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March 18, 2014, 04:01:29 PM |
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Mining at https://directpool.netMain reasons: 1% pool fee donations goto funding bitcoin projects It's PPLNS and last but not least, website layout is too sexy ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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March 18, 2014, 07:37:22 PM |
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ghash.io is the way to go !
I hope you're kidding. ghash.io has a dangerous amount of network share right now. It is the worst pool you could choose to mine on at the moment. Ignore the mumbo jumbo religious talk about network sanctity and 51% share and what not. Let Gavin worry about that stuff. You are here to get ROI first, right? ... Before your ASIC goes obsolete with the difficulty jumps. So Ghash.io is the way to go. One of every 3 blocks goes to them plus a short PPLNS means you ramp up quickly and start making money. Add a little on Eligius and volla you get half the blocks.... Best way to make $$$ ... and best of all they don't rip you off like the others with fees. I'd donate a little to Eligius though.
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March 18, 2014, 07:45:45 PM |
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Ignore the mumbo jumbo religious talk about network sanctity and 51% share and what not. Let Gavin worry about that stuff. You are here to get ROI first, right? ... Before your ASIC goes obsolete with the difficulty jumps. So Ghash.io is the way to go. One of every 3 blocks goes to them plus a short PPLNS means you ramp up quickly and start making money. Add a little on Eligius and volla you get half the blocks.... Best way to make $$$ ... and best of all they don't rip you off like the others with fees. I'd donate a little to Eligius though.
Technically any no fee site will have the same return in the long run. I'm bringing my systems back to 33% Eclipse, 33% Eligus, and 33% P2Pool. The money should roll in regardless. C
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March 18, 2014, 08:53:42 PM |
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Ignore the mumbo jumbo religious talk about network sanctity and 51% share and what not. Let Gavin worry about that stuff. You are here to get ROI first, right? ... Before your ASIC goes obsolete with the difficulty jumps. So Ghash.io is the way to go. One of every 3 blocks goes to them plus a short PPLNS means you ramp up quickly and start making money. Add a little on Eligius and volla you get half the blocks.... Best way to make $$$ ... and best of all they don't rip you off like the others with fees. I'd donate a little to Eligius though.
Technically any no fee site will have the same return in the long run. I'm bringing my systems back to 33% Eclipse, 33% Eligus, and 33% P2Pool. The money should roll in regardless. That is a good plan. If you want absolutely the lowest variance, you should divide your hash rate between pools according to their share of the network. If you want highest expected ROI you should choose the pools with the lowest fee (and payout of transaction fees and/or merge-mined coins) and the lowest risk of getting ripped off (either by the pool or the pool itself getting ripped off). The gold standard for the latter is running your own p2pool node (or solo mining of course). In reality you probably want something in between, which comes close to the mix described, although I also wouldn't rule out some small share on ghash, say 10-20%.
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March 20, 2014, 02:22:02 AM |
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The best pool fees I've seen is 1%, is there any better rates < 1%?
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March 20, 2014, 02:24:02 AM |
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Eclipse, DGM, nice, lousy luck this week but that's fine. Eligius: Nice bunch, takes a day to pay out with .04 payout threshold and 300gh going to it. P2Pool: No fees, you set up.
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March 20, 2014, 02:45:20 AM |
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Eclipse, DGM, nice, lousy luck this week but that's fine. Eligius: Nice bunch, takes a day to pay out with .04 payout threshold and 300gh going to it. P2Pool: No fees, you set up.
You can change the payout threshold of Eligius using the My Eligius page on their site (although most people who aren't tiny miners seem to set something close to one day). I haven't tried Eclipse. What do you think of Bitminter? 1% fee but they pay transaction fees and merge mine NMC, which Eclipse doesn't. Seems like that should come out about the same or maybe a little better. Also p2pool you don't need to set up if you use someone else's node, although there are certainly some disadvantages to that. There are lots of public nodes with 0% fee. Partial list here: http://p2pool-nodes.info/
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March 21, 2014, 01:07:40 PM |
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Thanks a lot for making this thread and many thanks to member for their answers, now I think I know which pool I want to join))
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March 21, 2014, 02:10:42 PM |
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The weird part is that even though I bitch a bit about luck on a site like Eclipse I did the math with some spreadsheets and the payouts are right on the money for the Month of March. So it is a fine pool to use, it's just the human tendency to focus on the losses (low luck rounds) and ignore the wins (good luck rounds).
Spreadsheets and bitcoin however do not lie. Fascinating.
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March 21, 2014, 09:32:22 PM |
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I'm in the same boat.
Also new to bitcoin mining. I've invested some cash in a used Jupiter. I'm not looking to get my money in lightning speed here, but would like to see me recover the cash and make some before things change with the new fast miners hit the ground.
I started with BTC Guild when I had PPS, daily income was about 0.08BTC
After a week, he decided to remove PPS, and so I didn't know what to do.....the PPLNS 24 hours estimate on the site showed 0.065/24H That was a big drop. I decided to switch to GHash. I mined with them for 39 Hours according to my calculations, I made 0.33BTC
Then I was reading all about P2POOL, so I decided to go with one, Elizium.name
I realized that after almost a full day, I had nothing. Yes, I know that I have to mine for over 24H on P2P to see something, but with difficulty going up..up... and money invested, I would like to see me recover as soon as possible, then play.
So I switched to 50BTC as it's still offering PPS.
But from my calculations, GHash seems to make me more than PPS.
Any thoughts??
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March 21, 2014, 09:48:48 PM |
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PPS has no variance. You always get the same. All the other methods have some variance, which means you get lucky or unlucky. Some days you get more than PPS, some days you get less. That's how it works. If you want no risk and just get absolutely steady income like clockwork you have to use PPS, but you will usually get less that way over time.
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March 21, 2014, 09:49:34 PM |
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The weird part is that even though I bitch a bit about luck on a site like Eclipse I did the math with some spreadsheets and the payouts are right on the money for the Month of March. So it is a fine pool to use, it's just the human tendency to focus on the losses (low luck rounds) and ignore the wins (good luck rounds).
Spreadsheets and bitcoin however do not lie. Fascinating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
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