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November 05, 2018, 01:56:37 PM
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I would like to start that thread have nothing to do with requesting removal of my negative feedback.
I would like to ask, why people who help the community got tagged ?
I mean, yeah, i used different sources to show how people should stay safe.
I noted that its not self written thread and it was taken from sources.
You calling me "plagiarizer".
Okay, you may be right but if the plagiarism is for something good what's the bad here ?
I didn't lie no one? I didn't do anything wrong ?
All i wanted is to help people with more information from different sources to stay safe ?
If i deserve ban, moderator should handle it.
But why everyone ruing the reputation of someone who try to help other people and also always using escrow ?
I don't get the idea to be bad to everyone just for mistake which didn't harm no one...
People with "powers" should help other members not just randomly point them with the "bad" finger and put them bad names.
All my intentions of this thread was only to help people with information and i never mislead anyone that thread was self written and i stated it was taken from different sources.
Also there was no such thread existing on bitcointalk and i decided to help people with information.
If i deserve ban for my mistake, i will take it with proud that i tried to help people with information but i get punished for that.
But getting tagged for things like this is absurd.
I've done many and many deals here and never had single problem, always used escrow and never mislead with anything anyone.
Tags should be for bad people, not for people trying to make the things better around.

The Pharmacist feel free to check my post activity or ask MinerJones for me.
I am honest buyer and i never did anything wrong around.
Just for a simple mistake, you should not judge people and ruin everything for them.
People learn from their mistakes and move on.
That's what im going to do if i deserve some time ban for the help i was trying to provide to people who don't know that information.
If you think that i have any other intentions than helping people with that thread, i can send my merit to anyone you wish, because i don't care about any ranks, merits or benefits.
Im here to do honest business and to help people.
If im doing wrong by helping people then i will never do it again.
I fully understand what plagiarism is.
I never used it for something wrong or bad and i did mistake.
Not everyone here have something else in mind than the thing he's doing (trying to help other people with information).
And once again, if i deserve ban for my mistake i will gladly take it, but this tag is really absurd.
Why i take it as absurd ? Because im proven legit to all people i've deal with and always used escrows for my deals.
Always suggested safe ways of doing everything around and never abused anything.
We all do mistakes and we should learn even the hard way of them.

Pharmacist, you should help us not judge us so hard.
Who are "us" ? Well the people who trying to make the things better for this community.
Even with plagiarism.
I didn't do that to harm/earn anything but only to help people with information.
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I don't trust content thieves, hence the rating.  And you keep trying to justify your plagiarism by stating how helpful you were trying to be to the community.  You just don't get it.  You could have posted anything you wanted from helpful internet articles, and the only thing you needed to do was to give credit to the original source--and you didn't.  You passed off all that "helpful" information as your own words.

Why are you not banned yet?

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November 05, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
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I will also like to say that i never lied.
I stated this information was taken from different sources.
I never mislead anyone.
All i wanted is to help people with some information.
Im pretty sure i violated the rules by doing that so i will take my responsibility for those actions.
But consider i did nothing wrong to people but only trying to help them, i don't deserve to be tagged for something like that.
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November 05, 2018, 02:06:44 PM
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I don't trust content thieves, hence the rating.  And you keep trying to justify your plagiarism by stating how helpful you were trying to be to the community.  You just don't get it.  You could have posted anything you wanted from helpful internet articles, and the only thing you needed to do was to give credit to the original source--and you didn't.  You passed off all that "helpful" information as your own words.

Why are you not banned yet?
I'm not content thief, i am person who found different ways to show people how to stay safe and not being scammed around.
I didn't pass that helpful information as my own words because i clearly stated on the first page before everything was written on it that it was taken from other sources.
And just to let you know, not the all information on it was taken from somewhere else.
I write a lot from it by my own and i edit it for the bitcointalk users and not for those which was originally addressed to.
There is still people around like me who trying to help other people just like that.
Even that i violate bitcointalk rule which i don't deny, i still did the right thing to provide helpful information so people can stay safe.
Why i am not banned? I don't know i am not mod.
But i also self reported my thread.

Just to let you know, i do help the community everyday and you can see that by all my reports here -> http://prntscr.com/lemg4w
Im not a bad person, i just did mistake, and you judge me like i am some scammer or bad person Cheesy

Also your feedback sounds like i am some kind of bad person or someone who is doing something wrong...
Lol i just did mistake to violate bitcointalk rule and i will take the responsibility for it.
But why you trying to make me look bad when i am not ?
Why you are in the "default trust" ?? Not to help people but only to judge them ?
Alright, i know the thing i did violate the rules and im really sorry for it, but your acts against me are like i am some kind of criminal or someone who have bad intentions.
I do realize i did the things wrong but you doing the things wrong also.
Instead of judge people hard, try to help them out with information.
Instead of judging me hard for making mistake, help me and teach me...
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November 05, 2018, 02:23:07 PM
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If i deserve ban for my mistake, i will take it with proud that i tried to help people with information but i get punished for that.
If so why you removed the post?

Who are "us" ? Well the people who trying to make the things better for this community.
Even with plagiarism.
Plagiarism is highly restricted according to forum rule.

trying to help other people with information
You could do that by inserting quote. If you quoted then it can be considered helping instead of plagiarism.

Why are you not banned yet?
It may happen. No one know, when it will happen.
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November 05, 2018, 02:24:03 PM
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I feel if i did something wrong i should take what i deserve for my mistake.
But your tag makes me look like i am some kind of bad person, scammer or criminal which is not true.
If i deserve 1-3-6 months ban for that i will gladly take it.
But i do not agree i should have the look of bad person because of that kind of mistake.
All my intentions was to help people !
If you think i did that to earn something, just let me know how to send or erase all my merits Smiley I don't care about any benefits believe me.
I am here to buy and sell stuff and to help people.
But from now on i will never help anyone but only doing my deals thru minerjones
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November 05, 2018, 02:26:19 PM
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If i deserve ban for my mistake, i will take it with proud that i tried to help people with information but i get punished for that.
If so why you removed the post?

Who are "us" ? Well the people who trying to make the things better for this community.
Even with plagiarism.
Plagiarism is highly restricted according to forum rule.

trying to help other people with information
You could do that by inserting quote. If you quoted then it can be considered helping instead of plagiarism.

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I removed the post because i did something wrong and i realized it.
I can put that post again if you like i have no problem, but seems like i did something wrong.

2. Im really sorry for violating bitcointalk rules by doing that and i will be more than happy to take the responsibility about my actions and will take my ban for some time.

3. I can't quote offsite things. This information was not in bitcointalk to quote it on my thread. It was taken offsite from different sources which i clearly stated on my thread.

I have nothing to hide and by helping people staying safe and not being scammed, i was felling super comfortable opening this thread.
I will repeat myself once again, seems like i did something wrong and i will gladly take my ban.
But being tagged like a scammer or someone doing shady things around is not acceptable.
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November 05, 2018, 02:40:48 PM
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I will share my opinion why i don't deserve red trust tag.

1. Yes i did violate bitcointalk rule without knowing that so i deserve somekind of punishment.
2. My thread didn't harm anyone and has nothing to do with something that can harm anyone around but only help them with information.
3. Red trust tags should be for people who did something which will harm the community or other people.
4. I never ever did anything wrong to no one on the forum, never abused, lied, scammed but did only mistakes which should be punished by Moderator.
5. With that red trust i look like i am bad person who harm, steal, lie people which is not true ( everyone can track my post history and my trades to see i am honest person)
6. I respect everyone around and i also think that if someone do mistake without harming no one, he should be learned how to do the things right and not do mistakes to violate rules.
In first place we are humans and we all do mistakes, thanks god my mistakes didn't harm no one and was not able to harm but only to help people with information.
7. I'm not innocent about violating bitcointalk rules because that's true ! I did violate them without knowing and im really sorry about it and i will take the punishment.
But being tagged like some criminal,scammer or liar is more than absurd...
8. I never said that it was full hand written by me and i clearly stated the information was taken from different sources.
Not in last place i would like to say that some of the information was not taken from anywhere but written by myself.
So if that can be called plagiarized its not fully plagiarized but partly. Which does not make me innocent at all.
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November 05, 2018, 03:56:53 PM
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3. Red trust tags should be for people who did something which will harm the community or other people.

You don't feel taking someone else's work without paying for it doesn't harm the community?  It makes other people less likely to create original content.

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November 05, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
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3. Red trust tags should be for people who did something which will harm the community or other people.

You don't feel taking someone else's work without paying for it doesn't harm the community?  It makes other people less likely to create original content.
This "work" was created years ago off-site.
If i can find the creators i will gladly pay them to use their knowledge how people can stay safe and not being scammed.
I will be more than happy paying them for their offsite guides to use them here to make people feel more safe for their trades.
This guide was posted for fist time by me here, and if there was someone posted it before me, feel free to msg me with your price for posting it, i have no problem paying for that.
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November 05, 2018, 04:31:14 PM
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I got red trust twice, one from scammer who I exposed, another one from guy who posted it while his incomming transaction was processing. Didn't get them removed, don't think you will since you broke the rules and I never did.

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November 05, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
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I got red trust twice, one from scammer who I exposed, another one from guy who posted it whole his transaction was processing. Didn't get them removed, don't think you will since you broke the rules and I never did.
Rules violations should be punished by Moderator not by default trust people who have powers to make your profile looks like you are bad person or scammer.
All i did wrong is to violate bitcointalk rule which i didn't know but i fully understand now and i will gladly take my punishment such as some time ban.
But someone to tag my profile like i am person who is lying, scamming or doing anything bad is not acceptable...
In mind to help people stay safe, use escrow and giving him options to always be safe and helping the community, i don't feel i deserve red trust.
Yes i do deserve punishment but from Moderator based on the bitcointalk rules.
I still don't understand why i got red trust for trying to help people ?
Yes i did plagiarism and yes i am so sorry doing it without knowing its not allowed to use off-site guides to help people around.
I didn't make anyone lose time or money or anything by reading my thread and i did not harm anyone.
I always advice using escrow and in 99.99% of my trades i used escrow.
You can't judge some person just for a simple mistakes lol.

*I fully respect "The Pharmacist" and his opinions and decisions but this time i don't feel that right.
People should be red tagged for doing wrong things to people or the community.
That kind of mistakes and violates of rules should be punished by Moderator if he wants to.
I am not a bad person and i did nothing wrong to the community to be tagged like all the scammers being tagged.
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November 05, 2018, 05:56:38 PM
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If i deserve 1-3-6 months ban for that i will gladly take it.
If you did plagiarism it is not three or six months,your ban will be permanent,if you are ready to accept pemaban means your account will be no use after that.

I am here to buy and sell stuff and to help people.
If you want to buy and sell things you can just use this account as well,your trust rating is not for scam so it will not affect your trades anyway.

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November 05, 2018, 05:58:01 PM
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If i deserve 1-3-6 months ban for that i will gladly take it.
If you did plagiarism it is not three or six months,your ban will be permanent,if you are ready to accept pemaban means your account will be no use after that.

I am here to buy and sell stuff and to help people.
If you want to buy and sell things you can just use this account as well,your trust rating is not for scam so it will not affect your trades anyway.
And who are you again ?
People do mistakes.
This "plagiarism" was edited and managed to be used on this forum with my words and adds from my side.
This "plagiarism" was created to help and protect people.
Mod will decide how to act.
And for sure i will use my account to trade and buy stuff, who else consider i have just my account lol.
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November 05, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
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Plagiarism is plagiarism, doesn't matter post how useful is. It's against of forum rules. If you haven't read rules then how you believe your post will help others? You have no right copy paste or spinning content from others website even you mention. You are allow to use quote only specific part for reference if necessary. Otherwise it will be consider plagiarism. On the other hand, you made post on meta and again post on reputation with same link to invite peoples for read your post. Do you think its right ? Or forum peoples is blind that you have to invite again. Its not right way to highlight yourself very fast. You have got red tag due to your mistake. I don't think you should open another thread for that. There is reference why are you got red tag. Although you deleted your main thread but there is Archived version.

@The Pharmacist, you should use archived version for tag anyone(IMO). Especially account seller/buyer. Sometimes they might delete post and will claim against you. Its safe for you archive evidence before you leave negative feedback.    

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November 05, 2018, 06:58:28 PM
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Plagiarism is plagiarism, doesn't matter post how useful is. It's against of forum rules. If you haven't read rules then how you believe your post will help others? You have no right copy paste or spinning content from others website even you mention. You are allow to use quote only specific part for reference if necessary. Otherwise it will be consider plagiarism. On the other hand, you made post on meta and again post on reputation with same link to invite peoples for read your post. Do you think its right ? Or forum peoples is blind that you have to invite again. Its not right way to highlight yourself very fast. You have got red tag due to your mistake. I don't think you should open another thread for that. There is reference why are you got red tag. Although you deleted your main thread but there is Archived version.

@The Pharmacist, you should use archived version for tag anyone(IMO). Especially account seller/buyer. Sometimes they might delete post and will claim against you. Its safe for you archive evidence before you leave negative feedback.    
Every single guide for safety trading including escrow usage is helpful yeah.
My only mistake was to not put credits where the sources of the guides coming from.
Anyway once again it was noted this guide was made from several sources including personal knowledge.
Yes it is half plagiarism and i should be punished by MOD not tagged as scammer/liar or bad person.
Was trying to protect newbies and help people with information not to highlight myself.
As i stated 100 times so far, i have no interest of any ranks,merits and anything else.
If there is way to giveaway all my merits, let me know how to do it, i have no usage or care about any highlights,ranks or benefits but only trying to help newbies with information.
There was no such guide on this forum and everything was taken offsite and edited to be used on this site.
That's not plagiarism taken in-site but off-site to help bitcointalk newbies and nothing more.
My main thread is deleted to not be counted as permanent "plagiarism" but fixed after mistake was realized.
If i am allowed, i will gladly open the same thread once again because it was made to help people not to harm them.
I have nothing to hide, and i don't hide the fact that i created guide how people could be safe using escrow and safety tips to not being scammed.
I am proud for trying to help people with information which was not shared on this forum but off-site.
This plagiarism has nothing to do with the copy/paste shits from this site used again to this site.
This thread was edited not only copy/pasted by myself not from this forum but to help people on this forum.
Instead of making people who trying to help the community looking bad with those tags use them for the scammers and the people trying to harm the community.
My intentions was clear ! Only to help people with information for their own safety.

I never claim that i didn't create that kind of thread, actually i am proud for trying to help users around.
Who did i plagiarize ? Show me who ? Are they people in this site ? I don't think so!
If they are, feel free to show me proof with your old-dated post with the same guide with your price.
I will gladly pay you to use part of it to create new edited one to help people not being scammed.

*Those threads were free made ones and from different sources.
** They were not paid and created from people like me - People who like to help newbies with guides how to stay safe and not being scammed.
*** You calling plagiarism something taken off-site but never shown here? Well that plagiarism is good plagiarism !!! Taken from people who want to help to be used for help !!!
**** None of the original creators of those off-site guides didn't mention they can't be used on different places to help people!
***** Actually they will be proud if someone use them to protect and help people and will never be salty or bad against people who trying to help

****** You should realize the big difference between good and bad plagiarism, and that's only half plagiarism because i own this thread not by only copy/paste and never took anything from no one who posted on this website.
******* And yes, i'm feeling super happy to be able spreading super useful information for newbies how to stay safe, use escrow and stuff like that.
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November 05, 2018, 07:29:41 PM
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Yes it is half plagiarism and i should be punished by MOD not tagged as scammer/liar or bad person.

There isn't something as half plagiarism.
Check out this article https://ori.hhs.gov/plagiarism-0

'28 Guidelines at a Glance on Avoiding Plagiarism'

Guideline 1: An ethical writer ALWAYS acknowledges the contributions of others to his/her work.
Guideline 5: Whether we are paraphrasing or summarizing we must always identify the source of our information.

What you did was plagiarism because you didn't mentioned the source.
You didn't follow the forum rules.

I dont see the words scammer/liar or bad person in the negative trust:
This account will hopefully be banned, but in the off chance it doesn't, this member is a plagiarizer and doesn't even seem to understand what plagiarism is.
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Yes it is half plagiarism and i should be punished by MOD not tagged as scammer/liar or bad person.

There isn't something as half plagiarism.
Check out this article https://ori.hhs.gov/plagiarism-0

'28 Guidelines at a Glance on Avoiding Plagiarism'

Guideline 1: An ethical writer ALWAYS acknowledges the contributions of others to his/her work.
Guideline 5: Whether we are paraphrasing or summarizing we must always identify the source of our information.

What you did was plagiarism because you didn't mentioned the source.
You didn't follow the forum rules.

I dont see the words scammer/liar or bad person in the negative trust:
This account will hopefully be banned, but in the off chance it doesn't, this member is a plagiarizer and doesn't even seem to understand what plagiarism is.
Okay then, consider my guide was not fully copy/pasted then how we should call it ? Not plagiarism ?
An ethical writer will always allow helpful guide to be used anywhere to help people everywhere.
Yes i did not follow the forum rules and im sorry for that, next time i will show the sources.
Im not saying he did called me scammer, i said my profile looks red like the scammers accounts look like.
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November 05, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
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Why this account isn't banned for plagiarism?
All I can see here is Rambotnic trying to convince people that plagiarism isn't plagiarism.
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All i did wrong is to violate bitcointalk rule which i didn't know
I can only imagine OP driving car above speed limit and explaining to cop that he did't know anything about speed limit.

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Why this account isn't banned for plagiarism?
All I can see here is Rambotnic trying to convince people that plagiarism isn't plagiarism.
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All i did wrong is to violate bitcointalk rule which i didn't know
I can only imagine OP driving car above speed limit and explaining to cop that he did't know anything about speed limit.
Did i plagiarize from this forum ? I don't think so.
I managed few off-topic guides in thru one.
Why should i be banned ? Cheesy For trying to help people stay safe and use escrow ?

How you can contact driving car with fast speed with helping people to not being scammed and use escrow ? Cheesy:D:D:D
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