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November 21, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
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In my opinion they <Roger Ver and CW> are the major trigger for this dump. We <BTC> has lost almost 30% in value because these two idiots wants to show the rest of the world that they are the Alpha males in Bitcoin Cash.

We know that they are burning through money to accomplish this goal and CW stated that he would be dumping a lot of BTC to prove his point, so I guess this is what is happening now.

You only need a small spark to ignite a fire that will burn out of control and the Bitcoin Cash fork was the spark that was needed to cause this drop in the BTC price.  Angry Angry Angry

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November 21, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
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Both Ver and Wright are sad losers.


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November 21, 2018, 12:43:16 PM
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It seems like Roger's server is just being arrogant and too ambitious that making a roger ver like this, Rogers ver too makes the traders hate him for playing with prices easily and he's too greedy.

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November 21, 2018, 01:13:22 PM
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I feel this war was orchestrated in other for secret whale investors to buy cheap, leaving the weak in a dilemma as we are witnessing now. One time, you see a sign of recovery followed by another massive dumping. This hashwar might have been well planned by the major players. The richer keeps getting richer while the fearful setback and watch their asset been taken from them. Conspiracy

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November 21, 2018, 01:44:27 PM
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Ver and Wright are both driven by egotistic tendencies.

They care more about themselves and lining their own pockets than they do about anything else.

Neither it seems have any real care or concern for crypto or the community. It seems they are seeking personal gain in terms of status as well as money.

Ver created Bitcoin Cash because he lost the battle to try to take over Bitcoin. In the days after Bitcoin Cash was created it stated on the duplicitous bitcoin.com domain (which is owned by Ver) that Bitcoin was not democratic and that Bitcoin Cash had several teams and consensus would be the way forward.

Now the very thing Ver created to try to sell as the "real" Bitcoin has been hijacked by Wright who wants Bitcoin Cash SV to be the "real" Bitcoin.

There is only one Bitcoin simple. Others are low level forks such as Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Cash SV etc.

With Ver and Wright and all other pretenders humiliated, they should stop it and give up.

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November 21, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
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what im just doing is informing people that the dip was not craig/ver. they cant afford to waste funds and exchange arbitrage shows no pattern of them moving funds from their [alt/btc] then [btc/usd] to cause it

It most certainly was them. They've been inducing chaos in the crypto markets and encouraging people to get out and stand on the sides until the drama was over. This in itself has a panic-inducing effect which amplifies the whole scenario. Both sides also have deep BTC pockets that they can sell in order to either fund their silly hash war or prop up the price of their dying coins.

I tend not to believe a single thing CSW says but he is all for dropping the price of BTC to $1000 if need be.

I was about to post an image of his tweet that says so on twitter but he's done blocked me  Sad  Cry

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November 21, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
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OP are you f*cking nuts? Roger is not to blame at all, he just did his BCH upgrade.

It was CSW, Craigh Wright, who declared war on Roger and BCH and it was CSW who openly said that he is willing to destroy the entire crypto market by selling large amounts of crypto to finance his insane war.

Just google him and you will find out....

https://www.coinspeaker.com/hash-war-is-on-craig-wright-threatens-to-crash-bitcoin-price-down-to-1000/

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November 21, 2018, 05:18:18 PM
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Looks like Roger Ver and his Bitcoin Cash got the same treatment at the hands of Craig Wright that last year Ver himself tried to inflict upon Bitcoin.

Roger Ver failed to influence the path of Bitcoin so he created Bitcoin Cash claiming it was the "real" Bitcoin in the way Satoshi wanted it. Now Craig Wright has forked Bitcoin Cash claiming his Bitcoin Cash SV is the "real"  Bitcoin in the way Satoahi would have wanted.

Bitcoin Cash is obsolete thanks to this ABC/SV drama and because it is associated with Ver and Wright

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November 21, 2018, 06:01:42 PM
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Looks like Roger Ver and his Bitcoin Cash got the same treatment at the hands of Craig Wright that last year Ver himself tried to inflict upon Bitcoin.

Yeah, no, I see a difference between Roger calling BCH "the real bitcoin" and CSW calling his BCHSV "the real Bitcoin Cash" and then declaring a war that costs the community billions and billions of dollars, and threatening do actively destroy BCH via 51% attacks. If this was a regulated market (CSW loves regulation) then he would be in jail already.  Angry

Roger never attacked or threatened the rest of the community, or did he? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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November 21, 2018, 06:17:29 PM
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Looks like Roger Ver and his Bitcoin Cash got the same treatment at the hands of Craig Wright that last year Ver himself tried to inflict upon Bitcoin.

Yeah, no, I see a difference between Roger calling BCH "the real bitcoin" and CSW calling his BCHSV "the real Bitcoin Cash" and then declaring a war that costs the community billions and billions of dollars, and threatening do actively destroy BCH via 51% attacks. If this was a regulated market (CSW loves regulation) then he would be in jail already.  Angry

Roger never attacked or threatened the rest of the community, or did he? Correct me if I'm wrong.



It is a funny old world.

BCH vs BCHSV is now the new battleground for Ver.

For so long Ver tried to fool people in to calling Bcash/BCH the real Bitcoin but now we have someone calling Bcash/BCHSV the real Bitcoin.

In the end there is only one Bitcoin which is all about bitcoin.org and all the others are pretenders, low level forks such as BCH and bitcoin.com and of course BCHSV ...

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November 21, 2018, 06:51:42 PM
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ver and craig drama have nothing to do with bitcoin

this topic should be in the altcoin section or the speculation section
show me a chart where large volume is arbitraging from

[sv/btc] ^ just before a time of [btc/usd] v just before a time of [sv/usd] ^ and then repeat
if you cannot show an arbitrage from sv to btc/USD the craig is not doing jack crap

[abc/btc] ^ just before a time of [btc/usd] v just before a time of [abc/usd] ^ and then repeat
if you cannot show an arbitrage from abc to btc/USD the ver is not doing jack crap


i checked some and seen no arbitrage. so they are not tanking the exchanges
other factors are in play and the two drama queens are just beating their chests holloring they are the cause just for fake glory and to pretend they are influencers

go on show me a
[bch/btc[^]] then [btc/usd[v]] then [bch/usd[^]] then repeat
that is timed within the dips with measures that show amounts of volume enough to cover the dips


if you cant show a arbritrage pattern then dont even attempt to say they are the cause.

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November 21, 2018, 06:58:17 PM
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Looks like Roger Ver and his Bitcoin Cash got the same treatment at the hands of Craig Wright that last year Ver himself tried to inflict upon Bitcoin.

Yeah, no, I see a difference between Roger calling BCH "the real bitcoin" and CSW calling his BCHSV "the real Bitcoin Cash" and then declaring a war that costs the community billions and billions of dollars, and threatening do actively destroy BCH via 51% attacks. If this was a regulated market (CSW loves regulation) then he would be in jail already.  Angry

Roger never attacked or threatened the rest of the community, or did he? Correct me if I'm wrong.


I threats with his hand on the network are not met. To be honest, it seems to me that there is no difference between them. Yes, of course the main segments and concepts differ in different opinions, but in the end they talk about the same thing. And the saddest thing is that these conversations do not bring absolutely no results.

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November 21, 2018, 07:34:44 PM
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Roger Ver, a person who is greedy for wealth who always makes chaos in the world of cryptocurrency. While we are not consumed by propaganda, I think that is fine, but the more new bitcoin users refer to Roger Ver, I feel sad about that.
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November 21, 2018, 08:40:29 PM
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ver and craig drama have nothing to do with bitcoin

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go on show me a
[bch/btc[^]] then [btc/usd[v]] then [bch/usd[^]] then repeat
that is timed within the dips with measures that show amounts of volume enough to cover the dips


if you cant show a arbritrage pattern then dont even attempt to say they are the cause.

why? if CSW does as he said, he is selling BTC to fund his operation. He said he willl keep the BCH and sell BTC, and the crash started right away. He could very well be selling BTC across different exchanges or OTC desks.

He talked the talk, now he is walking the walk. With paper thin orderbooks a whale like him could very well trigger a crash like that (he says that too btw.)

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November 21, 2018, 08:42:24 PM
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Roger ver is not the person to blame for everything he has always supported bitcoin ! But Craig Wright started this war ! Roger ver had to join the fight he had no choice !

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If there's anyone to blame it's the people who don't understand markets and can only talk about celebrity gossip.  If you think these particular individuals have too much influence, that's probably because you're giving it to them by hanging on their every word.  If no one paid attention to them, they'd be irrelevant.  Remember that Simpsons episode?


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November 21, 2018, 11:34:21 PM
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How much BTC and BCH did Craig Wright hold?

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November 22, 2018, 04:28:18 AM
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ver and craig drama have nothing to do with bitcoin

this topic should be in the altcoin section or the speculation section
show me a chart where large volume is arbitraging from

...

if you cant show a arbritrage pattern then dont even attempt to say they are the cause.

Why do you insist that any of their ability to dump BTC is dependent on arbitrage?

Your alternative theory is "new asic miners"?? You need to provide evidence for your completely novel and unfollowed theory more than we need to provide evidence for ours.

https://ambcrypto.com/bitcoin-btc-there-is-no-liquidity-in-the-market-to-absorb-the-sell-off-says-bart-smith/

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/11/22/bch-usd-price-analysis-bitcoin-cash-wars-force-giga-watts-bankruptcy/

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/1048015/bitcoin-price-news-btc-sell-plunge-will-bitcoin-fall

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November 22, 2018, 07:40:51 AM
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How much BTC and BCH did Craig Wright hold?

Since Craig claims to be Satoshi, 1 million of each? Lmfao. But yeah, regardless of the truth of that statement, that figure is probably close to reality:

In the filing, Kleiman's brother includes what he says is email traffic between himself and Wright in which the entrepreneur indicates he may have been holding 300,000 of Kleiman's bitcoins.

Dave "mentioned that you had 1 million bitcoins in the trust and since you said he has 300,000 as his part,'' the computer expert's brother wrote. "I was figuring the other 700,000 is yours," he added in the email. "Is that correct?"

"Around that," Wright wrote back. "Minus what was needed for the company's use."

He could be burning through these for this drama.

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November 22, 2018, 07:50:08 AM
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If what was explained here is the fact then Mr. Var is the one to blame. What is the problem is he having with bitcoin team? Can't it be resolved so that market will correct now and move in the right direction?  Come to think of it, is bitcoin group helpless in this situation? can't they fight for their own and make sure that bitcoin survive this onslaught. Though we had a similar situation last year and bitcoin was able to survive and went ahead to make a new high.
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