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November 22, 2018, 02:31:20 AM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 
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November 22, 2018, 06:44:40 PM
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Decentralized Dice Games what are you looking for? I  play Decentralized Dice like tronbet, but this was very difficult because when I played I had to confirm with the Tronlink wallet and it had to wait a few seconds. you have the best luck to play to Decentralized Dice Games  Grin

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November 22, 2018, 09:27:46 PM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 
I don't really understand how that is possible. If there's a casino managing the funds, no matter how reputable it is, it is still centralized. Perhaps you mean decentralized as the provably fair dice website that uses cryptocurrencies. Then the first one to check out is Primedice. Most of dice websites will be pretty much similar to it anyway, so this one should be enough. If you want some awesome animation, I suggest you to take a look at True Flip. The latter is not popular and is pretty new, but their animation is awesome (there is a girl-octopus in the science lab when the dice appear!). If you meant decentralized as trustless (dapps), you should consider smart contract casinos. The only dice smart contract casino I know of is Vdice, which used to have very high minimum bets, but things might've changed.

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November 22, 2018, 10:30:37 PM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 
I second the motion on whats said above as long there are someone who do managed on the funds or do runs on the site then it will really be centralized no matter what.
I dont see a reason why you do seek off for decentralized ones yet we do only concern on the provably fair system on such dice game nonetheless.I have seen some EOS based
and smart contract based dice games but i would still stick to the traditional ones.

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November 22, 2018, 10:45:42 PM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 

I really don't have a site that list them but we do have a couple! ..anyway ! You may want to checkout eosjacks.com
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November 22, 2018, 11:46:59 PM
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There is a list of smart-contract based casinos out there, but I can't recall the URL of the site or the general name of it at this moment. I'll update this post if I do find it.

A few casinos I found that are decentralized just off the front page of a Google search included Edgeless (which claims to have 0% house edge), vDice, and also Etheroll. These sites should all be legitimate, as there were ANN threads for all of them and I did not find any major allegations against them.
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November 23, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 
That's a vague question. Decentralized dice websites and dice games are two different things. A game can be decentralized without the site running it. The site can't really be decentralized since someone has to manage user base, transactions and other stuff. Games can be provable fair and also smart contract enabled. People aren't really fond of playing the later.

Decentralized Dice Games what are you looking for? I  play Decentralized Dice like tronbet, but this was very difficult because when I played I had to confirm with the Tronlink wallet and it had to wait a few seconds. you have the best luck to play to Decentralized Dice Games  Grin
How and what do you confirm with the Tron wallet? Seems suspicious.
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November 29, 2018, 06:15:19 AM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 

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November 30, 2018, 01:40:48 AM
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If I understood well, the guy just want a dice game where each player bet whatever they want, and the chain itself (by mining, or whatever method) choose a winner and automatically pays.

0% house edge, because it is decentralized, and there is no "house" (nor "house edge")
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November 30, 2018, 04:58:13 AM
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I don't really understand how that is possible. If there's a casino managing the funds, no matter how reputable it is, it is still centralized.

It's possible to build some a "decentralized" casino, in the sense you're interacting with a "smart contract" instead of a centralized party directly. It's not super practical without a (centralized) entity that manages the smart-contract (and profits from it!) but they can offer some pretty cool benefits to players.

And that benefit is "trustlessness". In the sense that a normal bitcoin casino offers "provably fair" which means "it can cheat you, but you can detect if they do" while a trustless setup would mean that they can never even cheat you (if you trust the software, and there's no bugs, that is).

But "decentralized" casinos also have a huge disadvantage: They have an absolutely horrible UX, and they are typically on-chain which means slow and expensive.


So that raises the question: Can you offer trustless gambling, while not totally destroying the UX? And I think the answer to that is actually 'yes'. You can use a lightning-like system, where the balance is dependent on some auditable event that can be enforced by the blockchain. So you can keep gambling with the site (offchain!) and then only in a dispute (or when you're done) dumping the last state for the network to enforce.

The only problem I really see is that it's *insanely* complex to implement, compared to a normal casino -- and players probably don't care that much.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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November 30, 2018, 09:46:14 AM
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December 01, 2018, 08:17:14 AM
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In order to defeat that time and expense problem the decentralized casino could try to use something like nano or similar which can allow you to be both really fast and also incredibly cheap.

It would be a bit of a problem at first because people would have to change their bitcoins or anything they hold into nano and would create an exchange uptick and create a higher price than you initially wanted to do (good for nano hodlers, bad for gamblers) but it can still be done. Not like it is a good idea but it can still be done in theory.

I don't know what could be done with UX since I have no idea how they are done but if no one is really profiting from such a thing, it makes no sense for anyone to work on a project like this without any interest for them hence it would be hard to find neither a developer nor a designer and nothing in between.

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December 01, 2018, 02:10:55 PM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 

A decentralized casino is a business without an owner... i'm not sure but i think this is impossible because a business like that need a bankroll, and someone has to put that bankroll. And the one who invests on it would like to get profit better called House edge. So, better play on a dice with a nice reputation and a big bankroll than search a site without an owner.

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December 03, 2018, 07:10:27 AM
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Take look on cryptocurrencies ethereum and eos, which supports contracts.
There are some sites with lists of DAPPs, including gambling, like https://www.stateofthedapps.com/ or https://dappradar.com/.
Every bet - new transaction. Every transaction - money.
Also, you need to verify smart contract source code by yourself since most of contracts is not decentralized in fact.
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December 04, 2018, 02:42:00 AM
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He asked for a decentralized DICE, not "Casino". Of course it is possible: two guys make an equal deposit, the network mine a random result, and the correct guy is paid, everything automatically.
The only cost is the transaction cost
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December 04, 2018, 07:56:16 AM
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I think in the near future decentralised casinos will become more and more common.

Right now with casinos there isn't any strict KYC yet unlike with most BTC exchanges. However this can quickly change in the future and when it does we will all need decentralised casinos.

Provably fair and decentralisation are 2 different things pretty much. Provably fair simply is proof that the roll was done in a fair manner. Decentralization means there is no party who holds your funds and can freeze them. Basically what happened last year with certain exchanges like Poloniex which made KYC mandatory and froze almost everyone who wasn't verified.

Like the above poster already stated, the issue with decentralized platforms now is that they are fairly new and poor UX and buggy at times, however this should improve in the near future.
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December 31, 2018, 01:59:31 PM
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I was wondering if theirs a list of decentralized trusted dice web sites? 

I am wondering myself of there are truly dice projects that are truly decentralized. The closes I can think of is Tronbet and TronVegas both of which have their own utility token, Ante and Vcoin respectively. They are both Tron-based tokens and they are used  to distribute a portion of the platform's earnings. I am not sure the exact percentage  but it is pretty profitable. Dividends are distributed daily, instantly and automatically in to the Tron-wallet. They say in gambling the house always wins since we can be the house then we always win on this one. Tronbet's Ante tokens are already tradeable  while TronVegas' Vcoins are not (Except in risky TG P2P trading channels) but can be mined in their site by playing their games.
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January 03, 2019, 09:03:17 AM
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I am trying lately a new decentralized casino where I play Dice there. It is named Tronbet and you can currently bet only with TRX.
It is decentralized as there is a pool created will the lost bets and every 24h it is distributed to the native token holders.

I really enjoy it as I can play directly from my wallet by using tronlink extension, thus profits are directly credited to my balanced in just a few seconds after I win the Dice bet. However, I am not sure if the code is already released to the public in case you want to check.
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