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November 03, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
Last edit: November 03, 2018, 03:18:44 PM by iluvbitcoins
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Glad you chimed in on this and explained your side of the story.  It doesn't sound like Daniel91 is some sort of serial scammer, though the question is whether Theymos would consider the stain on his bitcointalk reputation as grounds for denying his merit source application.  In this case, I tend to think it would be worth giving him a shot at being a merit source especially since he can merit some local board posts.  The great thing about the merit system is that it's all public, so if any shenanigans take place, it's caught pretty quickly.

I don't think Daniel is a serial scammer.

But he wanted to kick out the 'rebels' and voted to form a new company and use the script the previous shareholders paid for.

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Glad you chimed in on this and explained your side of the story.  It doesn't sound like Daniel91 is some sort of serial scammer, though the question is whether Theymos would consider the stain on his bitcointalk reputation as grounds for denying his merit source application.  In this case, I tend to think it would be worth giving him a shot at being a merit source especially since he can merit some local board posts.  The great thing about the merit system is that it's all public, so if any shenanigans take place, it's caught pretty quickly.

I don't think Daniel is a serial scammer.

But he wanted to kick out the 'rebels' and voted to form a new company and use the script the previous shareholders paid for.

I think it's time to stop this useless discussion.
Majority of the owners of the company have right to make any legal decision connected with the company and trade, according to UK trade law.
Majority of the owners of the company have right to decide also what to do with the company property.
Before all decisions was made, we asked legal advice from the UK accounting company and they confirmed everything.
Also, Company house confirmed that all decisions was legal and accepted our request to dissolve the company.
All co owners, not content with the decision from the majority could file an official complaint to the Company house and in such case, they will check and decide if our legal decisions was made according to the law.
Also, if anything illegal, they will not dissolve company.
iluvbitcoins never filed an official complaint to the Company house about any decision made by the majority of the company owners.
With this, I think that legally everything is clear here.




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November 03, 2018, 03:38:44 PM
Last edit: November 03, 2018, 03:51:56 PM by iluvbitcoins
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Glad you chimed in on this and explained your side of the story.  It doesn't sound like Daniel91 is some sort of serial scammer, though the question is whether Theymos would consider the stain on his bitcointalk reputation as grounds for denying his merit source application.  In this case, I tend to think it would be worth giving him a shot at being a merit source especially since he can merit some local board posts.  The great thing about the merit system is that it's all public, so if any shenanigans take place, it's caught pretty quickly.

I don't think Daniel is a serial scammer.

But he wanted to kick out the 'rebels' and voted to form a new company and use the script the previous shareholders paid for.

I think it's time to stop this useless discussion.
Majority of the owners of the company have right to make any legal decision connected with the company and trade, according to UK trade law.
Majority of the owners of the company have right to decide also what to do with the company property.
Before all decisions was made, we asked legal advice from the UK accounting company and they confirmed everything.
Also, Company house confirmed that all decisions was legal and accepted our request to dissolve the company.
All co owners, not content with the decision from the majority could file an official complaint to the Company house and in such case, they will check and decide if our legal decisions was made according to the law.
Also, if anything illegal, they will not dissolve company.
iluvbitcoins never filed an official complaint to the Company house about any decision made by the majority of the company owners.
With this, I think that legally everything is clear here.

All you care about is that you don't get in trouble? Smiley

Step 1 - Take money from investors to buy something online
Step 2 - Dissolve the company
Step 3 - Start a new company
Step 4 - Use the item you bought with their money
Step 5 - Huh
Step 6 - Profit

I did contact a lawyer about it, but I deemed it to be a waste of my time since the project was a ticking time bomb already.
And it did self-destruct as I warned you.

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On a side note, I was considering removing the feedback in 3 months or so, to teach you a lesson but you have showed 0 remorse for what you have done! 0.
You have written false statements that don't even have any relation at all with what actually happened (in the other thread), and because of that condemned yourself to that feedback forever.

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November 03, 2018, 03:45:51 PM
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Only one more post and I will stop this useless discussion here.
According to the law, all property belongs to the company, not individuals.
All money invested also belong to the company and majority of the owners decide how to use it or spend it.
All decisions was made after we got legal advice from the authorities.
All decisions was confirmed by the authorities.
At this point, I just wanted to explain whole situation to the public.
All other matters I don't care, really.
I'm here because I want to help others and it's all.
You started this subject and I felt that public had to hear what really happened.
Still, I don't have anything against you and will not ask you to refund money spend for the trip to UK.
I forgive you everything.


p.s. also your negative trust is visible now but you gave it a few years ago, as I remember.
I don't care about trust or anything else but care about real facts and truth.

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November 03, 2018, 03:49:50 PM
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According to the law, all property belongs to the company, not individuals.

How come you used company #1 script in company #2 then?

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Still, I don't have anything against you and will not ask you to refund money spend for the trip to UK.
I forgive you everything.

Are you high?

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November 03, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
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According to the law, all property belongs to the company, not individuals.

How come you used company #1 script in company #2 then?

I suggest you to control your emotions and to ask legal advice from the lawyers and company house office.
We did everything (all legal decisions) according to the legal advice received in the UK.
I send you info that we started company dissolution process.
You had 3 months to file an official complaint to the Company house and stop company dissolution but you didn't send any complain.
It's all I can say here.
I don't think that others are interesting in discussion about laws in UK for ltd companies, so I suggest you not to waste their and our time any more.

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November 03, 2018, 04:08:54 PM
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According to the law, all property belongs to the company, not individuals.

How come you used company #1 script in company #2 then?

I suggest you to control your emotions and to ask legal advice from the lawyers and company house office.
We did everything (all legal decisions) according to the legal advice received in the UK.
I send you info that we started company dissolution process.
You had 3 months to file an official complaint to the Company house and stop company dissolution but you didn't send any complain.
It's all I can say here.
I don't think that others are interesting in discussion about laws in UK for ltd companies, so I suggest you not to waste their and our time any more.


I'm not interested in UK ltd laws.

You took money from 3 people you kicked out without reimbursement.
You used their money to purchase something.
You never intended to give them dividends if the product makes money.
2 new people PAID to get in, and you still didn't reimburse the old investors.

That's a scam no matter how the law defines it.

And the new guys got out because they realized DD was unstable Cheesy  Cheesy
The money though, where did it go o.o

It would be best for you to stop wasting my time because this is an argument you can't win.
All you can achieve is get on my nerves so hard that I actually dig up the group screenshots and make a scam accusation against you.

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November 03, 2018, 04:51:56 PM
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Daniel91 has been a shining example of a quality member of this forum. I have a good knowledge of English, but prefer my local forum as many posts are of high quality and valuable advice. I think that Daniel91 is one of the reasons why the quality of the local board is increasing and with his help he has made it an undoubtedly better place. If anyone should be a merit source, it is him.

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With his topic "Merits for quality posts" in the Croatian subforum Daniel has already been an unofficial merit source to the local community for months. He deserves a chance to be an official merit source as well.
His topic has and is still helping members who post quality posts to get some merits that otherwise they wouldn't get. Especially the lower ranks get the needed incentives when they see members like Daniel around because they know they have an unselfish person who is close and ready to award those that deserve to be awarded and doesn't expect anything in return.

Regarding the issue with iluvbitcoins. I am sorry things went down the way they did. I certainly dont have the right to meddle since it is a personal issue with the two of you. I do hope though that you can get together and find a gentleman's agreement and resolve the conflict in a peaceful way with a few beers and tequila shots. Good luck to the both of you and I hope Daniel becomes an Official Merit Source.

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With his topic "Merits for quality posts" in the Croatian subforum Daniel has already been an unofficial merit source to the local community for months. He deserves a chance to be an official merit source as well.
His topic has and is still helping members who post quality posts to get some merits that otherwise they wouldn't get. Especially the lower ranks get the needed incentives when they see members like Daniel around because they know they have an unselfish person who is close and ready to award those that deserve to be awarded and doesn't expect anything in return.

Regarding the issue with iluvbitcoins. I am sorry things went down the way they did. I certainly dont have the right to meddle since it is a personal issue with the two of you. I do hope though that you can get together and find a gentleman's agreement and resolve the conflict in a peaceful way with a few beers and tequila shots. Good luck to the both of you and I hope Daniel becomes an Official Merit Source.

Thank you very much for your kind words.
I just felt that this new members need help and support and I did it, in the best way I could.
If I become merit source, I will continue to help and support them by rewarding quality posts on this forum.
Regarding issue with iluvbitcoins I don't hate him or want to harm him.
He helped me a lot in the past and I'm grateful for everything.
I had to explain my position here and I'm sorry that he feel dissatisfied.
It was tragic business story for all of us. We all lost a lot money and time in our former business.
It's nothing we can do it about it now or change it.
It's nature of any business.
Some businesses prosper and some don't.
I already said in this topic that I forgive iluvbitcoins, that I don't ask any refund from him and I believe that soon or later we will meet somewhere and laugh about this story one day. 


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I just removed negative trust from iluvbitcoins and gave him positive trust.
I don't have desire any more to continue conflict with iluvbitcoins.
I wish him all the best in his life and business.
I'm sorry that our common business project in the past failed but it's time to leave past behind and move on with life.

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November 04, 2018, 06:51:45 PM
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Daniel91 definitely deserves to become a Merit source. In the past few months he has proven that he cares about the local community. Yes, he had some issues with iluvbitcoins in the past, but if we start digging in everyone's past, it would be very hard to find anyone without issues.
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November 04, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
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What could YOU possibly forgive me?
What have I done that has in any way harmed you??

You’re not going to ask for a refund from me! HA!
A refund for what??

I was sending money, not receiving it!
What the hell are you even talking about?

Looking for a signature campaign.
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November 04, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
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Daniel91 has already done a great job in our local Croatian board, I am grateful
Wish him all the best with this application, cause I believe that becoming a merit sourcer, users from our local board will be rewarded for their hard work on this forum, helping newbies and other users solving daily issues
Our local board deserves this

Best regards

If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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November 04, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
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I think you are looking for [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits
From this list, TMAN is the only merit source with negative trust from DT.
Yes, that's it--thank you.  I have my own custom trust list, so TMAN doesn't show up as tagged in red anyway.

I think it's time to stop this useless discussion.
You're probably right, but when someone is applying to be a merit source--which has the potential for abuse--I think it's appropriate to have a discussion about how trusted the applicant is.  Now I don't know all the details of what went on between you and iluvbitcoins, but you've both presented your arguments, and I don't think the issue should be enough to disqualify you from being a merit source.  That's just my opinion, however, and as I said previously it doesn't come down to a vote when merit sources get selected.  Hell, Theymos made me one when not only did I not apply to be a merit source but stated multiple times that I did not want to be one.

And I'll reiterate that I'm not sure when Theymos is going to start looking for new merit sources again.  It might be a while, so be patient.

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November 05, 2018, 08:42:08 AM
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[...] Hell, Theymos made me one when not only did I not apply to be a merit source but stated multiple times that I did not want to be one. [...]

ROFL

That having been said; I too think Daniel91 would be a great addition to BCT as a merit sourcer, especially having seen his work in the local Croatian section...


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November 06, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
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Thank you very much guys for your kind words and encouragement.
I'm really overwhelmed and grateful for such great support and promise that I will continue to help and support you on this forum as much as I can, doesn't matter if I will become merit source or not.
I know that for some of you is difficult to get merit on this forum because your English is not good enough and you don't feel confident to post in English sections of the forum.
I will continue to rewards your efforts to write good quality posts in the local section until the end.
When I spend all my merits I hope that someone else will continue my mission.


 

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November 07, 2018, 09:35:05 PM
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OP has given over 100 merits to members in the Croatian forum in the last few months. He deserves a chance to become an official merit source.
Good luck Daniel.

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November 07, 2018, 10:15:21 PM
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OP has given over 100 merits to members in the Croatian forum in the last few months. He deserves a chance to become an official merit source.
Good luck Daniel.
The fact that the OP has handed out that number of merits to users in some local(croatian)board doesn't qualify him for the post of a merit source,neither does it disqualify him though(also)

The most important thing is the quality of the posts being merited
And also scrutinizing the ten posts gathered by the OP to make sure they are merit worthy posts..

Your reputation on the forum as well as positive ratings and rank play a part or two also
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November 07, 2018, 11:04:35 PM
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The fact that the OP has handed out that number of merits to users in some local(croatian)board doesn't qualify him for the post of a merit source,neither does it disqualify him though(also)
Well, in my view it is an advantage as far as his application goes, since it shows he's willing to distribute merits--especially on the local boards where I think merit sources are badly needed.  You don't want a merit source who's going to be stingy with his sMerits, right?

The most important thing is the quality of the posts being merited
And you are correct about this.  Unfortunately I have no way of judging whether the posts he merited were of high quality or not, since I don't speak the language(s) on the boards he frequents.  As long as he's not giving merits for shitposts and doesn't look like he's sending merits to buddies or selling them, that's also to his advantage.

As I said, it might be a while before Theymos decides to add more merit sources, but I do hope he does anoint some members who give out merits on boards that are "underserved" (for lack of a better term).

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