[Graph] Account farmers now in Signature Campaign

[Picomov]

So are there different campaign managers involved or are they all under the same campaign manager?

Company managers are different. I wrote to the Manager of the company Miracle Tele. He almost immediately responded - all 3 accounts were excluded from the company.

When they notice it, they'll just put on a new signature, and it'll start all over again.

You didn’t apply to managers of other bounty companies?

[Coyster]

Maybe a new email system can solve most of problems on the network.
If the high rank members, forum admins, company managers wants that can solve this.
A project can start from scratch or just like a huge exchanges, ID verification email system can be used and all campains should request this email just like they looks for bct account. Dunno its probably obsessive idea but every line of read, depressing when you spend lot of efford.

Talking about identification verification,doesnt KYC already cover such...

And most campaigns aren't and wouldn't really be strict about all that,they are simply all about the crowd/fund raised

So in the end it's the forum which suffers it in the end, in the name of spam

[Alex_Sr]

So are there different campaign managers involved or are they all under the same campaign manager?

Company managers are different. I wrote to the Manager of the company Miracle Tele. He almost immediately responded - all 3 accounts were excluded from the company.

When they notice it, they'll just put on a new signature, and it'll start all over again.

You didn’t apply to managers of other bounty companies?

Yes, I wrote in PM  momopi - he is leading 2 of these companies:

1. Decentralized Digital Billboards:

Code:

Timestamp		Bitcointalk Username	Bitcointalk URL Link							Forum Rank	Telegram Username	ERC-20 Address
10/16/2018 20:39:10	Halinsely		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189306		Member		@Halinsely		0x21187F5E75EA45e661EE434D5Bdc33A845e4b317
10/27/2018 17:40:48	Hillore			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2180882;sa=summary	Member		@Hillore		0xe1c843303aB6Ac184719b15d1653A8E2900E9978
10/27/2018 18:22:11	Orenonex		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2180871;sa=summary	Member		@Orenonex		0x064BD70837dEebd9FD61F10c7411B7e4A2df7697

2. Crypto Depository Receipts:

Code:

Timestamp		Bitcointalk Username	Bitcointalk URL Link						Bitcointalk Rank
9/30/2018 16:48		Enataramel		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189302	Member
10/17/2018 1:26		Meletix			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189297	Member
10/17/2018 1:55		Timaif			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189298	Member

I have not received an answer from him...

[Alex_Sr]

It's been 5 days. Reply from the campaign manager momopi I never received. Is the manager interested in having bots in his company?

[apriandalt]

Earlier I wrote about the mass accounts farming in the offtopic section of the Russian forum branch.

It is very likely that they are not grown for sale, and to participate in the signature companies. I came across one of the first such farms:

Merit-sellers:
hajimasan
Apriand

Member's account participating in the signatures company:
Phenanne
Linakamo
Orenonex
Daliloz
Hillore
Meletix
Timaif
Enataramel
Halinsely
Marainoli
Kiroyd
Tistergis
Kanatanex

Thank you DdmrDdmr for a great tool work - User Merit Network.

https://c.radikal.ru/c06/1811/d6/069488958551.jpg

All accounts were registered on these dates: January 18, June 4 and 6

Im sorry for this, im real Apriand. Thats account has stolen from me since march, 2018. I already report that to admin (Theymos and cyrus) in may 2018 but no respond.
Now after new tool realized here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0 i report again with email and yesterday i got reply in email my account now success verified, and may be it will be back to me.
i also have made topic about my account here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071715.msg48034435#msg48034435

So i just want everyone know if that account abuse something in this forum its not me, i just so sorry.
If my account back i hope red trust will removed from my account.

I will clarification here if my account back to me with sign message.

Thank you so much.

edit : I can give a proof about my message to cyrus and thyemos (in may 2018) with a screenshot if needed.

[momopi]

So are there different campaign managers involved or are they all under the same campaign manager?

Company managers are different. I wrote to the Manager of the company Miracle Tele. He almost immediately responded - all 3 accounts were excluded from the company.

When they notice it, they'll just put on a new signature, and it'll start all over again.

You didn’t apply to managers of other bounty companies?

Yes, I wrote in PM  momopi - he is leading 2 of these companies:

1. Decentralized Digital Billboards:

Code:

Timestamp		Bitcointalk Username	Bitcointalk URL Link							Forum Rank	Telegram Username	ERC-20 Address
10/16/2018 20:39:10	Halinsely		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189306		Member		@Halinsely		0x21187F5E75EA45e661EE434D5Bdc33A845e4b317
10/27/2018 17:40:48	Hillore			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2180882;sa=summary	Member		@Hillore		0xe1c843303aB6Ac184719b15d1653A8E2900E9978
10/27/2018 18:22:11	Orenonex		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2180871;sa=summary	Member		@Orenonex		0x064BD70837dEebd9FD61F10c7411B7e4A2df7697

2. Crypto Depository Receipts:

Code:

Timestamp		Bitcointalk Username	Bitcointalk URL Link						Bitcointalk Rank
9/30/2018 16:48		Enataramel		https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189302	Member
10/17/2018 1:26		Meletix			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189297	Member
10/17/2018 1:55		Timaif			https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2189298	Member

I have not received an answer from him...

I got negative trust due to this complain. You only wrote about this issue once and I overlooked this message. I barely check my messages here in Bitcointalk and definitely not checking BTT reputation section. I encourage everyone to state their issue to respective bounty telegram groups so I can easily consolidate complains.

To Lauda, could you please be considerate? It wasn't my intention or knowingly involve to this fraudulent activity.

[Lauda]

I got negative trust due to this complain. You only wrote about this issue once and I overlooked this message. I barely check my messages here in Bitcointalk and definitely not checking BTT reputation section. I encourage everyone to state their issue to respective bounty telegram groups so I can easily consolidate complains.

To Lauda, could you please be considerate? It wasn't my intention or knowingly involve to this fraudulent activity.

Did the involved users all end up receiving rewards?

[momopi]

I got negative trust due to this complain. You only wrote about this issue once and I overlooked this message. I barely check my messages here in Bitcointalk and definitely not checking BTT reputation section. I encourage everyone to state their issue to respective bounty telegram groups so I can easily consolidate complains.

To Lauda, could you please be considerate? It wasn't my intention or knowingly involve to this fraudulent activity.

Did the involved users all end up receiving rewards?

For Bidooh, tokens distribution still pending.  I already removed stakes of these participants for signature campaign and currently checking for other parts of Bidooh campaign.

For CDRX, I need to verify this since we already parted ways to this project and we don't do the tokens distribution.


 I am not sure if this will help my defense, but please take time to check this:

I checked my messages way back November and here are the participants who fraudulently joined our campaign (Bidooh and CDRX) as per OP.

Code:

Name:		Merit:	Position:	Date Registered:		Signature Campaign:
Orenonex	10	Member		June 04, 2018, 02:25:52 AM	Decentralized Digital Billboards
Hillore		10	Member		June 04, 2018, 02:30:06 AM	Decentralized Digital Billboards
Halinsely	10	Member		June 06, 2018, 09:01:26 PM	Decentralized Digital Billboards
Enataramel	10	Member		June 06, 2018, 09:00:20 PM	Changed sig
Meletix		10	Member		June 06, 2018, 08:58:07 PM	Crypto Depository Receipts
Timaif		10	Member		June 06, 2018, 08:59:13 PM	Crypto Depository Receipt

If you will notice, "Enataramel" user was kicked out around October 2018 from our campaign and no stakes received for CDRX since he changed his signature. I wouldn't kick this guy "If" I am part and aware of this activity.





For campaigns I actively managing, I always have this "NOte" from my pinned message that all concerns should be discussed in their respective bounty telegram groups and I am the one who will pm them first if the issue is sensitive or shouldn't be known by others.. I am managing multiple campaigns and it's hard for me attend each concerns if it will be carried out to different places.






@Lauda - I hope these will be heard/read. This is an honest mistake and I take full responsibility about this mess. This will definitely serve a lesson and I will re assess  how I check messages from participants/concerned BTT members

[Lauda]

For Bidooh, tokens distribution still pending.  I already removed stakes of these participants for signature campaign and currently checking for other parts of Bidooh campaign.

Good.

For CDRX, I need to verify this since we already parted ways to this project and we don't do the tokens distribution.

Not good.

For campaigns I actively managing, I always have this "NOte" from my pinned message that all concerns should be discussed in their respective bounty telegram groups and I am the one who will pm them first if the issue is sensitive or shouldn't be known by others.. I am managing multiple campaigns and it's hard for me attend each concerns if it will be carried out to different places.

That should be a note solely intended for participants. You should not expect external members to join any TG group just to report abuse. This will not help in defending your actions (or lack thereof). Just an FYI.

[Orenonex]

Why you write such posts? You spoil my reputation in those companies where I participate. I have one account. if you have solid proof that my account connected with others expose them in thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0 I didn't break the forum rules.

[momopi]

Someone is getting pissed off that his stakes suddenly removed from the campaign.

Orenonex - as per our discussion, I will not change your stakes unless Lauda or other DT members agreed you've nothing to do with this accusation. IMO, after all that were presented by OP, I doubt someone will vouch you.

[Alex_Sr]

The story received an unexpected continuation:

I ask to remove red trust from me, cuz Alex_Sr did not give any real proofs, only empty words.

Need a proof? You're welcome:

1. Account Timaif is one of a large farm accounts. This farm was registered June 06, 2018 from 08:41:09 PM to 09:26:20 PM
Blonelly
Samitaill
Veyladid
Jamilowi
Zrikambe
Tyrdyanie
Walinex
Cleyori
Meletix
Timaif
Enataramel
Halinsely
Marainoli
Kiroyd
Tistergis
Kanatanex
Johaneex
Celandra
Darliex
Vandilis
Dyleil
Milinex
Talionsti
Joronso
Paorain
Sabeliziar

Code:

Name:		Posts:		Activity:	Merit:		Position:	Date Registered:
Blonelly	71		70		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:41:09 PM
Samitaill	71		70		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:41:58 PM
Veyladid	71		70		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:43:54 PM
Jamilowi	71		70		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:47:39 PM
Zrikambe	71		70		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:49:29 PM
Tyrdyanie	71		70		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:53:06 PM
Walinex		40		40		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
Cleyori		41		41		10		Jr. Member	June 06, 2018, 08:56:59 PM
Meletix		109		109		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 08:58:07 PM
Timaif		119		119		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
Enataramel	133		126		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 09:00:20 PM
Halinsely	103		103		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 09:01:26 PM
Marainoli	117		117		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 09:02:14 PM
Kiroyd		119		119		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 09:04:14 PM
Tistergis	136		126		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
Kanatanex	130		126		10		Member		June 06, 2018, 09:07:46 PM
Johaneex	42		42		10		Jr. Member	June 06, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Celandra	88		88		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 09:09:34 PM
Darliex		43		43		10		Jr. Member	June 06, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Vandilis	42		42		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
Dyleil		42		42		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 09:17:58 PM
Milinex		40		40		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
Talionsti	40		40		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 09:22:04 PM
Joronso		40		40		0		Newbie		June 06, 2018, 09:22:57 PM
Paorain		41		41		1		Jr. Member	June 06, 2018, 09:23:52 PM
Sabeliziar	42		42		2		Jr. Member	June 06, 2018, 09:26:20 PM

2. All accounts of this farm stuffed activity in the "Miscellaneous" section of the Russian local Board. Posts were filled with the same accounts in the same order with an interval of 20 seconds. All posts are written as a template. One-line post.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190128192233/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2989833.msg41136515
https://web.archive.org/web/20190128193119/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3709398.440
https://web.archive.org/web/20190128193546/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2509476.msg41164654
https://web.archive.org/web/20190129062634/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169949.msg41165958






3. About mutual overflow of merits I wrote earlier.  



Sum up. What is the probability that accounts registered in one day will accidentally write posts in the same order, in the same topics, with the same interval? The probability of randomness of this event is zero!

P.S. Thank you for bringing it up. This gave me the opportunity to examine your abuses in more detail! Other accounts of this farm will also receive negative feedbacks from me!

https://web.archive.org/web/20190129063027/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169949.1640
https://web.archive.org/web/20190129063330/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2509476.800
https://web.archive.org/web/20190129063607/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3563455.msg40944830%23msg40944830

[TalkStar]

Its a clear connection between those accounts. Where every post done by little time interval . Most probably each of the account handled by one user. I don't know how many accounts already created by this owner but its really injurious for the forum.

In recent times account farming has been a common activities on the forum. Its not only destroying the fame of bitcointalk but also inspiring new users to account buy -sell. It should be stopped anyhow. Thanks Alex_sr for the disclosure

[Alex_Sr]

Its a clear connection between those accounts. Where every post done by little time interval . Most probably each of the account handled by one user. I don't know how many accounts already created by this owner but its really injurious for the forum.

In recent times account farming has been a common activities on the forum. Its not only destroying the fame of bitcointalk but also inspiring new users to account buy -sell. It should be stopped anyhow. Thanks Alex_sr for the disclosure

I was very surprised when an apparently farm account started to resent the fact that I left him a negative feedback. He's either stupid or believes others are very stupid - all of their relationship visible to the "naked eye"!

[Alex_Sr]

Apriand - Account returned to its rightful owner!


Proof

[TalkStar]

I was very surprised when an apparently farm account started to resent the fact that I left him a negative feedback. He's either stupid or believes others are very stupid - all of their relationship visible to the "naked eye"!

They always like to make excuses, its really surprising when they get caught with enough evidence but after that they don't want to confess it. Its a common habit specially for them who commit fraudlent activities.

[Alex_Sr]

They always like to make excuses, its really surprising when they get caught with enough evidence but after that they don't want to confess it. Its a common habit specially for them who commit fraudlent activities.

They are not only very stupid excuses, and even counter feedbacks very silly writing (often without proof simply for a dirty trick).