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November 08, 2018, 05:04:15 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 01:32:21 AM by frodocooper
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You... I guess they nailed it lol.

Missed that post, as it would have been so much easier to just quote and say he nailed it with a link. Nice when at the end you can trust a good source.

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November 08, 2018, 06:03:12 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 01:34:05 AM by frodocooper
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Spec wise we're probably looking at 28-30th/s at 1500ish draw. Looking at market could see a price range from $1.2k-2.2k. Most likely on the low end to compete with the T25.

Also the added tariff is 25%, for a total of 27.6% duty to the US.

I guess I was pretty close to.

Pricing looks ok.



On the cn web the t15 batch 1 sold out. Second batch is more expensive?

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November 08, 2018, 01:51:19 PM
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Pricing on it is up but still no hard specs or delivery date. $1,475.00
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020181107195820131prWuuVTy0738
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Also checkout point-8 in their description re duty and tariff.

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November 08, 2018, 02:09:46 PM
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most of these S15 and T15 are going to be on the ebay soon.
Its a good step to the next level for Bitmain but not very profitable models and shipping is going to happen on a month from now.
ROI  is from 10+ month to never
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November 08, 2018, 02:15:13 PM
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Waste of money, $2.42 a day...  Embarrassed
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November 08, 2018, 02:18:31 PM
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most of these S15 and T15 are going to be on the ebay soon.
Its a good step to the next level for Bitmain but not very profitable models and shipping is going to happen on a month from now.
ROI  is from 10+ month to never

Also this is technically third batch dates from the Chinese site releases I believe.

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November 08, 2018, 03:07:26 PM
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Wow.....the price really killed it, I cancelled my pre-order. Most of the orders now are from resellers.
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November 08, 2018, 06:20:41 PM
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I wouldn't spend crypto on it. Blokforge has them available with credit card and total is about the same you'd pay ordering from Bitmain after tariff and shipping if you're in the U.S. Pricing is better than anything else on the market and I don't see price dropping unless Innosilicon, Canaan, or another manufacturer engages in a  price war.
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November 08, 2018, 07:33:00 PM
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I wouldn't spend crypto on it. Blokforge has them available with credit card and total is about the same you'd pay ordering from Bitmain after tariff and shipping if you're in the U.S. Pricing is better than anything else on the market and I don't see price dropping unless Innosilicon, Canaan, or another manufacturer engages in a  price war.

No you'll still need to add in shipping and card fees at checkout with them, ordering from Bitmain is much cheaper.

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November 08, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
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No you'll still need to add in shipping and card fees at checkout with them, ordering from Bitmain is much cheaper.

Are you selling them?

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Maybe I will get one from you all.

Shoot me a pm as I am not sure of your pricing

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November 08, 2018, 09:28:49 PM
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No you'll still need to add in shipping and card fees at checkout with them, ordering from Bitmain is much cheaper.

With tariff and shipping, Bitmain price is at least $2k ($1475 + $407 tariff + $130 shipping). Blokforge is $2200 shipped with card fees. If you have Bitmain coupons I suppose it may be better to order direct, but I'd rather support a U.S. business when difference is minimal especially when they've helped me out with free product in the past.
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November 08, 2018, 09:40:01 PM
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Are you selling them?

https://minefarmbuy.com/

Maybe I will get one from you all.

Shoot me a pm as I am not sure of your pricing

Unless it's a group buy pricing is static with us and we return unused funds. S15 we might be able to get US batch 1 in volume but probably not a single unit. This is were resellers like Blokforge are good. I don't think we've sourced for them yet but would be cool to collaborate with another US company especially if they're good poeple to work with like sidehack and GS have been.

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November 08, 2018, 09:45:50 PM
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guys, S15 is crap. like comeone..2k usd with all customs,shipings,etc and doin 6usd per day with free electricity and 2.5usd with 0.1per kwh..
count the ROI ffs..2000usd price and 2,5usd per day...so 800days IF all stays same (diff, hash) which do not stay,everyone know that,right. it is better to buy BTC now for 2k usd,like 0.3 or so and u save nerves, noise, electricity.

someone who has free electricity,better buy S9i 14.5TH included PSU for 400usd+customs. 2x S9j still better hash than s15 and u still save money like 2x (600-700usd) vs 2000usd.

Ebang E11++ is doing 44TH / 1900W on 10nm samsung...and cost around 2000-2500usd...

if S15 would cost 800usd, i would buy one, but in this case..of course they make quality machines (i havent had any trouble with them)
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November 08, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
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With tariff and shipping, Bitmain price is at least $2k ($1475 + $407 tariff + $130 shipping). Blokforge is $2200 shipped with card fees. If you have Bitmain coupons I suppose it may be better to order direct, but I'd rather support a U.S. business when difference is minimal especially when they've helped me out with free product in the past.

Well if they're giving stuff away that's fun. Coupons go to our clients for use not to add to our profits.

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November 08, 2018, 10:18:26 PM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 01:38:49 AM by frodocooper
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guys, S15 is crap. like comeone..2k usd with all customs,shipings,etc and doin 6usd per day with free electricity and 2.5usd with 0.1per kwh..
count the ROI ffs..2000usd price and 2,5usd per day...so 800days IF all stays same (diff, hash) which do not stay,everyone know that,right. it is better to buy BTC now for 2k usd,like 0.3 or so and u save nerves, noise, electricity.

someone who has free electricity,better buy S9i 14.5TH included PSU for 400usd+customs. 2x S9j still better hash than s15 and u still save money like 2x (600-700usd) vs 2000usd.

Ebang E11++ is doing 44TH / 1900W on 10nm samsung...and cost around 2000-2500usd...

if S15 would cost 800usd, i would buy one, but in this case..of course they make quality machines (i havent had any trouble with them)

Don't forget to factor in the cost of 2 power supplies for the S9 option - and the MUCH lower efficiency that will eliminate it's profitability in the not-too-distant future.

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November 08, 2018, 10:38:21 PM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 01:39:14 AM by frodocooper
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Don't forget to factor in the cost of 2 power supplies for the S9 option - and the MUCH lower efficiency that will eliminate it's profitability in the not-too-distant future.

392USD included PSU for 14,5TH S9j. yes less profitability than S15 (14,5TH vs 28TH), however i mentioned that for those people with free/cheap electricity is S9j better option as give more hash (29TH vs 28TH) and cost less (800 vs 1500). someone whi has really free electricity, can have 4x S9j for same price 58TH vs 28TH....
just sayin...for people with expensive electricity is better option to BUY BTC directly.. someone with medium electricity rate, well,the need to really think about it...

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November 08, 2018, 10:45:59 PM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 01:39:31 AM by frodocooper
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392USD included PSU for 14,5TH S9j. yes less profitability than S15 (14,5TH vs 28TH), however i mentioned that for those people with free/cheap electricity is S9j better option as give more hash (29TH vs 28TH) and cost less (800 vs 1500). someone whi has really free electricity, can have 4x S9j for same price 58TH vs 28TH....
just sayin...for people with expensive electricity is better option to BUY BTC directly.. someone with medium electricity rate, well,the need to really think about it...

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020181107140901162lNTbtb4n06D4

Exactly right, these S15's are overpriced by almost 40%...
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November 09, 2018, 12:58:12 AM
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Exactly right, these S15's are overpriced by almost 40%...

they work if you have high power cost and run on 50 watt setting.  

if you have 15 cent power they turn profit of $23.70 a month

if you have a m10  it loses $22.36 a month.

now that is a frozen moment in time  and for long term  it is going to change a lot.

also bch is Daily Yield: ≈0.00037295 BCH Per TH/s    so 28 th is 0.01044 bch or  $5.99 a day with a split coming very soon.

btc is Daily Yield: ≈0.00003396 BTC Per TH/s   so 28th is  0.00095088 btc or     $6.09 a day  with no split

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November 09, 2018, 10:35:05 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 10:40:16 AM by frodocooper
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At 5 cents per kw I'm getting the money back next November....
Unless:
-it brakes down till then
-I get a hike in electricity prices
-Difficulty goes up (lols on this one)

Not that keen on mining again but till now seems like the s9 would still be the better option short term if only talking about bitmain products

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November 09, 2018, 11:06:22 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 01:02:56 PM by keksik
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At 5 cents per kw I'm getting the money back next November....
Unless:
-it brakes down till then
-I get a hike in electricity prices
-Difficulty goes up (lols on this one)

Not that keen on mining again but till now seems like the s9 would still be the better option short term if only talking about bitmain products

just buy BTC for same money... as next november u wont have same btc by mining. And if you like u can buy one S15 for 400usd that time and continue mining Cheesy
i dont know,mabye i sounds sceptical, but there are better miners than S15 and i see better option to buy btc directly when the price is relative low and save your nerve, noise,etc.. however 5cents sounds good.
for last 6 months diff went up from 4T to 7T+its almost double = your profit half. and then in 12months it will be even less. so if u see today that u will mine with S15 in year 0.36 then u are mistaken. if u will mine 0.2 that wil be success. now u can buy for 2 000usd around 0.3BTC lets say.

my point is it is overpriced, it should got for 800-1000 max with psu.

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