BTC is a victim

[Dexion]

I want you give me a simple and clear answer, what is the purpose of the battle between BCHABC and BCHSV? do they fight for popularity and control the market? and when this condition will end ?
this is very sad, bitcoin and other crypto are victims.

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[Pursuer]

to take control and to make more money!

this has been the only reason why bitcoin-cash forked last year. they fooled people by social media drama about scaling and core developers corruption while creating a centralized altcoin that could make them millions of dollars.
now there is internal fights between the creators since they want more money and more control while kicking the other party out. so they are splitting the forkcoin into two. and while they are fighting internally they try so hard to pull bitcoin down while they fall hand in hand.

[Matthias K.]

and when this condition will end ?

All will end when we as society will become mature enough to not follow all fraudsters and liars just because they promise things.

[coin8coin8]

There are always some ridiculous facts about crypto. The problem of some altcoins always affects the whole market. I really can't understand that BCH's fork has caused the decline of Bitcoin and all altcoins.
This is not a phenomenon that can be seen in the normal market. Every crypto should be independent.

[dothebeats]

Primary motivation for such drama is money and who controls the lion's share of anything. Let's face it, cryptocurrencies are slowly succumbing to dirty politics and irrational people wanting to make a profit by deceiving most believers of the said cause. They are using the drama to gain more attention and followers in order to 'sell' their ideology, thus dividing the community further instead of coming up with a solution in order to move forward. Satoshi may have failed into coming up with an ultimate solution that deviates money from politics as we're already experiencing a mix of both again.

[CryptoRama]

and don't forget, BCH only changed one thing about blockchain and they thing they grabbed the motherlode, and also I have heard they promoted it like bitcoin, for bitcoin they said it was bitcoin core, and bitcoin cash just bitcoin or bitcoin cash so that they would pull the major community to bitcoincash... I mean those bastards

[franky1]

BCHSV and BCHABC are NOT THE CAUSE!!!

they knew as far back as the summer that new asics were coming which would make it cheaper for crtain farms to mine.
its the farms selling for profit while changing their asics.

the BCHSV and BCHABC drama is empty drama of no impact. they just timed it to be happening now to glory hound themselves to sound like they are the cause and to pretend they are influencers.

stop pretending they have power. their friggen altcoins. on a different network.
to even be able to tank the price they first need to convert their altcoin into btc to arbitrage the prices down.. and guess what. the market trading charts do not show this occuring

[hatshepsut93]

No, BTC is not a victim, whatever is happening right now is either a coincidence or a manipulation. Bcash has no influence over Bitcoin, it makes absolutely zero sense to sell Bitcoin because some altcoin is having civil war. It's probably whales and speculators trying to crash the market to make average joes panic and sell their coins, so these whales can buy back cheaper. This has happened many times - big crash, then rumors and FUD, and then Bitcoin suddenly jumps back when whales buy back.

[anitaraymonds]

One funny thing about financial politics is that their parent coin BCH is also going down may be to extinction. A lot of investors pull of money from Bitcoin and Etherereum to invest in the new and explosive twin coin BCHABC and BCHSV. It is also called business investment when you make a sound business move to remove money from a low-profit potential to higher profit zones. This move has really made all the other altcoins a victim.

[Beerwizzard]

A lot of investors pull of money from Bitcoin and Etherereum to invest in the new and explosive twin coin BCHABC and BCHSV.

According to your logic, people are selling all coins (because literally, everything from the 1st CMC page is red) in order to buy new scamcoins. Which is not true because BCHABC and BCHSV as I see are not growing right now while the entire market is getting huge losses.
There should be something else.

[Red-Apple]

BCHSV and BCHABC are NOT THE CAUSE!!!

they ARE the cause.

you kept saying price depends on miners profitability and kept insisting on $6k (or was it $5800) being the bottom because of miners. you were wrong then and you are still wrong.
now you are trying so hard to still say the same thing. miners do nothing to the price. even when they sell they do it off the market without putting any kind of sell pressure on exchanges.

going back to the drama, they are cause of the drop but not directly as their FUD goes. meaning they are not selling bitcoin to crash it the rest of the market is doing it for them out of panic of thinking they will and whales love this situation and have been shorting the shit out of bitcoin in the past couple of days. hence the big drop.

[Gloverwrt]

Considering the 1 : 1 ration of BCHABC that was released to BCH holders (now BCHSV) if you were to combine the worth peer coin on the market now, it's not worth as much as BCH was per token. So people are not selling their altcoins to buy them.
And the BCH saga is not sufficient enough to bring down the price of bitcoin and the entire cryptocurrency market.
I'd take @franky1's explanation of cheaper mining costs.

[@rt27]

Btc is a victim in a sense that it is used by scammers to scam the innocent people who are new or probably wants to get involved in crypto. Because of a lot of promises return they will instantly in the road to lose their money. Bitcoin is potential and real it is not fake and not scam.

[funchiestz]

I want you give me a simple and clear answer, what is the purpose of the battle between BCHABC and BCHSV? do they fight for popularity and control the market? and when this condition will end ?
this is very sad, bitcoin and other crypto are victims.

Everyone is thinking about their own profit. But they don't see one important thing. We all get damage from their war. Actually I think they are losing too, like us. But it is war. No one think about no one including himself.

[kryptqnick]

I want you give me a simple and clear answer, what is the purpose of the battle between BCHABC and BCHSV? do they fight for popularity and control the market? and when this condition will end ?
this is very sad, bitcoin and other crypto are victims.

They are just f*cking around and making things terrible for bitcoin while they decide who gets the money. Today I looked at the price, hoping to see $6k. What I saw instead was $4.5k. I feel devastated. I thought this kind of thing would never happen. Bitcoin was so good at not reaching anything below $5800! And then these ABC and SV disputes arrived and made it give up its previous position. It's extremely unfair that bitcoin is bleeding so much. It's a great currency, nothing really bad happened, it's just pure speculation around other stuff on the market. Bitcoin is indeed a victim and I don't know what to do. I have quite some money in btc. I thought it would definitely do all the way up to ath and then I'll be able to withdraw it from time to time. But hey, I don't want to end up losing everything, because once I thought $4500 wasn't a good price... I am sure I am not the only one experiencing this faith crisis or whatever. I keep holding, but it's getting harder and harder, even though it's not btc's fault.

[eminemcookie]

I want you give me a simple and clear answer, what is the purpose of the battle between BCHABC and BCHSV? do they fight for popularity and control the market? and when this condition will end ?
this is very sad, bitcoin and other crypto are victims.

They fight to be the dominant coin and have the main market share. Both believe that their vision is the one that will go on to be accepted around the world, especially SV. All coins are victims in this, including ABC and SV.

[Wingleness]

and don't forget, BCH only changed one thing about blockchain and they thing they grabbed the motherlode, and also I have heard they promoted it like bitcoin, for bitcoin they said it was bitcoin core, and bitcoin cash just bitcoin or bitcoin cash so that they would pull the major community to bitcoincash... I mean those bastards

Those things were said just to destabilize the market with investors battling with confusion on which is the real deal. Maybe their intention has finally paid off now with the drastically downtrend Bitcoin is undergoing.

[DooMAD]

There seem to be quite a few people in this thread who need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.  It's really not the big deal people are making it out to be.  Alarmist panic over nothing.

Sit back, eat some popcorn and enjoy the fireworks.  This amusing little sideshow is merely the flavour of the month.  We have these little dramas and then everyone forgets about them and moves on to the next over-hyped controversy.  Rinse, repeat.

[charlotte04]

I want you give me a simple and clear answer, what is the purpose of the battle between BCHABC and BCHSV? do they fight for popularity and control the market? and when this condition will end ?
this is very sad, bitcoin and other crypto are victims.

Truly Bitcoin is a victim from those people who use it and manipulated it. It should be used for good and for everyone to use for future enhancement of our modern currencies.

[munareal]

What is happening between BCHSV and BCHABC is not the cause of what is taking place in the crypto bearish marketplace. It is just a coincidence that things are happening at the time of  BCH fork. I do not think BCH fork has the power to affect bitcoin this way.