BYE BYE BTC (Continues)

[leopard2]

Whats different now:
1. China is OUT.
2. alts don't pump anymore. Like, at all, thanks to:
3. KYC fucking bs with exchanges. This means that:
4. crypto is no longer fun to play with.

We wouldn't have gotten the bubble we did if China was IN.

Alts went up so outrageously on such a stunningly empty basis that I'm amazed any of them are worth anything still.

When will you accept KYC as the next inevitable step to more people getting involved? It won't happen without it.

It'll be fun again. Not for a goodly while though.

Tend to disagree...more money needs to get involved...and question is will regulation bring in more money? Maybe. Maybe not.

From a newcomer's perspective, why buy crypto if you cannot own it? Any other asset class is like that, you can never truly own it. Crypto without KYC is a bearer instrument that you truly own, it cannot be taxed, seized or frozen.

If crypto is like a bank account, if tokens are like registered securities, why bother? And KYC hassle is also a huge, huge hurdle to a newcomer.

I bet there is a plan behind this regulation: make it harder to get into crypto!

I understand what you mean, regulation leading to more adoption, let's hope you are correct.

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[rodalutor]

Bitcoin survived 2011 and it survived 2014. What makes this time so different? It's a normal phenomenon for almost anything that it will go through cycles of bull and bear. It's the same with stocks, real estate etc. Bitcoin's time will come again, the question is not really if, it's just when.

This time around though we may be contending with a meltdown in the wider markets in which case things get a whole lot muddier. Bitcoin rose during an unbroken run upwards in everything. If that changes it could mean several differing outcomes.

Sure, I understand how the presents more difficulties this time around but those markets will also not stay in a downtrend forever. I don't believe that the world economy is currently ready to enter in to a recession, I think there will be a few more years first and for that reason I think that the financial markets (outside crypto) will recover fairly soon.

[gentlemand]

Tend to disagree...more money needs to get involved...and question is will regulation bring in more money? Maybe. Maybe not.

Pretty simple really. Non KYC places are being slowly executed or choosing to disappear or go KYC until there'll be nothing but KYC places left. And supposed decentralised exchanges are being hammered so that's now a dead end until true examples exist. You can't bring in more money if there's nowhere left to import it.

And KYC in no way stops you from withdrawing it. The first place that does do that won't last too long unless they're explicit about it from the off like Revolut or Etoro and they're rarely mentioned here.

[b3j0]

I like people who think critically but I don't like people who have thoughts too critical because it can make someone trapped in panic. just follow this storyline and still hold your bitcoin.

[Work4cryptos]

For years people have been talking about bitcoin dying but it won't die you can count on that. There is no
possible way bitcoin "dies" until the last person who has bitcoin shuts off their computer. Even when there is 1 single person in the network working to keep it up, bitcoin will always be alive. Bitcoin prices might have dropped recently but that doesn't mean it is any more dead than when it was alive during 20 thousand dollar peaks. Why do people keep believing the extremes will happen.

There were people who have bought bitcoin at 20 thousand dollar levels believing the price would keep going up and now there are people selling at these levels thinking it will go down further and even go as far as leaving the market. When it goes too high it drops, when it goes too low it goes up. Simple as that.

[greensheep]

People thinking this in 2014 I could understand, then there was fear of BTC dying.
In 2018, I think most people are not even considering this.

[Indamuck]

I believe this is the 5th time bitcoin has been declared dead.   This is the time to buy, all these people are screaming, crying, and spreading fud.

This is similar to the 2014 crash but I don't think it will last as long because the market is more mature now and there is a lot more money on the line.

[Lucky7btc]

I believe this is the 5th time bitcoin has been declared dead.   This is the time to buy, all these people are screaming, crying, and spreading fud.

This is similar to the 2014 crash but I don't think it will last as long because the market is more mature now and there is a lot more money on the line.

Well sell all that you own and put it all in bitcoin since you feel its the time to buy. BTC is going down its old, slow and uses too much electricity. What about that you don't understand? It was tied to Future trading so the elites can control it. They are going to crash it and roll out another crypto that will be used as a 1 world currency.

[Dig Bicks]

I believe this is the 5th time bitcoin has been declared dead.   This is the time to buy, all these people are screaming, crying, and spreading fud.

This is similar to the 2014 crash but I don't think it will last as long because the market is more mature now and there is a lot more money on the line.

Well sell all that you own and put it all in bitcoin since you feel its the time to buy. BTC is going down its old, slow and uses too much electricity. What about that you don't understand? It was tied to Future trading so the elites can control it. They are going to crash it and roll out another crypto that will be used as a 1 world currency.

lol if you believe that go short it on bitmex with 100x leverage, you will become a millionaire if you are right.

[dupee419]

BTC will continue to crash and in 2019 /2020 a world (mark) cryptocurrency will be in unveiled for all to use for buying and selling.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4331148.msg48041780#msg48041780

Where such information? Bitcoin has been falling for a year in a row and the current fall of crypto is not news. Yes, the owners are beginning to actively sell their coins, not even suspecting that the same situation was last year, when in early December bitcoin made TOTHEMOON and all stood with their mouths open. Don't repeat your mistakes! Keep your coins and wait until the price will creep up (and it will definitely creep, do not doubt).

People are like sheep they just do what other will be doing so they will sell when some people starts to sell but later they will regret for that so as you said we need to survive this hard situation to make more profits but we don't know exactly what is happening in the crypto market for the last couple of days the bitcoin starts to fall too much.

People are definitely sheeps, especially the ones who do not know anything about what is happening in the market, they follow the herd, if people sell, they will panic and sell, they are the ones who are easy to deceive, the people who are easily fooled, however, you guys must open your eyes and READ, it doesn't mean that there's a link or someone saying that it will continue to fall doesn't mean that it will continuously fall, keep your heads up and don't act as if you're blind, know what to do and don't just follow what other people are doing.

[Lucky7btc]

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[bitcoin31]

I don't think it is good idea if we bye to bitcoin. Because it is good if we buy again bitcoin  because it will recover again for sure and you will get more money. More bitcoin thatyou have more money to come. Please don't let bitcoin die here in cryptocurrency.

[Flor1982]

BTC will continue to crash and in 2019 /2020 a world (mark) cryptocurrency will be in unveiled for all to use for buying and selling.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4331148.msg48041780#msg48041780

Bullish market is already concluded that it will not going to happen this year so hopefully by next year it will come again so for now  i suggest that we should be use to this current market cheapest value that we should consider this as the fresh start for all investors and move on.

[onrise]

I like people who think critically but I don't like people who have thoughts too critical because it can make someone trapped in panic. just follow this storyline and still hold your bitcoin.

Bitcoin is never ending story for next few years and those who think it will end are making the mistake of not making money during this period of time as market is down currently so easily people can buy at the best rates and sell off during the high when it will reach and make good money.

[rat03gopoh]

Bitcoin is never ending story for next few years and those who think it will end are making the mistake of not making money during this period of time as market is down currently so easily people can buy at the best rates and sell off during the high when it will reach and make good money.

At least people aren't too sure now is the "best rates" to buy by spending all of their money. As you have said, the story never ends. Now that BTC is experiencing a tragedy stage (again) and whether it will get worse or less, how long this stage will end we don't know.

the problem is, how much ability do people have left with BTC in their hands following this story?

[Pursuer]

when you want to start a new bitcoin obituary you either need to be a big guy (like Warren Buffet) so that you can simply bullshit about bitcoin's death or you have to have some sort of originality and a good imagination to come up with a well designed bullshit. otherwise you will only be a laughing stock

in 2019 /2020 a world (mark) cryptocurrency will be in unveiled for all to use for buying and selling.

we are always hoping for a better cryptocurrency that has all the characteristics of bitcoin but works better. but so far we have only been promised "better" but seen "shit" instead.
and these things don't happen out of nowhere. there has to be some actual work on the way if we are to see a good cryptocurrncy be "unveiled". if you said in 2030 then your statement could have made sense because in 10 years a lot of things can change and it is more possible but in 2 yeas it simply is not going to happen.

[Lucky7btc]

when you want to start a new bitcoin obituary you either need to be a big guy (like Warren Buffet) so that you can simply bullshit about bitcoin's death or you have to have some sort of originality and a good imagination to come up with a well designed bullshit. otherwise you will only be a laughing stock

in 2019 /2020 a world (mark) cryptocurrency will be in unveiled for all to use for buying and selling.

we are always hoping for a better cryptocurrency that has all the characteristics of bitcoin but works better. but so far we have only been promised "better" but seen "shit" instead.
and these things don't happen out of nowhere. there has to be some actual work on the way if we are to see a good cryptocurrncy be "unveiled". if you said in 2030 then your statement could have made sense because in 10 years a lot of things can change and it is more possible but in 2 yeas it simply is not going to happen.

watch and see...

[arpon11]

Many speculators are saying bitcoin will continue going down and this might last till end of next year but I think we should still be positive as there is no major reason for this falling then the way bitcoin went up last year.  Many of us that has been following this market understand that the way bitcoin went up last year was not expected but a surprise move.  I think we should not think that it will continue down and from this moment we may began to see another bull run.  I just sow a clam back to $4,000 this morning and that was over $300 gain from were it was yesterday.

[BiedXbie]

Bitcoin will come out of this a lot stronger that is for sure. For two reasons, first of all those weak scammy bad ICO coins that have been lurking around trying to worth something will die. Even the most idiotic idea had an ICO last year and they have all got funded like millions of dollars. Hopefully the weak hands of trying to sell bitcoin at any given time will be gone as well. Which means we got rid of two toxic things that always lurking around trying to drop the price. Also Craig lost a lot of bitcoin by selling and spending it on hash war, which means he probably has some more bitcoins but at least he sold a lot of it. This way we now that he doesn't have the ammunition he used to have, another good news for bitcoin. Next time there is a bull run, we won't have to deal with these stuff, which is healthier.

[Lucky7btc]

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