NELUNS: "$136MILLION" OF NOTHING: yet another ICO scam...

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I reported the Neluns thread in hopes that it would be locked. It's full of bump-spam and the pattern is just too obvious. See my previous thread.
The report has remained unhandled since Nov. 11 and my experience tells me that if a report remains unhandled for more than 48h outside of weekends it usually stays like that forever.

I don't know what it'd take for mods to lock such an awful thread. This thread is one of the most obvious and apparent cases I've seen of spam-bumping practices being utilized.

Maybe mods are trying not to overdo it with deleting such threads because of a mindset similar to:

How to win in one step: Hire a spam-service and use it on competitor's thread -> it gets locked/trashed.

But what even is enough in that case? 200+ pages of plagiarism and trash posts aren't enough to lock the thread for Neluns? Why not?

Add in Self Moderation and you have a licence to spam for ever and ever.

[alani123]

Add in Self Moderation and you have a licence to spam for ever and ever.

I know you're sarcastic, but hell! The thread being self moderated just adds insult to injury... They have the ability to keep the spam under control by deleting trash responses but instead they let the thread balloon above 200 pages... Just proves that all the spam is part of their promotional efforts.

[Lauda]

Maybe mods are trying not to overdo it with deleting such threads because of a mindset similar to:

How to win in one step: Hire a spam-service and use it on competitor's thread -> it gets locked/trashed.

But what even is enough in that case? 200+ pages of plagiarism and trash posts aren't enough to lock the thread for Neluns? Why not?

Well in this case, it has been going on since the start and has no signs of stopping. If it were not done by them, it would have been reported by them. Therefore, it is safe to assume that they're the ones behind it and the thread can be swiftly removed.

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But what even is enough in that case? 200+ pages of plagiarism and trash posts aren't enough to lock the thread for Neluns? Why not?

It's not just Neluns - this forum is crawling with this kind of BS - here's a classic:

Still no answer......

So?

This:

Hello all,  I have a question if you can help me:

According to the ANN page:

The LABH team consists of experienced professionals in the POS environment.

..but I'm unable to find any info about who they are, neither here or on the webpage - can someone provide me with this info & make it available to everyone please?

I like to know who I'm investing my time/effort/money with.

Thanks.

So not a single one of the shill accounts here knows who the team is?  Not even the OP?

OK, maybe someone can explain why the DV8coin & LABHcoin sites use the exact same description.

Word for word:






Or why every single shill account here posts in both their threads?

Record breaking fake/shill count for these two threads too:

& a few more:



& a few more:

upload pictures

& a fresh batch of shill accounts.....



Pure cr@p all over this forum.

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But what even is enough in that case? 200+ pages of plagiarism and trash posts aren't enough to lock the thread for Neluns? Why not?

It's not just Neluns - this forum is crawling with this kind of BS - <snip>
Pure cr@p all over this forum.

Agree, and it doesn't appear there's an admin consensus on how to deal with it. Further convo on that subject is going on here.



Next stage of this car crash ICO scam is in progress: how to monetize the bagfuls of left over tokens before hookers and blow time (although, at the moment, they seem to be at the bottle of Thunderbird and a wank on a park bench stage)?

Well, first there's got to be some sort of listing on some sort of exchange, so they can pump and dump, problem is which exchange?
NELUNS admin have twisted and turned like a twisty turny thing on the subject of exchanges.
But they also have to maintain the illusion of their "institutional" investor base. like their VC Anchor investor (sic) The Manhattan Blockchain Fund, you remember, the one that they invented out of thin air...

Tricky.
As they point out



The roadmap (sic) with its October listings has been binned



and as per previous post the odds of a Binance listing are remote, to say the least.
The obvious answer would be to bring forward the introduction of their own exchange from December, but they can't do that because

1) The ripped off bounty hunters would scream blue murder if their token releases weren't also brought forward.
Only trouble is, there's 13,501,020 bounty tokens outstanding, the vast majority of which would be dumped immediately.
2) Their own exchange doesn't exist.

So, what to do.....*bright idea*! Let's ask the few bagholders that we did manage to grab some money from!!!
Brilliant idea, vodka Manhattans all round!!



Look at the shit on that list, I mean, just look.
Bear in mind this is supposed to be a $136m project, a Bank registered with the Bank of England, an SEC approved Exchange and an insurance company, projected to be worth $20BN within a couple of years.
So they apply for listing on the crappiest exchanges, most of which are probably run from some Bejing basement....

There's one or two naive but genuine bagholders on their Telegram, including an otherwise sensible sounding guy with a couple of grand at stake.
He's in denial, he thinks the 14,000 Telegram members are real people

 

But anyway, Lee White* tells us that the result means that



will be honored with the presence of NLS in the near future.
Watch this space.



*I found "Lee White", btw, she's a (not real) friend of Leslie Haynes on FB



Лecли Haynes has a number of Facebook friends who "work at Neluns"
All fake
Here's an example, William Norton aka John Hoffman.
 

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In English English, there's an expression about buses

Typical, you wait ages for a bus and then two come along at once! 

NELUNS victims investors must be thinking the same about exchanges.
Now that it has been unanimously decided by 1% of their Telegram accounts that the wildly successful security token NLS will be listed on those gilt edged, quality exchange /s known as idk.market and hotshit.io, would you believe it, the NELUNS own exchange is nearly ready too, coming soon^tm!

Being critical, they could have at least found a real BTC chart to stick in this pigs ass screenshot, and I see the (top left) news is nice and up to date.
Actually, being critical, my dog can copypasta better than that 



Their P2P page is nearly as impressive.
They could at least have gone down the HYIPshop and bought a decent $50 template.
Or learned to spell.

2 monthes

But hey, On the way to progress and moon....you know it makes sense.

partial crosspost from here.

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Well now, there's a surprise....

Our esteemed partners and investors!

We want to speak to you about the situation we all have to face at the current moment. The developers of Neluns are testing the Neluns Exchange and because of some technical and legal issues we have to delay the launch. The degree of completeness of the Neluns Exchange is 88%. At the present moment we’re considering some other jurisdictions to legalize the Neluns Exchange. One thing we can tell surely, we won’t choose the USA jurisdiction to prevent the problems for users and the platform and make it operate steadily. Approximate date of the launch of Neluns Exchange is March 31, 2019.

The second question that should be mentioned is when NLS token will be listed on the Exchanges. This is very important for us. You all know about the problems that had appeared around EtherDelta Exchange. Most of the Exchanges we tried to list denied or requested more than 1 million dollars listing fee. And they couldn’t even guarantee that NLS token won’t be delisted from their Exchange. We want to explain to you that token listing is just one part of big trading process which includes marketing, airdrops, advertising, exchanging from fiat and many other things which will cost more than $500K per month in addition to listing fee. We think this price is too high to pay to outside service providers. But we continue searching for partners among smaller exchanges which could ensure long-term stable trading of NLS token.
Therefore, listing of NLS token is expected on February on the condition that we will make a partnership with some Exchanges.
But of course after launch of Neluns  Exchange we will list NLS token first and foremost.
We also work on getting bank license. It will take from 6 to 14 months.

The Neluns Team apologizes and beg you to understand the current situation.

Thank you!

Our dear bounty hunters!

We know that you’re waiting for the token distribution. But because of the current situation and problems with listing and launching the Neluns Exchange we have to reschedule the distribution to March 31, 2019.
We are very sorry!
Please, be understanding and patient.

Thank you very much!

Investards (rip) are not impressed.

Ahahahahahah. Ok, now you have 3.5 months to to come up with a new excuse. Nothing new, just crypto.

And these guys tell us that they have collected more than 120 million in ICO, and they cant to provide listing on ex.
OK: 
Zilliqa, 20 mil ICO - Huobi,
Wanchain - 40 mil and Binance.
Neluns - 120 mil and "Sorry guys, we cant pay for  listing". Ahahahah.

Next - problems with jurisdiction, which appeared immediately after ICO.  Have you thought about this before? New laws in the field of regulation did not appear during this time.

And you say you collected 120 million? Shame on you.

However, they are getting to realize that there is absolutely nothing they can do about it, their money is gone, their bounty efforts go unpaid.
NELUNS know this too, so "Lee White" isn't even bothering to ban and delete the dissenters.
Maybe when hard woman "Leslie Haynes" looks in there will be some more quality Customer Relations

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But wait.... straight after telling everyone the truth bad news, NELUNS decide they have found a quality, well established platform on which to list...TODAY!!!
The World leading Bitc3!!!!
To da moon comrades non-Russians!!!!
Bitc3?



Bitc3?
Not much to tell about a three week old "exchange" really, let's see:
Registered as SINGAPORE FORTUNE VICTORY PTE.LTD (no trace)
No social network profile (followers: 48 FB, 74 Twitter)
An in house "mining" cash back token setup called "Genesis". No, not that one, this one.
A Scam Accusation for fake team profiles here
A deleted BCT [ANN] thread (archived)

Oh, and it's volumeless obviously.



A match made in Heaven, a token no-one wants listed on an "exchange" no-one uses.
Be prepared for some silliness.




And we're off, the first NLS trade is at $3.492!!!!

Wait for the headline: "NELUNS MARKET CAP $608,835,371! To da Moon!" 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

But wait.... straight after telling everyone the truth bad news, NELUNS decide they have found a quality, well established platform on which to list...TODAY!!!
The World leading Bitc3!!!!
To da moon comrades non-Russians!!!!
Bitc3?



Bitc3?
Not much to tell about a three week old "exchange" really, let's see:
Registered as SINGAPORE FORTUNE VICTORY PTE.LTD (no trace)
No social network profile (followers: 48 FB, 74 Twitter)
An in house "mining" cash back token setup called "Genesis". No, not that one, this one.
A Scam Accusation for fake team profiles here
A deleted BCT [ANN] thread (archived)

Oh, and it's volumeless obviously.



A match made in Heaven, a token no-one wants listed on an "exchange" no-one uses.
Be prepared for some silliness.




And we're off, the first NLS trade is at $3.492!!!!

Wait for the headline: "NELUNS MARKET CAP $608,835,371! To da Moon!" 

"Try to keep up. Somebody just evoked 'tern' three times on BitcoinTalk."

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"Try to keep up. Somebody just evoked 'tern' three times on BitcoinTalk."

"For every scam - turn, turn, turn
There is a token - turn, turn, turn
And a time for every pump under heaven

A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to pick, a time to choose
A time for hookers, a time for blow
A time for sanity, I swear never again an ICO!"

[Gothorum]

Do you really know where these neluns people are?

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Do you really know where these neluns people are?

Pm'ed you.


Well, after $180 volume in 24 hours on Bittrex Huobi Kraken Hitbtc Poloniex Binance Idkex Hotshit their own some Korean shitexchange, I thought I'd visit NELUNS self moderated thread and congratulate them, especially seeing as how their bumping service has stopped posting endless crap there because NELUNS didn't pay them.
However, knuckle-dragging self moderator milonite is ever vigilant in his basement...

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Capitalization of Neluns at cost 3,0114$ per 1NLS token would amount to 602 million dollars!!!

HAHAHA

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Sorry to consecutive post, but this is really Comedy Gold....

First, basement moderator milonite gets a hard on, over $4 for a pumped shittoken means they can claim nearly a billion marketcap  



And then follows it up with the "+1700%" post. I naturally thought, as anyone interested was supposed to, that they'd pumped it to $17.
Once I'd stopped laughing, I realized that meant a market cap of $3+ BEEEELLIONS!!!!
Pretty damned impressive. lol

So, what are Telegram making of it?
What does it look like on the cutting edge shitmarket UI?
Not what it seems...

Poor old Marcus notices it first

Latest price $0.09

Errrr, 9 cents?
That's a 91% DROP from the ICO price, after closing yesterday at $3+, a complete overnight meltdown  
"waddafuckisgoingon?" he asks.
Leslie Haynes is of course, the NELUNS numbers person, being

Director of Business Analysis and Audit Department at The Neluns Company

Her answer is priceless



Meanwhile, Bitcrap confirm, or seems to confirm the trading history of NLS so far:



Listed yesterday with a pump, started no volume trading at 17.30:48 at $0.90 and quickly to da moon, 20 minutes later, topping around at $3. (Don't know where milonite pulled $4 from, out of ass maybe?)
Today dumped, opened at $0.005, straight down to $0.0005 on a 20+ thou volume ($100,000 total market cap), since drifted up to $0.09, hence the rahrahrah about +1700%.....yeah, $0.0005 to $0.09 is about 1700%, I guess. One way of looking at it.

When you get a combination of bungling scammers and a new exchange which has already been caught lying, it becomes very difficult to know (or even care) about what's going on but, hey, it's holiday season, so let's play "Plausible Scenario":
We know there were a few tokens sold to mugs, if I remember without checking, somewhere around 600 ETH worth.
As soon as the lightbulb came on for those unfortunates that they had been sold the proverbial pup, they would be looking to dump it and move on.
The listing came as a bit of a surprise to everyone, including most of the scammers, who had only just told everyone the exchange can had been kicked down the road to February/the end of March.
So, listing day was a zero volume pump so as able to boast "trillion market cap" or whatever.
What it also did was attract some real dumping, around 27k tokens, "at Market" (BAAAD move in the circumstances) the next day...and there were no buyers. Because there are no buyers.
The scammers belatedly scramble a few dollars together from down the back of the rented leather sofa and soak it up: if they don't, it's all over.
And what a dump: $4 to $0.0005..."marketcap" down from "$812,560,000" to $100,000 in 24 hours lolol....and then NELUNS claim the crawl back to $0.09 as +1700%. Sad.  

This farce will no doubt stagger along for a bit more, but I have the suspicion that the scam seed money has all gone and they are now completely broke.
It's been (un)real NELUNS scampeeps, thanks for the lols.




You got to watch this, it's fucking hilarious  

From half a cent to seventeen cents in four minutes on $69 worth of volume..

$0.001 to $0.01 to $0.001 to $0.1 in fifteen minutes on $200, volume 798,710.... maybe they're going for the mining prize  

Christmas fucking Panto

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Damn, that looks like Marshall Long.

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Today's trading at Willy Nelun's Chocolate Factory:

Last Close: $0.19 after $0.0005 low
Open: $0.0011 ($193,000 total cap)
Moved from $0.19 to $0.45 on $51.25 volume
Volume traded: about $300 worth in total.
Tomorrows Telegram up date: "+40809.9%, to da moon!"

[azisjesika1]

and now they ask eth to claim tokens from bounty hunters 

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https://i.imgur.com/bRcCyUx.png
and now they ask eth to claim tokens from bounty hunters  

Very bad all this, there are those who send their money to scammers.
https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2018/12/25/d6f2939f5f4dc7e790993117655d38e9-full.png
https://etherscan.io/address/0x72a95990bbbc7b8ac4d3e236b5bd32c9ee544c1b

[MoistFace]

How is the ICO thread still not shut down ?

Both my "calculations" for someone asking how many NLS they would receive and warnings by others were deleted by milonite today. People are sadly sending them ETH ontop of the ~600ETH they have already raised + today another ~180$


/s

It’s quite simple to calculate
1 NLS bought at 1 USD
1 Like = 1 Prayer
1 Prayer = 0 (C Poждecтвoм, тoвapищ)
1 NLS = 1 Prayer * 1 Like
Therefore, 1 NLS = 0
1200% increase of 0 = 0
And importantly, 1 NLS = 1 NLS

From this set of calculations you can see it makes perfect sense to give ETH to receive NLS

[lotfiuser]

what about moderators what they are doing why this guy is not banned and his thread is not even closed thats not 50 $ scam thats millions scam

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I hope everyone had a good Christmas/Winter Solstice holiday.
It's traditionally (where I live) a time to give gifts and presents, but for the scamming bags of shit behind NELUNS a time to steal, lie and defraud their Bounty hunters.
Let's have look at the situation...
Because the NELUNS scam was so poorly constructed and timed, the ICO was a colossal failure.
No-one believes their nonsense about millions being raised from institutions, they even had to invent one to support this pretense. The Manhattan Blockchain invention sums these scammers up: clumsy amateurs, stupid and easily found out in their lies.

Hello. I am Nick Thielman, CEO and Co-Founder of the Neluns Project. Everyday I negotiate with many crypto funds and investment funds. In the near future the Wall Street funds and some others are going to invest in the Neluns more than 20 million dollars. 

We are trusted by more than 40 different funds, we have already collected investments from funds of about $ 70 million. We are trusted by the banking community, large crypto-currency traders and investment companies.

The ICO collected 639 ETH.

No proof of any dollars, no Bitcoin, just 639 ETH. That's it.
639*250 (average ETH value) = $159,750 collected.
With the discounts, that's maybe 200,000 tokens legitimately sold to people who, for their own reasons, decided to buy into this nonsense.
So, what have the scammers got? A few dollars (if they got out of ETH quick enough) and Tokens, millions of worthless tokens...
~200,000 sold out of 200,000,000, 13,500,000 tokens owed to bounty hunters, leaves the scammers with about 186,300,000 useless pieces of nothing.
They know that there will be literally no buyers for this crap when they go to exchange so, Q: what to do?
A #1: Fuck over the bounty hunters.

Move the release date from October to December for bullshit reasons which change daily.
KYC.. yes/no/maybe?
Accuse any questioners of being haters and ban/rob them.
Move the dates to end March.
Lie about exchanges.
Lie about bounty scamming "Russians" (what problem do they have, this obssession with Russians?¹ Let's look at that later..)

And the Final Solution... CHARGE bounty hunters 1000%'s inflated "fees" to get their tokens. They know that most bounty hunters have no money, that's why they do bounties and airdrops. Also of course, as soon as any tokens find their way to the joke exchange, they will be worth less than the redemption cost.

The amount of transaction fees:
- Bounty hunters who apply for getting up to 2000 NLS tokens have to pay 0,05 ETH
- Bounty hunters who apply for getting from 2000 to 7000 NLS tokens have to pay 0,1 ETH
- Bounty hunters who apply for getting from 7000 to 15000 NLS tokens have to pay 0,15 ETH
- Bounty hunters who apply for getting from 15000 and more have to pay 0,25 ETH
- Bounty hunters who apply for getting from 35000 and more have to pay 0,6 ETH 

When asked how they can justify doing these charge ripoffs, they say

Leslie Haynes, [28.12.18 18:10]
The Neluns is a Bank

Leslie Haynes, [28.12.18 18:10]
Firstly

HAHAHA.
Let's get one thing straight, NELUNS is not, and never will be, a Bank. The scammers are believing their own invention and lies, bad sign.
How about Exchanges?
The Road Map (an insult to Road Maps everywhere), listed every Big Name exchange they could think of.
Nothing happened.
They did a vote on Telegram, the 1% of members that are actually real voted from a list of shit for two listings.
Nothing happened.
Everybody must wait for the NELUNS own exchange, which doesn't exist.
Nothing happened.
List on some brand new basement Chinese Exchange, the same day as announcing end February.
Price pumped by NELUNS to $3 on no volume.
Lie about big exchange listing in the future.
A few bounty tokens get released and sold on Bitc3, naturally crashing the price to nothing.
AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS

THE NELUNS TOTAL MARKET CAP ON THEIR CHOSEN EXCHANGE IS....
 FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS

The "Manhattan Blockchain Fund's anchor $1.5million Investment" is worth, at market, around $390...



What do they do? What can they do?
They're scammers with a dead scam. They probably owe money to the sort of people that you don't want to owe money to. They have ripped off the only people they can, the handful of real investors and the bounty hunters.
What happens is they go into denial mode, those dreams of hookers and blow vanish and they just lose the plot, blame everyone they can think of, tell the most ridiculous lies they can think of.
Any time you want a laugh, have a look thru the contradictions and inventions called NELUNS Telegram.
Here's their latest rantings and ramblings

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Dear bounty hunters!
We don’t care if you don’t take your NLS tokens.
We understand why some of you who have 60000-70000 NLS tokens don’t want to pay for transactions. We know they have a few wallets with huge amount of NLS tokens. Don’t think you can fool us.

They probably blame the bounty hunters for the scam failing so badly and quickly, to rationalize them not being worth paying.
They are so stupid that they say "don't think you can fool us" after they have been fooled...

In 2 months tokens which are left on this wallet will be send to U.S. Department of the Treasury.

In two months NELUNS will be a stain on the floor, but loolool @ sending their meaningless tokens to the Government. Like...why?

If they won’t accept tokens we’ll burn them or sell on the Exchanges or give as bonus to our investors.

Or whatever else we can think of. Hmmm, burn or sell....? Wasn't there something in the White Paper about this?

By the way, listing on big Exchanges will take place only after the distribution is over.

By the way, listing on big Exchanges will take place only after Hell freezes over.

That means in 2 months we will finish with distribution and move on:

In two months, you will move "on" to hiding in friends' basements to escape the Guys with the Soldering Irons...

list NLS token on big exchanges, launch Neluns Exchange and whole Neluns ecosystem.

wordzzzzz

We won’t add NLS token to the Exchanges so bounty hunters won’t have chance to sell tokens while distribution isn’t over.
But after distribution is done we’ll start to list NLS token on the Exchanges.

And we will make sure we fuck over the bounty hunters.

Their latest post is just pure rambling paranoia...

Dear investors and partners!

Sorry for delay but we have to solve the question with bounty hunters in next 2 months. We think that this is not the best moment to list NLS token on the Exchanges because bounty hunters will dump the price right away.⬇️

Errr, you already listed it. It already dumped to nothing.
 

And after all they run negative PR company with their Russian friends to discredit Neluns. They plan to dump the price of NLS token. It’s made by an order of a third party who is interested to buy NLS tokens at low cost. We already know these people who organized this negative PR company. During KYC procedure we had to take away 2 million NLS tokens from a Russian fund. And now we see this signature Russian style of dirty games and machinations.

Here's the paranoia. A third party wants to buy NELUNS? But a third party can't buy tokens that investors don't want to sell, can they? If the bullshit about "institutional investors" had one iota of truth, this would be GOOD not bad, for the scam. And the Russian¹ thing again...

Or do you think all these negative articles about Neluns are made for free?
These venal people are ready to smear every decent man.

HAHAHA, I wonder who they are talking about? If I had a cent for every scammer who has said I'm being paid to post, I would be rich. "Decent man?" You mean like Nick Thielman? Lolol. Fuck off.

For 1 cent they will write thousands of shitty comments.

They are getting confused because of the stress of failure. This is obviously a reference to their 240 pages of Bump service spam on their [ANN] thread. (They can't even afford to pay the bill.)

During token distribution some of bounty hunters won’t pay for transactions and leave their tokens what is good for preventing price dump. Next 2 months the price for 1 NLS token won’t be stable, just don’t bear in mind.✊

Of course they won't pay real money for worthless shit. Well done, scammers, you ripped off your bounty hunters.

This situation is fully under control. Don’t doubt about the intelligence of the Neluns team!

HAHAHAHAHA

¹someone else sees the funny side of this.

According to the bank NELUNS, Kremlin agents are again tearing down the American dream. Of course, this is a joke. It is proved that the project is fraudsters and all those who took part in it urgently should contact the relevant law enforcement agencies.

Fraudsters stole almost 136 million. They were also so greedy that they asked for transaction fees from the hunters themselves. And this means that the fraudsters have moved to the last stage, they will steal everything they can and hide.

I got some red trust feedback the other day. Scammers often retaliate red trust me, like I care, but this one was different because I'd never written about his particular scam (777 ETH ponzi shit) and he left me the feedback about NELUNS. So any one wanting to find out who the NELUNS scammers are and why they seem so anti Russian could do worse than start with this cunt.