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After the appearance of Bitcoin Cash SV and the hype around it, it became interesting how many children the father has? I searched the history and the network and drew a map of all forks Bitcoin. In brackets number of the block on which the branch and date took place. Counted 60 held forks. An interesting fact is that on some days and on certain blocks there were 4 forks at the same time. The peak of forks fell at the end of 2017, especially in December. In addition to the held, there were 8 more failed forks: Bitcoin Dollar, Bitcoin Metal, Bitcoin Prime, BitcoinHEX, United Bitcoin, Bitcoin All, Bitcoin Air, Bitcoin Origin. The other day, as there will be time, I will make a similar map for all altcoins. If, of course, you're interested. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 23, 2018, 02:18:05 PM |
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All I see in all these forks are a greedy mind. Instead of concentrating on how to strengthen the network of the bitcoin, Some developers keep finding a way to fork the bitcoin network, thereby creating unnecessary panic in the market. Whoever is interested in getting their own tokens should assemble teams of developers and get one strong altcoin into the market and let it taste the monkey water, instead of cheaply riding on the back on bitcoin.
Forks are part of the evolution of cryptocurrencies. There's nothing wrong with that. Scams everywhere enough. Thanks to an offshoot from Bytecoin, Monero appeared, for example. Bitcoin Cash is also a good currency. All the rest, though part of the fraudulent, but teach us not to make the same mistakes.
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if you want to count forks of bitcoin and call them "bitcoin children" then you have to go back to day 1 instead and try counting ALL of them not just the ones that happened recently ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) there was actually a website for it too although i think it has not been updated for a long time. it is called mapofcoins.com and according to that site there has been (up until the last update of the site) 667 altcoins forked from bitcoin.
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November 23, 2018, 02:46:29 PM |
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Hardforks are shit .. everytime it's just to make money and money and to improve the protocol so .. bitcoin is still the only bitcoin for me
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November 23, 2018, 02:48:35 PM |
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The big name of Bitcoin are well utilized by new crypto developers in hopes of gaining trust from investors, but they do not provide good innovation to solve problems in everyday life. the developers culminated in regret for not being able to rival the thinking of satoshi nakamoto as the inventor of Bitcoin.
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November 23, 2018, 03:33:16 PM |
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there was actually a website for it too although i think it has not been updated for a long time. it is called mapofcoins.com and according to that site there has been (up until the last update of the site) 667 altcoins forked from bitcoin.
are all of those 667 that continue on from a certain blockheight. or restart from 0(genesis) and are just using bitcoin code with minimal tweaks. i have personally never bothered thinking about the altcoins. but now i realise i have 60-667 multiples of my hoards. i might just have to pull out my private keys from 2012 from cold store. and start claiming and swapping some to btc(if any still are active)
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And only about 1 of these forks gets any real interest from investors, I've not even heard of a large majority of them. While reading through it did make me think how brilliant it would be if the real satoshi actually arrived, just to claim his BCH SV and dump them, effectively killing the coin and ridding us of CSW!
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November 23, 2018, 04:16:33 PM |
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And only about 1 of these forks gets any real interest from investors, I've not even heard of a large majority of them. While reading through it did make me think how brilliant it would be if the real satoshi actually arrived, just to claim his BCH SV and dump them, effectively killing the coin and ridding us of CSW!
funnier part. craig said he cant touch the satoshi stash as its locked to a trust.. (lie but funny) yet the sv coins are not. so craig if was satoshi could move the sv coins. ...... years later no movement. craig making sv will be his own downfall as he wont be able to debate reason to not move useless coins to prove identity. thus using is useless altcoin to try getting fame and pretend his useless altcoin has power to change anything. is a double hit to his reputation
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November 23, 2018, 05:18:27 PM |
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I must have ignored forks for a long time and only followed a few closely (bitcoin cash, BCHSV and BCHABC) which makes me think of digging my old private keys in hopes of taking some chump change from all these forks. But anyway though, with all those forks that happened, only the parent survived--or at least is the most active--the picky taste of people when it comes to the coin that they'd like to follow. Also, isn't that a clear statement already? With all these forks of bitcoin that appeared, it didn't appeal much to the public since they know what the real deal is. They can fork off all they like, but the money and eyes would still remain at bitcoin.
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November 24, 2018, 11:42:34 AM |
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I must have ignored forks for a long time and only followed a few closely (bitcoin cash, BCHSV and BCHABC) which makes me think of digging my old private keys in hopes of taking some chump change from all these forks. But anyway though, with all those forks that happened, only the parent survived--or at least is the most active--the picky taste of people when it comes to the coin that they'd like to follow. Also, isn't that a clear statement already? With all these forks of bitcoin that appeared, it didn't appeal much to the public since they know what the real deal is. They can fork off all they like, but the money and eyes would still remain at bitcoin.
Most of them were created at the peak to get liquidity for free and quickly sell everything on the stock exchanges. Scammers, in a word.
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November 24, 2018, 11:51:12 AM |
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After the appearance of Bitcoin Cash SV and the hype around it, it became interesting how many children the father has? I searched the history and the network and drew a map of all forks Bitcoin. In brackets number of the block on which the branch and date took place. Counted 60 held forks. An interesting fact is that on some days and on certain blocks there were 4 forks at the same time. The peak of forks fell at the end of 2017, especially in December. In addition to the held, there were 8 more failed forks: Bitcoin Dollar, Bitcoin Metal, Bitcoin Prime, BitcoinHEX, United Bitcoin, Bitcoin All, Bitcoin Air, Bitcoin Origin. The other day, as there will be time, I will make a similar map for all altcoins. If, of course, you're interested. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Every time there's a hard fork happened in this business, lot of investors increase because of this which means bitcoin fork is not that bad at all, instead it gives an opportunity to everyone to gain big here too, depending on the demand of the community in this field of business. Ever since I started every time there'r going to have a hard fork for sure Bitcoin will rise up or there's a big chance that bull run will be happen.
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November 24, 2018, 01:31:14 PM |
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i have personally never bothered thinking about the altcoins. but now i realise i have 60-667 multiples of my hoards. i might just have to pull out my private keys from 2012 from cold store. and start claiming and swapping some to btc(if any still are active) I wouldn't waste your time. Have a look at the list of coins on the site BrewMaster linked to - they are almost all long dead, or never really existed in the first place. Some of them are forks of forks of forks of forks. BCH will currently net you around 0.063 BTC per BTC you had at the time of fork (0.048 for ABC and 0.015 for SV), Bitcoin Gold 0.005 per BTC and Bitcoin Diamond 0.0025 per BTC (this fork was 10-to-1). Any forks beyond that and you are looking at at a handful of satoshi per BTC that you had stored. Hardly seems worth it. Not to mention the shady exchanges you will have to sign up to if you want to continue to trade trash coins like "Bitcoin Incognito".
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very interesting! and now let's see how many of these projects have become truly successful.
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November 24, 2018, 03:35:33 PM |
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This greatly contributed to the rise in Bitcoin prices in 2017.
One of the most successful as I think was Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin grew up before and after fork
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November 24, 2018, 05:00:38 PM |
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there was actually a website for it too although i think it has not been updated for a long time. it is called mapofcoins.com and according to that site there has been (up until the last update of the site) 667 altcoins forked from bitcoin.
are all of those 667 that continue on from a certain blockheight. or restart from 0(genesis) and are just using bitcoin code with minimal tweaks. i have personally never bothered thinking about the altcoins. but now i realise i have 60-667 multiples of my hoards. i might just have to pull out my private keys from 2012 from cold store. and start claiming and swapping some to btc(if any still are active) haha, don't get excited. majority of them are only copying code not the blocks. on some rare cases they did something weird and paid all those who had a balance like Bitcore. but the number of coins that forked similar to BCH is about 60 (according to OP) and about 4 or 5 of them are worth claiming (according to my experience, although at this point it is too late since they have all gotten dumped hard).
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November 24, 2018, 06:17:22 PM |
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Those forks have been destroying the concept that there are only 21M of Bitcoins by creating more fake money, Yeah.. I know maybe the users were supporting those forks to make a quick buck.. but where forks happen there's more wealth created out of nothing.
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November 24, 2018, 07:56:12 PM |
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Those forks have been destroying the concept that there are only 21M of Bitcoins by creating more fake money, Yeah.. I know maybe the users were supporting those forks to make a quick buck.. but where forks happen there's more wealth created out of nothing.
The wealth is not created from nothing, it's created from people demanding the coin and that creates the value which leads to creating wealth. If no one demanded the coins (It's happened with some of them) then there wouldn't be any wealth created from the shit coins.
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November 24, 2018, 08:27:01 PM |
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After the appearance of Bitcoin Cash SV and the hype around it, it became interesting how many children the father has? I searched the history and the network and drew a map of all forks Bitcoin. In brackets number of the block on which the branch and date took place. Counted 60 held forks. The other day, as there will be time, I will make a similar map for all altcoins. If, of course, you're interested. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You've done a great job, it's interesting to look at this systematic list of the forks. I only don't understand why the last one is repeated twice and kind of ruins the chronology. I guess it was some mistake. I heard only about 5 forks or so and I would've never guessed there were so many of them. Why would anyone create so many of them? I bet in most of cases it was completely unjustified and done only with hope to get some profit. I don't really care about most of these forks, though, because they don't affect the main market. Bitcoin cash is different, because when it was created there was a risk of people dumping bitcoin for good. Now that ABC and SV are around the corner, the market is bleeding... I think it's nice if you make more similar research and share it with bitcointalk community!
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I just noticed it took few forks before they do bitcoin 2. you know just for the sequel norms for movies and other things with series ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Many forks but only few have been promoted well in the community. Nonetheless there's still no takeover yet with the King. The saying that in this era it's more important to be the first than to be the best.
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November 24, 2018, 08:52:14 PM |
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And only about 1 of these forks gets any real interest from investors, I've not even heard of a large majority of them. While reading through it did make me think how brilliant it would be if the real satoshi actually arrived, just to claim his BCH SV and dump them, effectively killing the coin and ridding us of CSW!
funnier part. craig said he cant touch the satoshi stash as its locked to a trust.. (lie but funny) yet the sv coins are not. so craig if was satoshi could move the sv coins. ...... years later no movement. craig making sv will be his own downfall as he wont be able to debate reason to not move useless coins to prove identity. thus using is useless altcoin to try getting fame and pretend his useless altcoin has power to change anything. is a double hit to his reputation I don't know why anyone would even consider that he is Satoshi. He may be knowledgeable around bitcoin and crypto but when it comes to lying he's terrible. There are so many things he could've done to prove he was really Satoshi, if he actually was. Even if he had somehow lost access to the wallets.
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