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November 28, 2018, 03:32:44 AM
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Hello community,

I happened to read something about "Golden Visa"
If you make certain amount of investment in business/property in some countries, you will be offered a citizenship

My question is, I saw there are some sellers selling their property for BTC on the forum
If I buy the property and pay with BTC, should I be included in the program? (let's assume the country has such program)

What do you guys think, and what will be the problems?
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November 28, 2018, 05:06:28 AM
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Hello community,

I happened to read something about "Golden Visa"
If you make certain amount of investment in business/property in some countries, you will be offered a citizenship

My question is, I saw there are some sellers selling their property for BTC on the forum
If I buy the property and pay with BTC, should I be included in the program? (let's assume the country has such program)

What do you guys think, and what will be the problems?


you can buy all the properties that you want but that is not going to give you a green card.

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February 18, 2019, 08:38:53 PM
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There are a lot of such programs. For example if you invest 250 000 euros into Greek property for sale or other investments you can get Golden visa in Greece https://tranio.com/greece/residence/ within 3-6 months only. In 7 years you will have a passport. I am not sure that they accept BTC but worth a check. Maybe this year they changed rules on modes of payment.
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February 18, 2019, 08:58:28 PM
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Hello community,

I happened to read something about "Golden Visa"
If you make certain amount of investment in business/property in some countries, you will be offered a citizenship

My question is, I saw there are some sellers selling their property for BTC on the forum
If I buy the property and pay with BTC, should I be included in the program? (let's assume the country has such program)

What do you guys think, and what will be the problems?

It depends on the legal status of bitcoin in that country where you are planning to migrate. If bitcoin is a legal form of currency in that country, you should not run into any issue. But if bitcoin is considered illegal, you may face a lot of problem.

You should look for migrating to Antigua because as far as I know, it accepts bitcoin as a currency and you can purchase their citizenship using bitcoin. Hope this helps!

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February 18, 2019, 10:06:37 PM
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I don't think it's that easy to get a golden visa to a country especial European countries just because one just made a transaction in BTC or other cryptos. Cryptos haven't yet been widely accepted. Unless if the country is really in a bad state, they wouldn't care about issuing visas. Maybe in future when probably countries or governments own their own cryptocurrencies.

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February 19, 2019, 01:03:27 PM
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if you want to migrate somewhere with a Investor Class Visa, ad want to buy your property with BTC - you should check first if BTC is legal there or not. if BTC is legal there, you can apply for that opportunity.
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February 19, 2019, 02:15:02 PM
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blackrabbit1, it is true that some countries offer citizenship, residency or immigration by investment, but I do not see any country except Antigua and Barbuda, and Vanuatu to accept BTC as a means of payment for that service.

However this should not be a problem, you just need to sell BTC and then invest fiat. I think these two countries will also carry out certain checks before allowing payment in cryptocurrency, otherwise many would take advantage of paying in crypto - but you will always have to prove the origin of money, regardless of which way to pay.

I also advise you to check all well, and not to trust some agents who offer visa services / you will lost money and visa.

All you need to know is presented on this site : Golden Visas

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February 19, 2019, 03:13:14 PM
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blackrabbit1, it is true that some countries offer citizenship, residency or immigration by investment, but I do not see any country except Antigua and Barbuda, and Vanuatu to accept BTC as a means of payment for that service.

However this should not be a problem, you just need to sell BTC and then invest fiat. I think these two countries will also carry out certain checks before allowing payment in cryptocurrency, otherwise many would take advantage of paying in crypto - but you will always have to prove the origin of money, regardless of which way to pay.

I also advise you to check all well, and not to trust some agents who offer visa services / you will lost money and visa.

All you need to know is presented on this site : Golden Visas
The link provided gives a clear data about the countries that provide with citizenship and the investment amount required to get the citizenship. Very few countries have started accepting bitcoin while majority are into fiat payment as there is more legal formalities that needs to be done for the same.

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February 19, 2019, 05:03:47 PM
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Hello community,

I happened to read something about "Golden Visa"
If you make certain amount of investment in business/property in some countries, you will be offered a citizenship

My question is, I saw there are some sellers selling their property for BTC on the forum
If I buy the property and pay with BTC, should I be included in the program? (let's assume the country has such program)

What do you guys think, and what will be the problems?
Read about Greece, Spain, Malta etc.

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February 19, 2019, 05:12:51 PM
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I am sorry I just can't understand! For those who say that the country must accept Bitcoin as a way of investing, can't we just make the deal with Bitcoin as a side deal and on paper, it can be the local currency of the country we want to invest in? For example, if I buy land in the USA from someone who is willing to accept Bitcoin we can just agree on the price of Bitcoin in term of $ and I pay him Bitcoin and on papers, we put $$ that is an easy workaround if you really want to pay with Bitcoin.
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February 19, 2019, 06:09:58 PM
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I am sorry I just can't understand! For those who say that the country must accept Bitcoin as a way of investing, can't we just make the deal with Bitcoin as a side deal and on paper, it can be the local currency of the country we want to invest in? For example, if I buy land in the USA from someone who is willing to accept Bitcoin we can just agree on the price of Bitcoin in term of $ and I pay him Bitcoin and on papers, we put $$ that is an easy workaround if you really want to pay with Bitcoin.

Though I an not actually aware how exactly it works but I do not think you can take liberty of doing payment in bitcoin and putting native currency in documents. In reality, it might be considered as document forging,giving wrong information to the government and might be considered as criminal offence.

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February 19, 2019, 06:41:16 PM
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I didn't know such programs exist but by logic, It's based on the value of the property, not the means of payment to pay it  Wink
Imagine different rules for different payments means used to "invest" in your property. Saying no to someone because he paid the property with  400 tons of peanuts Cheesy. And you don't report your payment methods to the taxes office Wink

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February 19, 2019, 07:10:45 PM
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Why make the mode of payment your problem when you can easily convert your BTC to Fiat in that county? You see your main problem here is really not a problem, if you are having second thoughts on how your BTC payments for real estate properts will reflect on your records as investment then go on the safer and proven method which is paying in their local fiat currency. If you are looking to buy lands from people who accept BTC payments then I'm sure you can negotiate them on accepting their own fiat currency.

And also I don't think you need to worry about what you need to pay at all because Golden Visas are only handed out to certain individuals who will reach the minimum amount of investment capital to their country and it doesn't go cheap especially to developed countries like England.
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If you want citizenship, why not just try to marry someone in the country? I think you can arrange things for this.

Is the easiest that you can do, I see you don't have problems with money, you can buy a property after that. BTC to fiat is the first thing to do if you wanna buy a property, don't try to force your way to buy using BTC. You know its not possible as of now. You can file a divorce later.
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February 20, 2019, 02:48:43 AM
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As I read it you make an investment for Greece that is worth $250000 I guess if you bought the properties with gold (about 8kg) then what's the difference. Also how are they going to know if you traded that amount in cash or in bitcoin.
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If you want citizenship, why not just try to marry someone in the country? I think you can arrange things for this.

Is the easiest that you can do, I see you don't have problems with money, you can buy a property after that. BTC to fiat is the first thing to do if you wanna buy a property, don't try to force your way to buy using BTC. You know its not possible as of now. You can file a divorce later.

It's funny but it's true, if just the citizenship is his issue then why complicate things if marrying someone is the best way. Though this isn't easy as it looks but he should try this first before that golden visa thing.

Otherwise you won't be sure of those people that selling their property here, better to see it for yourself or contact an real estate agent in that specific location.

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February 21, 2019, 05:01:20 AM
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Bitcoin is not yet legalized as a payment method in any country right now, as far as I know so this would not help you. I don't understand why you want to buy it necessarily with bitcoin when you can exchange it in cash and buy it. It would be much easier and you are assured of getting a Golden Visa, of course this depending of every countries rules.
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February 21, 2019, 05:21:13 AM
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Hello community,

I happened to read something about "Golden Visa"
If you make certain amount of investment in business/property in some countries, you will be offered a citizenship

My question is, I saw there are some sellers selling their property for BTC on the forum
If I buy the property and pay with BTC, should I be included in the program? (let's assume the country has such program)

What do you guys think, and what will be the problems?

It depends on the legal status of bitcoin in that country where you are planning to migrate. If bitcoin is a legal form of currency in that country, you should not run into any issue. But if bitcoin is considered illegal, you may face a lot of problem.

You should look for migrating to Antigua because as far as I know, it accepts bitcoin as a currency and you can purchase their citizenship using bitcoin. Hope this helps!

Obviously right. It depends on a country where the status of Bitcoin is either legal or illegal. If Bitcoin is legal in that territory, you may get visa and green card but otherwise not. Some European countries are favorable for Bitcoin. So you can try there.
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If you want citizenship, why not just try to marry someone in the country? I think you can arrange things for this.

Is the easiest that you can do, I see you don't have problems with money, you can buy a property after that. BTC to fiat is the first thing to do if you wanna buy a property, don't try to force your way to buy using BTC. You know its not possible as of now. You can file a divorce later.

It's funny but it's true, if just the citizenship is his issue then why complicate things if marrying someone is the best way. Though this isn't easy as it looks but he should try this first before that golden visa thing.

Otherwise you won't be sure of those people that selling their property here, better to see it for yourself or contact an real estate agent in that specific location.

Is this really so unregulated that it's possible to do? It seems more extreme than buying property imo as its generally illegal and maybe op wanted the properties or they could just sell them on when they get there...
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February 21, 2019, 10:00:53 AM
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I don’t think bitcoin is accepted for this kind of opportunity. Thought it’s a very nice one and I have seen people make use of it and it worked for them but I have not seen anyone does so with bitcoin. And also it depend on the status of bitcoin and cryptocurrency in the country of your choice. But majorly for now, it’s mostky done with fiat in respect of the currency of the country of your choice.
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