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November 02, 2018, 09:28:36 AM
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I've just been re-reading the alt account threads here, and it occurred to me that it could be useful to include a reference to a master account in the profiles of legitimate alts. I use the name "Kuffy" on a variety of forums around the net, and I've just registered the name here as a protective measure. There is so much identity theft, and impersonation around at the moment, that I thought it best to block the use of the name. It is not my intention to use it for posting here.

There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it. Perhaps the ICQ entry could be replaced by a primary account name. Does anyone still use ICQ?

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November 02, 2018, 09:34:57 AM
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Even this forum has lot of altaccount for each persons I don't think they will come and expose themselves here.But anyway it will be better to have such feature.
Does anyone still use ICQ?
I don't even know what is ICQ,AIM,YIM? Maybe they were too much outdated for the current modern world.

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November 02, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
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I've just been re-reading the alt account threads here, and it occurred to me that it could be useful to include a reference to a master account in the profiles of legitimate alts. I use the name "Kuffy" on a variety of forums around the net, and I've just registered the name here as a protective measure. There is so much identity theft, and impersonation around at the moment, that I thought it best to block the use of the name. It is not my intention to use it for posting here.
You can block it. So it will be even more reliable. If it is implied that the account was created only to exclude the possibility of using the name. Smiley

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November 02, 2018, 10:11:43 AM
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I've just been re-reading the alt account threads here, and it occurred to me that it could be useful to include a reference to a master account in the profiles of legitimate alts.

There is no such thing as an illegitimate alt account as multiple accounts is allowed in the forum.
And a rule breaker would be reprimanded irrespective of number of accounts.

And users create alts for different reasons, one of which could be to separate your identity from an opinion you might have. And enter discussions incognito.
You can always add a link to your primary account in your signature or personal text, if you deem it necessary.


I don't even know what is ICQ,AIM,YIM? Maybe they were too much outdated for the current modern world.

They are out of date, but I think it shows the originality of the forum. And would give some a nostalgic feeling.
A futuristic technology displaying out dated ones, how ideal.

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November 02, 2018, 11:51:30 AM
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There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it.
Won't there be a conflict if there is such an option?
If someone (scammer) creates new accounts or uses old account for linking with a high ranked user, it will create a conflict. Still the master account have to admit that s/he owns the account.

I've just been re-reading the alt account threads here, and it occurred to me that it could be useful to include a reference to a master account in the profiles of legitimate alts.

There is no such thing as an illegitimate alt account as multiple accounts is allowed in the forum.
Legitimate alt account= Self admitted alt accounts.
For example, hilariousandco and hilariousetc

On the other hand, illegitimate alt accounts= Alt accounts used by different members which is not known to us/public.

OP has mentioned to add an option where there will be way to link up the main account.

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November 02, 2018, 12:17:54 PM
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I have a fairly good command of the English language.
And illegitimate could be used to refer to a dubious, illegal, against the law or spurious account.

A better way to put it would be acknowledged, or overt alt accounts and covert ones.

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November 02, 2018, 12:56:08 PM
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There is so much identity theft, and impersonation around at the moment, that I thought it best to block the use of the name.

Leaving a neutral trust rating on your alt account with your main account containing the message that it is your alt account would do the work I guess. That is what most of the people do to let others know about it. Maybe you can sign a message with your Bitcoin address that you use on your main account and put your trust rating comment in that signed message and then post it on your alt account to prove that it is actually your account and anyone else claiming to have control on it is simply falsifying.

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November 02, 2018, 01:42:28 PM
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I don't even know what is ICQ,AIM,YIM? Maybe they were too much outdated for the current modern world.

They are out of date, but I think it shows the originality of the forum. And would give some a nostalgic feeling.
A futuristic technology displaying out dated ones, how ideal.
But literally having them in our forum have no use so better update those spaces for something useful just like @JC said for primary account name or for adding other crypto wallet address like ethereum,Or details like BIO and much more.

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November 02, 2018, 01:48:17 PM
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I don't even know what is ICQ,AIM,YIM?

Welp. I feel old. Let's not even mention IRC and BBSes.
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November 02, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
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There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it. Perhaps the ICQ entry could be replaced by a primary account name. Does anyone still use ICQ?

What's your goal? I mean - you can put in personal text, or a trust rating saying it's your account - is there something else you want this "master" field to do?

I don't even know what is ICQ,AIM,YIM?

Welp. I feel old. Let's not even mention IRC and BBSes.

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November 02, 2018, 06:06:28 PM
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There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it.
Won't there be a conflict if there is such an option?
If someone (scammer) creates new accounts or uses old account for linking with a high ranked user, it will create a conflict. Still the master account have to admit that s/he owns the account.

If there's a way to link two profiles into one master profile, the 'conflict' would be averted. A unique code from a master account could be extracted--and only the true owner of the account, of course will be able to access it--which could then be used to 'link' different accounts to the master. It is doable but I think would not be taken care of considering that not everyone in this forum would like their alt accounts exposed to the public.

You can instead use those blank fields to 'show' people that you're account is related to that one. The fields of ICQ, AIM, YIM don't even follow a certain format--it can be used for literally any text you could think of.

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November 02, 2018, 06:12:55 PM
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You can give a neutral trust to your alter account sothat anyone can know about your alter account and also adding personal text can be another way to mention your alter account and main account.
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In theory this might be nice but realistically I'm not sure there is a point in adding another piece of data here, it's not verifiable, and couldn't really be seen as relevant information.

Plus, it would likely end up as another way for people to attempt identity theft. Everyone will just set their master account to theymos or satoshi and claim to be undercover or something stupid. Leaving feedback to the other account is probably the best way to do this because it at least verifies the account holder at that time has actually left that feedback. Having a configurable profile field by the user would not be a good idea, and creating a system to sort of fully cross-verify this type of field is probably more trouble than it's worth considering most people won't use it legitimately, or do not want their alts known.

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You might enjoy this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckc6XSSh52w (it's not Rick Astley I promise).

Interesting, I can almost hum the 1200-2400 bps & the 9.6K-14.4K by memory... but oddly I don't recognize the later 56K ones, which I probably have used way more in my lifetime than the others.

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I've just been re-reading the alt account threads here, and it occurred to me that it could be useful to include a reference to a master account in the profiles of legitimate alts. I use the name "Kuffy" on a variety of forums around the net, and I've just registered the name here as a protective measure. There is so much identity theft, and impersonation around at the moment, that I thought it best to block the use of the name. It is not my intention to use it for posting here.


You’d have to get both accounts to verify it to prove the validity of such remark. I think giving it a neutral trust rating from jet cash is enough.
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I never really understood the purpose of an alt-account.

I think it's kinda a dumb field to add, but one of the features of the new forum software feature requests is easy to add profile fields.

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I never really understood the purpose of an alt-account.

I think it's kinda a dumb field to add, but one of the features of the new forum software feature requests is easy to add profile fields.
There are a few reasons that are not "spam-the-forum-for-bounties-and-signature-moneys", like Loyce and theymos who have an alt account that is used to login in insecure or shady computers (thus, not risking their account).

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November 03, 2018, 01:16:28 AM
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I never really understood the purpose of an alt-account.

I think it's kinda a dumb field to add, but one of the features of the new forum software feature requests is easy to add profile fields.
There are a few reasons that are not "spam-the-forum-for-bounties-and-signature-moneys", like Loyce and theymos who have an alt account that is used to login in insecure or shady computers (thus, not risking their account).

Seems like key signatures are better for different identities then.

admins shouldn't operate as admins tho, always standard users unless performing admin tasks.

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AIM no longer exists. I however agree with ibminer.

I also prefer to look for alts after someone has been up to mischief, not before. If someone knows that their main account is linked to an alt, they are less likely to try to scam with said alt because they are risking the reputation of both accounts. However they might be more likely to try to scam with what they believe to be a secret alt as they would only be risking the reputation of the alt. However if alts are generally not called out until mischief, they might be hesitant to try to scam with an alt out of fear their main will be uncovered. If alts are called out immediately, regardless of mischief, if they are not already called out, they can be fairly confident the relevant accounts cannot be linked.
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Many thanks for all the suggestions, and I will certainly implement some of them. It seems that some of the options are not available to brand new members, and, as a result of this, I decided to make a few posts as Kuffy. Hopefully this will allow me to comply with the suggested ideas.
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There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it.
I appreciate the effort that you are taking in your fit to talk and other projects, but such a suggestion would only be useful on a selective basis. Considering your account to be a use case of this suggestion, I dont see people who are using alt account to scam/spam/farm are going to actually reveal it - would they? That would make their whole attempt of making those accounts useless Cheesy

You on the other hand are not getting into such things (I hope) and you could create a thread in "Reputation" to keep the list of alts that you are creating and update it when new ones are made. Lock it so to prevent people from making unnecessary comments to it.

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I use the name "Kuffy" on a variety of forums around the net, and I've just registered the name here as a protective measure. There is so much identity theft, and impersonation around at the moment, that I thought it best to block the use of the name. It is not my intention to use it for posting here.
This:

You can block it. So it will be even more reliable. If it is implied that the account was created only to exclude the possibility of using the name. Smiley

There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it.
There is...

Best combination (for your case) is:

a) Sign a message from an address that previously been used on your main account.
b) Update your "Website title and URL fields" to your main account (instead of using it for listing your "kuffy" website).
c) Set you "secret Q&A" (from "Account Related Settings").
d) Recover your account using "SECRET QUESTION" option > Automatically "locks" your account.

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All of the previous posts regarding on proving your ownership of the alt account seems to be on point. You can either put it on their signature or personal message just like how DarkStar_ did it to his alt account or you can tag it like what hilarious did to his alt account. Both methods are an easy fix on legitimizing your ownership of the account as it can easily be seen by other members here in the community.

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November 03, 2018, 11:41:36 AM
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There doesn't seem to be an easy way to link it to Jet Cash in the profile unless I start to use it. Perhaps the ICQ entry could be replaced by a primary account name. Does anyone still use ICQ?
You can just use any of the unused fields for it, but I prefer just leaving 2-way neutral trust.

And users create alts for different reasons, one of which could be to separate your identity from an opinion you might have. And enter discussions incognito.
I remember seeing a post from theymos saying exactly this. I can't find it back, but from what I remember he says he prefers someone to express his opinion from an alt-account instead of not daring to speak his mind.

On the other hand, illegitimate alt accounts= Alt accounts used by different members which is not known to us/public.
As mentioned above, there can be legit reasons for wanting anonymity. As long as you're not untrustworthy on any of these accounts, I wouldn't call it illegitimate. Many users for instance left positive trust to their alts, which usually leads to red trust once discovered.

There are a few reasons that are not "spam-the-forum-for-bounties-and-signature-moneys", like Loyce and theymos who have an alt account that is used to login in insecure or shady computers (thus, not risking their account).
Until now, I haven't used LoyceMobile on anything else than my own phone, but I never trust phones. It's much easier to access than my home computer.

admins shouldn't operate as admins tho, always standard users unless performing admin tasks.
Although that's in general true for working on any computer system, I don't agree when it comes to forum use. Mods operate as Mods all the time too.

Many thanks for all the suggestions, and I will certainly implement some of them. It seems that some of the options are not available to brand new members, and, as a result of this, I decided to make a few posts as Kuffy. Hopefully this will allow me to comply with the suggested ideas.
You still haven't left 2-way neutral trust. That's much easier to find later on than (old) posts.

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I thought I might give a bit of background to my decision to register this name, as it is the result of the major changes that are starting both in the world of crypto and Bitcoin, and in the broader global economy. Jet Cash is a long term holder of Bitcoin, and, as yet, I haven't sold or spent a single Satoshi. I started looking to buy Bitcoin when it was around $50, but I was put off by the wide trading spread and the online frauds of the time. I feel that I am a bit more competent now, and able to judge the reliability of Bitcoin sellers. The trust system here doesn't really help, as people like Vod, The Pharmacist and TMAN have got trust pages that look like a tomato press, but my gut insinct is that they are completely trustworthy. I've executed a couple of trades with JackG, and I went with my instinct with him, and ignored his trust comments. My instinct was right, and the trades were simple, fast, and trouble free. My domain registrar has stopped paying in Bitcoin when I sell domain names, so I am going to have to purchase coins directly to build my savings in the future.

Why have I registered Kuffy? I use the sobriquet "Kuffy" on several other forums, and Jet Cash is only used in this forum and Fit to Talk. Kuffy has over 5,500 likes on a major domaining forum, and I am going to have to start accepting Bitcoin directly for domain name sales. I have been using the escrow and payment service offered by my registrar, but the removal of Bitcoin as an option, means that I am no longer able to do this. I suspect that there may be some cross-over between the reputations of Jet Cash and Kuffy with regards to domain name sales. Hopefully this will lead to my introduction of some new domain name dealers as members of this forum.

I am fairly outspoken, and in the past I have campaigned against affiliate link theft, and the leeching of affiliate payments through review sites. I had a number of problems resulting from these campaigns, as the practioners signed up on various sites using my name, and made a number of posts in attempts to discredit me. At the moment I'm anti-globalism and the associated eugenics, and opposed to the actions of big pharma. I hope that by registering Kuffy here, I will be able to keep a clean reputation for both of the identities.

I'll select a suitable template for a web page for Jet Cash, and I'll list the 3 declared alts on there. For the record, they are JetAid, Talk Merit, and Kuffy. Hopefully, discvussiing them openly will also avoid any confusion in the future.
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I thought I might give a bit of background to my decision to register this name, as it is the result of the major changes that are starting both in the world of crypto and Bitcoin, and in the broader global economy. Jet Cash is a long term holder of Bitcoin, and, as yet, I haven't sold or spent a single Satoshi. I started looking to buy Bitcoin when it was around $50, but I was put off by the wide trading spread and the online frauds of the time. I feel that I am a bit more competent now, and able to judge the reliability of Bitcoin sellers. The trust system here doesn't really help, as people like Vod, The Pharmacist and TMAN have got trust pages that look like a tomato press, but my gut insinct is that they are completely trustworthy. I've executed a couple of trades with JackG, and I went with my instinct with him, and ignored his trust comments. My instinct was right, and the trades were simple, fast, and trouble free. My domain registrar has stopped paying in Bitcoin when I sell domain names, so I am going to have to purchase coins directly to build my savings in the future.

Why have I registered Kuffy? I use the sobriquet "Kuffy" on several other forums, and Jet Cash is only used in this forum and Fit to Talk. Kuffy has over 5,500 likes on a major domaining forum, and I am going to have to start accepting Bitcoin directly for domain name sales. I have been using the escrow and payment service offered by my registrar, but the removal of Bitcoin as an option, means that I am no longer able to do this. I suspect that there may be some cross-over between the reputations of Jet Cash and Kuffy with regards to domain name sales. Hopefully this will lead to my introduction of some new domain name dealers as members of this forum.

I am fairly outspoken, and in the past I have campaigned against affiliate link theft, and the leeching of affiliate payments through review sites. I had a number of problems resulting from these campaigns, as the practioners signed up on various sites using my name, and made a number of posts in attempts to discredit me. At the moment I'm anti-globalism and the associated eugenics, and opposed to the actions of big pharma. I hope that by registering Kuffy here, I will be able to keep a clean reputation for both of the identities.

I'll select a suitable template for a web page for Jet Cash, and I'll list the 3 declared alts on there. For the record, they are JetAid, Talk Merit, and Kuffy. Hopefully, discvussiing them openly will also avoid any confusion in the future.
I know you hate if someone quotes the whole post but..
It's a good technique to have it quoted somewhere if you want to use it later on and you want to prove something with it. If your Kuffy account gets hacked, hackers can edit your post in order to make some trouble, so if someone quotes the post, hackers have to hack the quoter's account too in order to make the necessary changes in the quote too...
There's a similar topic here in Meta (started by Tomatocage) where you can get your bitcoin address quoted, for the same reason. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0
So this is done for you now, this is one of the rare reasons when quoting the whole post is a must Smiley
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If the hacker is the same person who had quoted, both can be changed, lol.
I always prefer to archive. One can easily edit the quoted post. That's why I prefer archive to avoid any kind of trouble.

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Well I own the .com domain names for all of my identities apart from JetAid. So they would need to hack my server as well. You make a good point about the Bitcoin address though, and I need to include that. I posrted inreputation, and I added a neutral trust to the Kuffy profile. I'm not sure what use it would be adding it to the Jet Cash profile though.

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Well I own the .com domain names for all of my identities apart from JetAid. So they would need to hack my server as well. You make a good point about the Bitcoin address though, and I need to include that. I posrted inreputation, and I added a neutral trust to the Kuffy profile. I'm not sure what use it would be adding it to the Jet Cash profile though.
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I've just been re-reading the alt account threads here, and it occurred to me that it could be useful to include a reference to a master account in the profiles of legitimate alts.
This would be useful for those high ranks that has alt accounts. Many users now try to impersonate higher rank accounts just to get acknowledge from other high rank users.  Besides, those users who imitate the high rank usernames are good for nothing spammers.

Moreover, username imitators will drag the higher rank's reputations down and for that you will have a degrading dignity as a member of this forum.
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Many users now try to impersonate higher rank accounts just to get acknowledge from other high rank users.
As far as I know, this doesn't happen that often, but there have been scammers who impersonate others. Usually, they quickly get tagged. If you find an impersonator that isn't tagged yet, just report it somewhere and DT will get them.

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November 06, 2018, 05:45:40 PM
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I was tempted to use Kuffy to sell some domain names, but, seeing as I got into trouble because I lost track of my alt posting a while ago, it's probably better to stick to using Jet Cash. Jet Cash has got a bit of green trust as well, so that will probably help.

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