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November 04, 2018, 05:28:15 PM Last edit: November 04, 2018, 10:28:48 PM by Bowtiesarecool |
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Neluns thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4694028.0 exhibits all the hallmarks of a botted thread with numerous newbie accounts raining platitude about the project, answering each other, and completely ignoring questions directed to them. But that's not the problem Neluns claims to be registered in NYC and SEC compliant. However, for such an "American" company, they seem to quite incapable of finding that one English dude to write their PR as exemplified here: https://medium.com/@iconeluns/the-manhattan-blockchain-fund-is-an-anchor-investor-of-neluns-b2d99656eb12Then, you've got the "Binance List in Progress" thingy on their site. Anybody who's been around long enough knows NDA prevents startups from naming exchanges they are in discussion with (at least the top 50), not to mention stamping it on their homepage. Then you've got this Russian language investigation put together by a very astute and concerned community member: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/Concerned by all these, I went into their TG channel to alert them to the concerns on BTT. Next thing I knew, I got the boot.
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ashmodeus
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November 04, 2018, 05:56:02 PM |
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no wonder will be like this , since they claim ico raised more than 100,000,000 usd its too much , since market still on slow performance. i also read more more thread about neluns scam, but , i think we need more a perfect proof about this cases.
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maxim000
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November 04, 2018, 06:08:09 PM |
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They are a clear scam. First they are saying they raised $136 m with just some 850 investors which they are claiming as institutional investors, seems absurd. Then the Manhattan fund which was supposed to have invested $1.5 million has a website hosted on same server as their official websites.
They are clearly a scam.
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kryptqnick
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November 04, 2018, 09:17:00 PM |
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I believe most of ICOs are getting their threads hyped, even though it's against the rules. When I worked for one ICO, we had such offers regularly. Newbie activity costs the least, so this project probably didn't raise much money even if they are saying the opposite. As for English, I believe that projects can actually apply to SEC even if they are not registered in the US. After all, this is the most famous STO regulator in the world for now. The whole project doesn't look very nice to me, though, since it doesn't offer anything new. The Russian article is pretty good in showing that the project is at least lying to people if not planning to dump everyone.
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Bowtiesarecool (OP)
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November 04, 2018, 10:24:46 PM |
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I believe most of ICOs are getting their threads hyped, even though it's against the rules. When I worked for one ICO, we had such offers regularly. Newbie activity costs the least, so this project probably didn't raise much money even if they are saying the opposite. As for English, I believe that projects can actually apply to SEC even if they are not registered in the US. After all, this is the most famous STO regulator in the world for now. The whole project doesn't look very nice to me, though, since it doesn't offer anything new. The Russian article is pretty good in showing that the project is at least lying to people if not planning to dump everyone. Not question the fact that they are bumping their thread. Thread bumping is an open secret on BTT. My worry comes from the fact that it's over two weeks since ICO ended and they're still bumping threads. To what end? Add the amount they claimed to have raised and it becomes all the more worrisome that they need to bump their threads in the first place. Numerous ICOs have successfully raised a fraction of that without bumping. You don't raise over a hundred million without crossing a few oceans and knowing some highly-placed individuals. So why bump - using accounts that can barely string two words together. I'd assume as a financial company based in NYC, quality control will be of paramount importance in whatever service they choose to engage - including bumps and writers. Apparently, not the case here. Not only are they shitposting, but their articles are also poorly written too. Makes you wondered what they submitted to the "SEC" or pitched to "VCs". To cap it off, they are security token, meaning no good listing anytime soon (they can always pin that on the SEC conveniently), or (and based on their "quality control" or lack of) get listed on some shit exchange and keep stumbling all over their roadmap. Interesting times.
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November 05, 2018, 12:42:52 AM |
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There's also a Scam Accusation thread on the main board. Would be particularly interested if anyone has NELUNS' BTC investment donation address, much forum merits for info, tia.
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Bowtiesarecool (OP)
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November 05, 2018, 05:39:09 PM |
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According to what I've been able to gather, the exchange listing that was promised to be announced today is yet to materialize. Also, bounty hunters are being threatened to have their rewards slashed for being "Stupid" and "Idiot". Ok. Very corporate speak. very professional. Bots are back on the ANN thread too
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Maria
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November 05, 2018, 06:04:33 PM |
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I heard about this project for the first time. It's a good thing you haven't seen it before. I'm sorry for the investors who deposited money.
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November 05, 2018, 06:15:26 PM |
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This project is looking really dangerous to me because it's raised too much and also their commitment is not accurate as well. Their commitment was they will start distribution 28-30 OCTOBER but they didn't started yet. I am really shocked.
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Bowtiesarecool (OP)
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November 06, 2018, 10:45:09 AM |
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And now, they've started deleting posts on their self-moderated thread. Anything critical of them or even those asking for clarifications are getting deleted by the dozens. Yesterday's promised exchange failed to materialized. The funny thing is they're now talking about listing on Yobit, Mercatox, Bancor - after previously claiming they cannot list their security tokens on ordinary exchanges
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November 06, 2018, 12:30:04 PM |
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And now, they've started deleting posts on their self-moderated thread. Anything critical of them or even those asking for clarifications are getting deleted by the dozens. Yesterday's promised exchange failed to materialized. The funny thing is they're now talking about listing on Yobit, Mercatox, Bancor - after previously claiming they cannot list their security tokens on ordinary exchanges
I think this article should help them with "listing" on exchanges: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/page-2be sure to tell your friends...
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November 06, 2018, 10:11:29 PM |
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They are a clear scam. First they are saying they raised $136 m with just some 850 investors which they are claiming as institutional investors, seems absurd. Then the Manhattan fund which was supposed to have invested $1.5 million has a website hosted on same server as their official websites.
They are clearly a scam.
I read this article three times https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/There is one moment and I wanted to clarify with you: The Manhattan Blockchain Fund of which the Neluns ICO team told us it really is located at: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States? But at this address is located Deutsche Bank New York: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States. And here is the proof of this, here is the link to the official page of Deutsche Bank New York: https://www.db.com/usa/content/en/Contact.html This is the address of the Deutsche Bank New York and The Manhattan Blockchain Fund is no any fund there. It also means that The Manhattan Blockchain Foundation does not exist. Did I understand everything correctly?
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JeffBrad12
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November 06, 2018, 10:46:19 PM |
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They are a clear scam. First they are saying they raised $136 m with just some 850 investors which they are claiming as institutional investors, seems absurd. Then the Manhattan fund which was supposed to have invested $1.5 million has a website hosted on same server as their official websites.
They are clearly a scam.
These scammers are lying with us, i would not believe anything that has been written by these scammers until they can prove it. Remember this amount can be manipulated. I have seen a lot of icos are creating marketing gimmick like this one and this statement is mind-blowing. To give a hype to this scam ico and this is total bullshit.
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aervin11
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November 07, 2018, 03:16:55 AM |
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Bothered by the bumps on their thread, artificial or maybe because of their bounty. I also hate the way they predict the token price and that "Binance Listing", they are also a security token but the fact that they just recently finish their ICO, I don't think that I could judge them as a scam on first glance. Many red flags which made me think that Investors must notice in the first place, whether that $136M collected funds is true when the hardcap is only $112M ( Reference), I think I want to send regards to the investors for good luck.
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CryptoBry
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November 07, 2018, 03:36:46 AM |
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Considering that all of what you are saying here can be true then indeed these are big signs (RED FLAGS, many may say) of a project about to say goodbye to the whole world and for the people behind to enjoy their hoards somewhere else where nobody can recognize and find them (hope they go to hell to meet their idol). In case they can be another scam, this is just another black eye in the whole cryptocurrency industry and just another evidence of what I am saying that scammers from all over the world are now uniting in this industry and they will never stop doing their destruction until something is still left on this industry.
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Bowtiesarecool (OP)
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November 07, 2018, 08:48:33 AM |
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Bothered by the bumps on their thread, artificial or maybe because of their bounty. I also hate the way they predict the token price and that "Binance Listing", they are also a security token but the fact that they just recently finish their ICO, I don't think that I could judge them as a scam on first glance. Many red flags which made me think that Investors must notice in the first place, whether that $136M collected funds is true when the hardcap is only $112M ( Reference), I think I want to send regards to the investors for good luck. I've been on the other end of a listing team. I know it's impossible for anybody to talk about any top 10 listing to the public once the NDA is signed and submitted - was even involved in one where the listing lead wouldn't even talk to us about the status because he didn't want to jeopardize (or encourage inside trading). But here's Neluns boldly declaring it. Are they related to CZ? Then, you've got the nice chart about NLS token growth. Upward trajectory throughout 2019 to infinity Guys, ToTheMoon!!! 🚀🚀🚀🚀💵💵💵💵💵💰💰💰💰💰🏦🏦🏦 Soon On the Exchanges🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🏦💵💰 Such MOON! We both no there's no such trajectory in crypto. You can't keep mooning for months unending. No force can guarantee that. There's also a guaranteed dividend table SCHEDULE OF DIVIDEND PAYMENTS ON 2019–2022 The Neluns Team is glad to introduce to you the schedule of dividend payments! The benefits will be paid based on this plan. Congratulations, tokenholders and thank you for your support! You’ve made a right choice and we’ll not fail you! Let’s become rich together! https://neluns.io...."Lets become rich together?" ... Are they not rich already with $130-something raised? Also, all those american flags...
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Cryptotina
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November 07, 2018, 02:36:10 PM |
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Well neluns ico is obviously illegitimate
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Cryptotina
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November 07, 2018, 02:51:33 PM |
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They are a clear scam. First they are saying they raised $136 m with just some 850 investors which they are claiming as institutional investors, seems absurd. Then the Manhattan fund which was supposed to have invested $1.5 million has a website hosted on same server as their official websites.
They are clearly a scam.
I read this article three times https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/There is one moment and I wanted to clarify with you: The Manhattan Blockchain Fund of which the Neluns ICO team told us it really is located at: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States? But at this address is located Deutsche Bank New York: 60 Wall St New York, NY 10005, United States. And here is the proof of this, here is the link to the official page of Deutsche Bank New York: https://www.db.com/usa/content/en/Contact.html This is the address of the Deutsche Bank New York and The Manhattan Blockchain Fund is no any fund there. It also means that The Manhattan Blockchain Foundation does not exist. Did I understand everything correctly? Yes you're absolutely accurate on that. And do you also noticed that all nelunsbank.com, neluns.io sites and even their “secret” foundation themanhattanfund.com are created on the same template? Meaning its hosted on one server, and also registered with just one domain name registrar. You can check domain names here: https://www.whois.com/whois/
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smoolae
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November 07, 2018, 06:32:07 PM |
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Can really smell something worrying here, like:
The price of one NLS token will reach $1,200 by 2021.
It just seems kinda weird that some coin's bounty would present this kind of info so surely like it was the only possible outcome in the point of view from the coin's price.
It all can be a totally worthless worrying but still, seems weird.
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November 07, 2018, 09:32:35 PM |
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I thought this is the same NEL that Woshib before posted if i'm not mistaken. Then it rings a bell when I saw the manhattan fund article that they have raised more than $100m. This is really alarming if that many bump posts by newbies in their ANN have raised fake marketing for other new investors. Good thing we still have concerned members not just being blinded by the rewards of the bounty or any rewards campaign.
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