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Imagine ignoring the President telling you, “That’s enough” and forcefully denying a young woman White House staff member trying to do her job. Then complaining about it all over the media when you’re not allowed back. https://i.redd.it/mdhg79vqkyw11.gif
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November 08, 2018, 01:25:05 PM |
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From the link... her job isn't violently attempting to grab the mic. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 08, 2018, 01:47:34 PM |
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So much for freedom of the press. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I guess if the press asks you questions you don't like, you just silence them. Seems like a fair and free democracy.
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November 08, 2018, 02:00:24 PM |
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So much for freedom of the press. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I guess if the press asks you questions you don't like, you just silence them. Seems like a fair and free democracy. I know all you leftists think illegally hijacking some one else's event, preventing others from speaking is free speech, but it is not. This is a White House press conference. No one has a RIGHT to be there. They are all invited, and as such must follow the laws, such as NO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTING THE STAFF for doing their job. Which is exactly what he did. He is lucky he didn't have charges filed as well.
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November 08, 2018, 02:10:48 PM |
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So much for freedom of the press. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I guess if the press asks you questions you don't like, you just silence them. Seems like a fair and free democracy. The press has their own mics. And anybody can get one. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 08, 2018, 04:56:26 PM |
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Everybody in that room was asking questions Trump didn't like, but he answered them.
Jim Accoster thinks the press room is actually "The Jim Acosta Show."
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November 08, 2018, 10:38:18 PM |
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PRO TIP: Putting your hands or any part of your body in contact with another person without their permission is in fact legally assault. Pushing, shoving, punching, or even brushing some one one's arms aside multiple times while they are in the process of recovering property that she is in legal charge of, and has every right to retrieve, is in fact assault.
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I saw that video over 10 times, all he did was stop her from grabbing the mic. If that's considered assault, then our justice system is fucked more than it already is.
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November 08, 2018, 11:13:48 PM |
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I saw that video over 10 times, all he did was stop her from grabbing the mic. If that's considered assault, then our justice system is fucked more than it already is.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/assaultYeah isn't it a shame you can't just use physical force whenever you like to get what you want when you have no legal right to it? I mean as long as you don't injure anyone it is ok right? No. Now prosecuting this, yes I agree would be excessive, however that doesn't change the fact that he very literally committed an act of assault.
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Technically, she touched him first if you watch the video. She assaulted him! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOya1a1V.jpg&t=665&c=6Wn9GcH8G48nfQ) God damn, violent white house staffer! Assaulting a journalist! Dude was just defending himself from an onslaught of the intern!
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Lets break it down for the slower bluer folks here... 1. Does he have a RIGHT to be present at this press conference? -No. 2. Did he have an opportunity to ask a question? -Yes. Nothing entitles him to have more questions answered immediately. 3. Was the microphone his property? -No. The microphone did not belong to him. 4. Does the custodian of property have the right to deprive that property from some one with no rights to it? -Yes. 5. What is the legal and technical definition of using force in an attempt to prevent some one from doing some thing they are legally entitled to do? -Assault. 6. Should he be prosecuted for assault? -No, this is only some thing retards on the left say in order to build the most extremist narrative possible here in order to distract from the fact that he shouldn't have behaved that way regardless of the law. 7. Are people really that upset about what Jim Acosta did? -Most people wouldn't stop to piss on Jim Acosta if he was on fire. No one cares about him except when he makes himself a nuisance. People are pissed because this is a BLATANT AND OPEN demonstration of the double standards the media has for the left vs the right. If the roles were reversed here and it was a conservative reporter and a liberal staffer they would be LOSING THEIR FUCKING MINDS and it would be on the 24 hour media loop for months. 8. Any of you remember this? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGfyrvRK0YIn short, this is why the left has no more credibility. At least on the right, you can expect people to do things conservatives do. The left has no substance, is unpredictable, extremist, and does not follow any rules, even the ones they make.
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November 10, 2018, 01:00:07 AM |
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Really disappointed I haven’t seen any Bruce Lee or Street Fighter edits of this video yet.
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November 10, 2018, 01:32:06 AM |
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Really disappointed I haven’t seen any Bruce Lee or Street Fighter edits of this video yet.
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Yeah isn't it a shame you can't just use physical force whenever you like to get what you want when you have no legal right to it? I mean as long as you don't injure anyone it is ok right? No. I know, right? So ridiculous. Everyone knows that in the Trump White House you are only allowed to grab women by the pussy.
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Yeah isn't it a shame you can't just use physical force whenever you like to get what you want when you have no legal right to it? I mean as long as you don't injure anyone it is ok right? No. I know, right? So ridiculous. Everyone knows that in the Trump White House you are only allowed to grab women by the pussy. That is a wonderful whataboutism you have there. I don't know if anyone has taught you but, words are different than actions, and women throwing themselves at you because you are rich is different than assault. You keep sticking with those talking points though, they are clearly working for you.
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November 10, 2018, 03:15:38 PM |
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Everybody in that room was asking questions Trump didn't like, but he answered them.
Jim Accoster thinks the press room is actually "The Jim Acosta Show."
+1 Jim had been told that he was to sit down, as Trump was done with his questions. I don't understand how people are going to be able to support someone who's openly not listening to the rules of the WH press conference. Even after this, he got up and started talking while someone from NBC was asking questions to Trump -- I don't get it folks.
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It's as simple as this. If Acosta was required by policy to hand over the mic, and he didn't, he was wrong. But if he was assaulted, he was in the right for protecting himself. Even if he was wrong about handing over the mic, the violence of the woman was wrong. Even if Acosta was fired for his actions, his act of self protection is part of universal law, and especially in the U.S. Wanna play politics? Go ahead. But Acosta was right in protecting himself. If Acosta was wrong in not handing over the mic, the woman was wrong in trying to take it from him by force. There is appropriate policy in place for both Acosta and the woman... a way to handle the situation peacefully. This whole thing is a political tug of war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 10, 2018, 06:55:57 PM |
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It's as simple as this. If Acosta was required by policy to hand over the mic, and he didn't, he was wrong. But if he was assaulted, he was in the right for protecting himself. Even if he was wrong about handing over the mic, the violence of the woman was wrong. Even if Acosta was fired for his actions, his act of self protection is part of universal law, and especially in the U.S. Wanna play politics? Go ahead. But Acosta was right in protecting himself. If Acosta was wrong in not handing over the mic, the woman was wrong in trying to take it from him by force. There is appropriate policy in place for both Acosta and the woman... a way to handle the situation peacefully. This whole thing is a political tug of war. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) This is false equivalency horse shit people always trot out when shit like this happens, allowing this double standard to continue. Taking some thing from some one's hand is not force (unless of course you have no rights to said property). Even if it was, a reasonable amount of force used to obtain your own property from some one with no rights to it is not a crime. Also it should be noted the act began with Accostas resistance to the legal act of taking the microphone back, not the other way around. The first to initiate illegal force is quite relevant to any case of assault.
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