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November 08, 2018, 03:53:45 PM
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4. Post a study which does not directly refute anything posted

Let me quote it since you seem to be unable to click on a link. It's about as direct as it can get:

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This paper documents how low-level measurement error for survey questions generally agreed to be highly reliable can lead to large prediction errors in large sample surveys, such as the CCES. The example for this analysis is Richman, Chattha, and Earnest (2014), which presents a biased estimate of the rate at which non-citizens voted in recent elections. The results, we show, are completely accounted for by very low frequency measurement error; further, the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.

https://cces.gov.harvard.edu/news/perils-cherry-picking-low-frequency-events-large-sample-surveys
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November 08, 2018, 04:00:55 PM
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4. Post a study which does not directly refute anything posted

Let me quote it since you seem to be unable to click on a link. It's about as direct as it can get:

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This paper documents how low-level measurement error for survey questions generally agreed to be highly reliable can lead to large prediction errors in large sample surveys, such as the CCES. The example for this analysis is Richman, Chattha, and Earnest (2014), which presents a biased estimate of the rate at which non-citizens voted in recent elections. The results, we show, are completely accounted for by very low frequency measurement error; further, the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.

https://cces.gov.harvard.edu/news/perils-cherry-picking-low-frequency-events-large-sample-surveys


Oh no, I read it. Also I already directly responded to it as you already presented that in the Snopes article:

"the number of non-citizens who voted illegally in the 2008 election ranged “from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum.” Their “best estimate” is that 1.2 million or “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”"

In short this Snopes hack job is largely focused on Trump's claims, not the veracity of the study itself, so you haven't debunked anything. The only attempt to even argue the veracity of the study itself is based on claims the surveyed parties "made mistakes" answering surveys, and the replies were just mistakes. So they went back and rejiggered the survey, and partially re-conducted it to get the desired result to try to claim the original was invalid.

This is classic massaging of statistics to get numbers you want, but I don't expect you to understand this if you think scientific journals qualify as "conspiracy sites". He simply found a way to widen the margin of error and then disappear real results into that gap, then look, poof, they are "invalid".  The author even makes dumb statements like there were ZERO illegal immigrant voters, which tells me a lot about his credibility and bias right there.


Perhaps you aren't even reading your sources?
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November 08, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
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Automatically registering tons of illegals to vote..
Don't worry, NONE of them have or will ever vote, because it's illegal for them to vote and they respect our laws so much..

If they respected our laws they would be on the other side of the border..
Since they don't respect our laws they need to be put back on the other side of the boarder..

Improper entry is a crime, every last one is a criminal..
Identity falsification is also a crime, as is falsifying documents..

They have to go back..

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November 08, 2018, 04:15:36 PM
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Oh no, I read it. Also I already directly responded to it as you already presented that in the Snopes article:

So ...

a peer reviewed study from a respected peer reviewed journal

... is a good source only if it meets your preconceived notion of "many" illegal voters. Anything that doesn't is automatically false, biased, not credible.

How about the lack of "many" criminal prosecutions and convictions of such illegal voters? Does that mean anything or is it another conspiracy?
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November 08, 2018, 04:19:54 PM
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Oh no, I read it. Also I already directly responded to it as you already presented that in the Snopes article:

So ...

a peer reviewed study from a respected peer reviewed journal

... is a good source only if it meets your preconceived notion of "many" illegal voters. Anything that doesn't is automatically false, biased, not credible.

How about the lack of "many" criminal prosecutions and convictions of such illegal voters? Does that mean anything or is it another conspiracy?


Except I didn't just attack the source. I refuted its contents.
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November 08, 2018, 08:54:15 PM
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https://twitter.com/Tim_Canova/status/1060575611868114944
Caught On Video: Concerned citizen sees ballots being transported in private vehicles & transferred to rented truck on Election night. This violates all chain of custody requirements for paper ballots. Were the ballots destroyed & replaced by set of fake ballots? Investigate now!

Twit link for the video.. Edit- or https://youtu.be/jvVrcVZojNA



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November 08, 2018, 09:44:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/Tim_Canova/status/1060575611868114944
Caught On Video: Concerned citizen sees ballots being transported in private vehicles & transferred to rented truck on Election night. This violates all chain of custody requirements for paper ballots. Were the ballots destroyed & replaced by set of fake ballots? Investigate now!

Twit link for the video.. Edit- or https://youtu.be/jvVrcVZojNA

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November 09, 2018, 12:05:28 AM
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The midterms watch isn't over quite yet..
Little Marco seems to be hot on the case - https://twitter.com/marcorubio
Hope he has enough water..


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November 09, 2018, 01:29:15 AM
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The midterms watch isn't over quite yet..
Little Marco seems to be hot on the case - https://twitter.com/marcorubio
Hope he has enough water..



I see that he hasn't stopped tweeting for some time, does anyone know if his claims actually have merit or if he's just doing this as a political stunt?

As I have seen a good deal of articles on the incompetency of the Broward County elections board.




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