Why isn't Meta considered to be an earnable board?

[Stedsm]

From discussions over any new topics related to forum, to some really hot topics and information (except those "Why was I banned?" threads), some exceptional exchange of great information is being done in the Meta board, but most of the signature campaign managers don't really feel that way or have other reasons for not considering it a place to be rewarded to post in. I'm here publicly asking this question to all those managers and if at least one manager of any signature campaign comes up and explain why they don't feel to allow us to earn on our (by saying our, it doesn't limit this thread to the signature campaign I'm currently enrolled in) posts that are made in Meta, the purpose of creating this thread will be fulfilled.

As well, can they allow few of the great posters to earn over their posts in Meta on the condition that the posts need to be exceptional and out of the box (like something super creative)?

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I don’t think that many signature campaigns skip post count on Meta. I can’t recall seeing any, although I don’t often browse the conditions of campaigns in general, other than the ones I participate in.

I’ve just browsed over 15-20 campaigns from the Bounty section, and they barely put restrictions to posting on sections. I’ve seen a few exclude Off-topic, Archival, and Marketplace (Altcoins), but not Meta. Local boards are sometimes excluded too.

Edit: Ok, I found one that excludes Meta, but it doesn't really seem like such a common exclusion practice.

[Pmalek]

Meta would in that case turn to a single Spam fest. I used to love to participate in the Altcoin discussions but now when I open it and see threads named Will ETH reach 1 Million, Can I get rich with ETH and similar I dont feel like writing there.
Users would use the opportunity to spam the Meta section also hoping that they can get a few merits here and there not caring about the quality they post at all.

But I would support the idea that participants of Bitcoin signature campaigns are allowed to post in Meta. For those campaigns accepting only Hero and Legendary ranks.   

[LeeLoo1899]

From discussions over any new topics related to forum, to some really hot topics and information (except those "Why was I banned?" threads), some exceptional exchange of great information is being done in the Meta board, but most of the signature campaign managers don't really feel that way or have other reasons for not considering it a place to be rewarded to post in. I'm here publicly asking this question to all those managers and if at least one manager of any signature campaign comes up and explain why they don't feel to allow us to earn on our (by saying our, it doesn't limit this thread to the signature campaign I'm currently enrolled in) posts that are made in Meta, the purpose of creating this thread will be fulfilled.

As well, can they allow few of the great posters to earn over their posts in Meta on the condition that the posts need to be exceptional and out of the box (like something super creative)?

I am not bounty manager and more exactly i am newbie but i support your suggestion. Meta board is where we build this forum to become better but most people do not pay much attention to it, The reason is simple because almost people are focusing on Alternate cryptocurrencies, Economy which have new, hot Projects for reward. Since Merit systerm came into being, Meta board was more vibrant and became the focus for people trying to make the forum better so we need to encourage that

[Coyster]

I think it depends on the projects/managers...
And it most times speak of how well or good Te project actually is or will be..

For example some projects limit it's hunters to post only in the Altcoin discussion board,and I personally stay away from such projects,considering the fact that their only aim maybe to promote their project at the expense of their forum(spam)

Good projects often times only limit the off topic board,and thus far all projects I'm currently on accept the meta board(That happens to be one of the most informative board on the forum)

I think from a bounties restrictions you can foresee what the project would look like in the future and how well it'll succeed

[LeeLoo1899]

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I don’t think that many signature campaigns skip post count on Meta. I can’t recall seeing any, although I don’t often browse the conditions of campaigns in general, other than the ones I participate in.

I’ve just browsed over 15-20 campaigns from the Bounty section, and they barely put restrictions to posting on sections. I’ve seen a few exclude Off-topic, Archival, and Marketplace (Altcoins), but not Meta. Local boards are sometimes excluded too.

I think it is because of the merit systerm, before many projects were not browsed on meta for consideration in the signature campaign, Meta board is more vibrant and far more useful since the merit system enable 

[gentlemand]

The meta audience is made up of two groups in the main - whining noobs and despairing old hands.

Neither are the greatest audience for a business. They want exposure where the most eyes are and it's not meta.

I agree that the discussion in there is often very interesting. Since it's so consistently excluded by campaign managers they don't feel the same way.

[S_Therapist]

To be honest, I would not count posts from meta if I would be a bounty manager, at least, it would help to reduce spamming on meta. People should visit meta with real interest, not for fulfilling the signature bounty requirements which sometimes turn meta quite boring. It's only and only my personal opinion.

[Luchinono]

To be honest, I would not count posts from meta if I would be a bounty manager, at least, it would help to reduce spamming on meta. People should visit meta with real interest, not for fulfilling the signature bounty requirements which sometimes turn meta quite boring. It's only and only my personal opinion.

Why wouldn't you count posts in meta, but do to other boards on the forum,dont you think every section on the forum needs probably the same attention...

If we're(bounty managers) to abstain from counting posts in meta, we'll likely do same to the BD discussion,AD discussion and all other boards on the forum..
That way we'll be eliminating signature campaign totally
If that was your suggestion/opinion then it could probably have been worthwhile,you make it sound like meta is the only board worth paying close attention to

[Stedsm]

To be honest, I would not count posts from meta if I would be a bounty manager, at least, it would help to reduce spamming on meta. People should visit meta with real interest, not for fulfilling the signature bounty requirements which sometimes turn meta quite boring. It's only and only my personal opinion.

Neither would I ever consider Meta as a preferable board to pay something for (knowing the fact that participants will kill the highly substantial posts' credibility and audience that Meta has got), if (and only if) I'm doing a bounty, but what about those campaigns that pay in BTC? I've seen the culture of spam is more in bounties compared to campaigns managed and paid in BTC, so don't you think those interesting topics in Meta will have some extra debates (just for being able to earn on a spicy comment - but an exceptional one and the deciding factor would be based under managers' choice)?

Meta would in that case turn to a single Spam fest. I used to love to participate in the Altcoin discussions but now when I open it and see threads named Will ETH reach 1 Million, Can I get rich with ETH and similar I dont feel like writing there.
Users would use the opportunity to spam the Meta section also hoping that they can get a few merits here and there not caring about the quality they post at all.

But I would support the idea that participants of Bitcoin signature campaigns are allowed to post in Meta. For those campaigns accepting only Hero and Legendary ranks.  

Not really, I believe users with higher ranks only and with good amount of merits should be allowed to earn through Meta board as even I'm aware of the fact that this could happen that Meta would turn into a holy spammy shit once any user of any rank is allowed to get rewarded for their posts there. The best thing would be to closely monitor and choose which of the posts truly deserve anything or nothing at all.

[r1s2g3]

To be honest, I would not count posts from meta if I would be a bounty manager, at least, it would help to reduce spamming on meta.

Going by this logic, I will not pay anything in Altcoin Discussion then.
As a bounty manager you are supposed to not to count any post that looks spam irrespective of board.

@OP
Actually, It fully depends upon what kind of target audience that project is looking. Meta is generally for forum rules and regulations. 50% of thread in Meta are of banned user and some user complaining about merits. They do not make a good target audience for a project.

[enhu]

Maybe because most of the topics in the Meta are just complains o the rules, merits and unbann request. Investors or anyone when is looking for something that would help them find a good discussion about investment or which BTC gambling site to go to won't end up going to meta. People who use google to find BTC and ICO investment goes somewhere else in the forum and some of these people can potentially be an investor or a gambler.

[LTU_btc]

I think it's mainly because Meta isn't a target audience of most projects, same like Politics & society, offtopic and most of local boards. Meta is place to discuss forum news, communicate with forum staff and etc, but not to discuss about cryptocurrencies, this is why most of projects aren't paying for posts made in Meta and some other boards

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I don’t think that many signature campaigns skip post count on Meta. I can’t recall seeing any, although I don’t often browse the conditions of campaigns in general, other than the ones I participate in.

I’ve just browsed over 15-20 campaigns from the Bounty section, and they barely put restrictions to posting on sections. I’ve seen a few exclude Off-topic, Archival, and Marketplace (Altcoins), but not Meta. Local boards are sometimes excluded too.

Edit: Ok, I found one that excludes Meta, but it doesn't really seem like such a common exclusion practice.

I think that mainly Bitcoin signature campaigns aren't paying for posts in Meta. Altcoin bounties probably are paying for posts in most boards of forum, including Meta. It doesn't cost anything to create tokens from thin air, and bounties prefer quantity over quality and want to be vissible in boards of forum.

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I’ve just gone over the BTC campaigns listed on @Mitchell’s thread (see Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns), and out of the 15 campaigns listed there, four exclude Meta, and an other one counts posts there as half. It’s a fair share there of BTC campaigns excluding or limiting Meta (33%), but those BTC campaigns are a small number compared to the overall pool of campaings, and I’ve barely managed to see any of such exclusions out of the BTC campaigns on that thread.

Your right that it is a more stated exclusion on the BTC campaigns, but on the overall picture it seems not to be a quantitative large amount.

[Lakai01]

I did a lot of signature campaigns in 2018 and didnt face any campaign which excluded the Meta board. Guess its a rather seldomly excluded board. Offtopic and Marketplace are usually excluded, sometimes Local Boards, too.