exploit the human behavior with "Provable fair" method. Hence why you guys see all these deposit promotions etc. That's their new way to "exploit/lure" people in. I mean if you look at the moral of the story it was that the dude stopped betting at the right moment instead of letting his emotions take over and if you ask me its still valid today and will always be. Knowing when to stop pushing your luck is the only difference between a "good" gambler and a "bad" one.
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November 02, 2018, 07:48:44 AM
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I want to share with you story about street gambling game from before WW2 war
It was a way to make money for smart guys from uptown area
Smart guys without incomes stream
Game was played on bazaar or straight on the street
It was very simple game.Three cards two of them were black and one was red red was wining one black were losing
Guy was presenting cards to gambler than he was mixing cards gambler was choosing one card trying to find red one

At first look it was very easy to find red one
And it was like that because casino  guy was allowing gambler to find red one
But he  knew gambling psychology and  he knew that gambler after first easy win will like to win more
So gambler was wining first attempt second or even third and was betting  bigger and bigger money
At some stage casino guy was mixing cards that way that it was very hard to find red card and gambler was losing
Finally smart guy was winner and gambler lost all money what he had in his pocket together with watch

But sometimes some smart guys was coming to play.He knew very well how it works
So he was showing himself like a newbie and when game entered  in final stage he was
the winner over casino guy


Do you know any historical popular game from your country your maybe forgotten already
maybe somebody from old generation told you about some old gambling game

Russian roulette was popular but there are not living gambler who can share story about that game

Or maybe you know some real unknown stories how gambler was able to win against cheating casino etc


I am not that fond of reading books or doing research about gambling history, so I guess I have nothing to share from my country. But there is one game I know which is not played by new generations and that game is called "sunka". I don't know if it is used as a gambling game previously but for me it's a good duel mind and betting can be done while playing this game.

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November 03, 2018, 06:01:00 AM
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In my country the dice game leads back thousands of years. However this dice was not similar to the dice we play, it was a quite simple game and played all around the world in that time. You select either the odd number or the even number and bet on it.

There was no house edge and people did not had to have any upper edge over other people. You either select number one, three or five and the other dude will select two, four and six. It means when the dice is rolled whichever comes that dude wins.

This was quite common in roman empire as well and played in places called "aleatorium" which derives from "alea" which is dice.

There has been other ways people gambled at the times mostly notable gladiators and who will win but that "wager" was not like casino gambling, it was basically betting against each other.

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November 03, 2018, 11:12:09 AM
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Well, I am from the Philippines and I had read that in the time of Magellan in his voyage here in the Philippines, And in the accounts noted by Antonio Pigaffeta that he had already witnessed bets being placed on cockfights when his ship arrived in Palawan in 1521, And right now it is pretty common here and many Filipinos was being professionally inclined with this kind of platform gambling and I really think it is not really easy because you will need to take care of the cocks you will need to place on the pit, And it is pretty common here to breed cocks for cockfights and it is a popular past time in the Philippines.

And another historical gambling here is spider derby where often I see people would bring boxes of matchsticks or common boxes that would encase their spiders and this kind of gambling they will place the spiders each on the edge of the sticks then forced them to fight one another. Well, this is the common gambling game I experience in my country.
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November 03, 2018, 11:59:24 AM
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Well, I am from the Philippines and I had read that in the time of Magellan in his voyage here in the Philippines, And in the accounts noted by Antonio Pigaffeta that he had already witnessed bets being placed on cockfights when his ship arrived in Palawan in 1521, And right now it is pretty common here and many Filipinos was being professionally inclined with this kind of platform gambling and I really think it is not really easy because you will need to take care of the cocks you will need to place on the pit, And it is pretty common here to breed cocks for cockfights and it is a popular past time in the Philippines.

I'm not really sure though, I thought that cock fighting in the Philippines was a Spanish influence. So its really hard to see Philppines into cock fighting prior to Magellan's arrival, but I might be wrong.

And another historical gambling here is spider derby where often I see people would bring boxes of matchsticks or common boxes that would encase their spiders and this kind of gambling they will place the spiders each on the edge of the sticks then forced them to fight one another. Well, this is the common gambling game I experience in my country.

Its still being played and I even heard that in prison cells, this sort of gambling was a favourite past time amongst those convicted.

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November 03, 2018, 01:21:03 PM
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Like the documentary that I have seen,the past stories that I got from ancient game predecessors used a coin and are still being used by the "head tail".Well it looks easy there are only two parts of head or tail but an intelligent person has the trick of throwing coins,he finally brings victory and the day after he opens the trick to other gamblers.Throwing is now done differently to show fairness.

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November 03, 2018, 01:25:45 PM
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It's hard to figure out from the description what game are you referring to but I hope it's this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_game

Even today especially in the third world countries street gambling games are quite common. I've played them myself and it's way better than online gambling in terms of probability fair and stuff. Like I recently saw a video where a rat is allowed to run randomly into a number of holes with bets on them. Now this can't be made rigged by teaching a rat to run only in the selective holes.
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November 03, 2018, 07:41:36 PM
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First to hear about spiders

cock fighting very popular in Latin America countries at least in Mexico

i remember time long time ago when communism  system was still here and  was not machines
than Lotto numbers were drawing by person not machine but i am doubt was it fair

I have been reading interview with one polish mathematician who broke German Enigma   encryption before WW2 and during WW2
He told that it will take him about 3 weeks of work to break Lotto code and win anytime he wants to


 
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November 03, 2018, 11:49:18 PM
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In India their are lot of street games played some officially and some unofficially, they are goat fighting, cock fighting, this are games which are played in street gambling unofficially. Kite flying competition, this game was played officially but i think today it is not so popular.

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November 04, 2018, 03:42:17 AM
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First to hear about spiders

Spider fighting is very popular here our country especially when it comes season time of spider most likely in the summer time. I know how to play this because this is my favorite gambling habit when i was a kid and I also selling this in school.
There are a lot of street games that now slowly gone but they are very popular before just like tossing three old coins when the coins hit on the ground you have to win if coins appear same faces at least two coins.
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Unfortunately, I don't know any old favorite gambling game because basically, I am not a gambler, I gamble when I know crypto, and I don't spend too long to play the game. Maybe the game is card and dice, and I think it was so popular here and I see that in some place, people still played even in the secret place. But I think there is another gambling game that still popular until now in here, and maybe I will ask my friends who know about the game.
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November 04, 2018, 04:12:47 AM
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It is funny since he uses the psychology of gambling here. If I am not mistaken, in my early years, this is how people that go to our place or town get money out of them.

At first they are letting these gamblers, my townspeople, to win. In the psychology of gambling, the happier or the more the gamblers are enjoying the game, they will be having a long time gambling and that also means a good loss for them. Back in the days, gambling is like a magic trick; you are pushing them into your show and tricking them into something not for them to be amazed but for you to earn money.
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November 04, 2018, 06:30:47 AM
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How about pigeon racing though? When I was growing up I used to watch and join the street crowd if ever there's a pigeon race and there will be huge bet. Those owners will make a bet and other people can join in as well. And then someone will take the pigeon on a designated location, (they usually ride a train) and let the pigeon fly and the first one to make it to home is the winner. But I haven't seen this practice or game for a while now so I'm not sure if this sort of game has died down.

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November 04, 2018, 04:19:24 PM
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I'm not really sure though, I thought that cock fighting in the Philippines was a Spanish influence. So its really hard to see Philppines into cock fighting prior to Magellan's arrival, but I might be wrong.

Like I have said that Antonio Pigafetta had already witnessed bets being placed on cockfights when his ship arrived in 1521 and by that time he traveled with Ferdinand Magellan he in the Philippines so cockfights are not the influence of Spaniards but I think it was introduced by the Chinese in the late sixteenth century when many local Chinese would go to the Philippines for business and profit, engaging in different trades and activities, Well I have learn it in history class back then.

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Its still being played and I even heard that in prison cells, this sort of gambling was a favourite past time amongst those convicted.

Well, I have heard it from a documentary were convicts and prisoners had freedom inside the vicinity of the prison where they can often unsought illegal things inside the jail that includes illegal drugs paraphernalia, money, and even cocks used in cockfights for illegal gamblings inside, Well, that was back then when Duterte is not the president.
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November 04, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
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That's why we have "provable fair" casinos these days. There is no way to exploit the human behavior with "Provable fair" method. Hence why you guys see all these deposit promotions etc. That's their new way to "exploit/lure" people in. I mean if you look at the moral of the story it was that the dude stopped betting at the right moment instead of letting his emotions take over and if you ask me its still valid today and will always be. Knowing when to stop pushing your luck is the only difference between a "good" gambler and a "bad" one.
I do not agree with this, you either have a method to beat the casino or you do not, and as is the case with most gamblers they do not have a way to beat the house so whatever profits you are making in a game that has a negative expectation for you are profits that you will eventually give to the casino if you keep playing, now some may say that the only thing you need to do is to stop playing before that happens, but since we are talking about random games, when do you know that is going to happen?

And even more importantly many see the wins they made in a session of gambling but the truth is that gambling is nothing but a long single session, so the next time you gamble even if it is months after you made profits the session continues. So the only way to make profits in a negative expectation game is to get lucky at first and then never play again in your life.

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November 04, 2018, 08:11:37 PM
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I once saw scammers who were cheating people on the game of 3 cups and it was a similar strategy to the card game story. The difference was that they had shills in the crowd who were playing and winning, to make people think that it's easy. Later on when somebody came to play the shills were supposed to turn his attention, distract him, sometimes even steal from him. If the cheated person got wind of the scam they would make a lot of noise and confusion in the crowd for the group to get away.
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November 05, 2018, 11:20:33 PM
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This is the easiest betting game, can be done anywhere, anytime. I do this with my friends, we do wherever we want. This game is to guess the vehicle number plate, we take one of the last numbers whether odd or even. Are we sitting on the side of the road waiting for every vehicle that passes and watching the vehicle's license plate, odd or even? yes this looks crazy. In this game there are no experts or cheaters, it's just about luck. Grin Grin

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November 06, 2018, 02:15:18 PM
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I realized that everything that we do is a gamble, And particularly your life is a real gamble, And in my opinion every part of it we can bet and turn it into a gamble, It is pretty peculiar that we can debate everything and anything that we can come across can turn into something we can bet on, For example, the cars in the streets we will not bet on the color of a vehicle that you will first see to cross your path, Just like these people will surely come up with a good way and a good thing to bet on.
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