Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India

[JSRAW]

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/want-declare-jesus-them-wrote-us-missionary-killed-andaman-tribe-91993?amp


Feel sad for this young man (John Chau) and his family. But his religious beliefs and stupid act got him killed when he thought that he should preach the gospel and convert The Sentinelese people to Christianity so they can be saved.

He repeatedly tried to enter the island which is banned by Indian Gov for any tourists and local people. He forgets that its one of the oldest surviving and isolated tribe on Earth and they don't need saving from anyone. https://www.survivalinternational.org/campaigns/mostisolated

According to his journal and emails, it's very clear that he was on a suicide mission due to his religious beliefs.

The sad part is his body still on the island, chances are it can't be recovered and some Christian group naming him as a ‘Martyr’
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/11/christians-claim-dead-missionary-was-a-martyr-call-for-punishment-of-tribes-people/

[bluefirecorp_]

Retard breaks the law and is killed even after warnings from government.

Who gives a shit about this brainless fuck?

I think he should win the Darwin award this year.

[Spendulus]

Retard breaks the law and is killed even after warnings from government.

Who gives a shit about this brainless fuck?

I think he should win the Darwin award this year.

That's an interesting story.

Christians claim John Allen Chau is a martyr after he was killed in self-defense by isolated tribespeople on a remote island hundreds of miles off the coast of India.

Chau was shot dead with bows and arrows after he went to the remote North Sentinel Island in hopes of converting the isolated Sentinelese people to the Christian faith.

Chau’s attempt to convert the tribespeople was an illegal and immoral act that posed a grave risk to the health and welfare of the Sentinelese people.

The article is very biased and even a bit weird in it's orientation, and obviously anti-Christian, alleging he was engaging in "illegal and immoral acts."

It actually all revolves around whether that island makes their own laws and whether the people there have the right to murder outsiders coming in. It's that simple.

[bluefirecorp_]

Unaware retard being retarded.

And the retard chimes in on a subject he has no clue about.

I've actually known of this island for a while. It's not the first time an outsider was killed and certainly won't be the last time.

India specifically crafted a law to prevent individuals from visiting this island. They have their own sovereignty. Anyone visiting the island IS BREAKING INDIAN LAW.

[Piggy]

Beside everything, they have been isolated for so long that going in there now, brings very high risk to wipe the island clean with some relatively common deases like a seasonal flu.

[Spendulus]

Beside everything, they have been isolated for so long that going in there now, brings very high risk to wipe the island clean with some relatively common deases like a seasonal flu.

Wipe the island clean?

Sounds interesting. I'm having some trouble getting sympathetic to these savages. Bows and arrows and solving problems by killing people.

Maybe a nice resort could go there?

[enhu]

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/want-declare-jesus-them-wrote-us-missionary-killed-andaman-tribe-91993?amp


Feel sad for this young man (John Chau) and his family. But his religious beliefs and stupid act got him killed when he thought that he should preach the gospel and convert The Sentinelese people to Christianity so they can be saved.

He repeatedly tried to enter the island which is banned by Indian Gov for any tourists and local people. He forgets that its one of the oldest surviving and isolated tribe on Earth and they don't need saving from anyone. https://www.survivalinternational.org/campaigns/mostisolated

According to his journal and emails, it's very clear that he was on a suicide mission due to his religious beliefs.

The sad part is his body still on the island, chances are it can't be recovered and some Christian group naming him as a ‘Martyr’
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/11/christians-claim-dead-missionary-was-a-martyr-call-for-punishment-of-tribes-people/

Maybe he thought he'd be saint after this death of him just as some people who were proclaimed saints by the catholics after the brutal death when they tried to convert savages.

I can see Sentinelese aren't the typical look of an Indian Beige though, more like an African indeed. If they are cannibals then that priest probably end up in their  tummies.

[bluefirecorp_]

Beside everything, they have been isolated for so long that going in there now, brings very high risk to wipe the island clean with some relatively common deases like a seasonal flu.

Wipe the island clean?

Sounds interesting. I'm having some trouble getting sympathetic to these savages. Bows and arrows and solving problems by killing people.

Maybe a nice resort could go there?

Calling for a genocide now? Seems about right for you. Rofl.

Perhaps we should genocide your savage people.

[suchmoon]

It actually all revolves around whether that island makes their own laws and whether the people there have the right to murder outsiders coming in. It's that simple.

They don't have to make their own laws, India's law already prohibits outsiders from coming in. And the natives defended their island by killing an intruder. Not very nice given that the intruder was an unarmed dumbass trying to "convert" them but on the other hand he was carrying a potential lethal threat for them.

[Spendulus]

It actually all revolves around whether that island makes their own laws and whether the people there have the right to murder outsiders coming in. It's that simple.

They don't have to make their own laws, India's law already prohibits outsiders from coming in. And the natives defended their island by killing an intruder. Not very nice given that the intruder was an unarmed dumbass trying to "convert" them but on the other hand he was carrying a potential lethal threat for them.

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

[suchmoon]

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

[bluefirecorp_]

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

It's the government's fault I died of gunshot wounds while diving in the spent nuclear rod tank. Dontcha know?

https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

[Bumenuzo]

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/want-declare-jesus-them-wrote-us-missionary-killed-andaman-tribe-91993?amp


Feel sad for this young man (John Chau) and his family. But his religious beliefs and stupid act got him killed when he thought that he should preach the gospel and convert The Sentinelese people to Christianity so they can be saved.

He repeatedly tried to enter the island which is banned by Indian Gov for any tourists and local people. He forgets that its one of the oldest surviving and isolated tribe on Earth and they don't need saving from anyone. https://www.survivalinternational.org/campaigns/mostisolated

According to his journal and emails, it's very clear that he was on a suicide mission due to his religious beliefs.

The sad part is his body still on the island, chances are it can't be recovered and some Christian group naming him as a ‘Martyr’
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/11/christians-claim-dead-missionary-was-a-martyr-call-for-punishment-of-tribes-people/

Darwinism at its best.He was fully aware of the consequence and yet he continue with his suicide mission.

[Spendulus]

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

Interesting viewpoint.

No, "the law DOES NOT protect the island."

People do.

If they are ignorant of how to deal with contagious diseases, and unusually sensitive to them, they're fucked.

[bluefirecorp_]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese#Deaths_of_two_fishermen_(2006)


I still don't get why this is news. It's not the first time this tribe has killed off people coming close to them. India has declared them a protected area by law. There were no charges filed with these two deaths. I think it's just distraction from the Trump shit.

[suchmoon]

Interesting viewpoint.

No, "the law DOES NOT protect the island."

People do.

If they are ignorant of how to deal with contagious diseases, and unusually sensitive to them, they're fucked.

Would you apply the same logic if someone with ebola showed up at your doorstep and insisted on a french kiss?

Their ignorance or sensitivity is irrelevant. The government is protecting their way of life. They don't seem to be imposing that way of life on anyone outside of their island. Seems like a reasonable setup and outsiders should not go there.

[ATMD]

I agree that it is the right of the locals to live the way they want to on their very own island, it is better to leave them in peace.

[exemplaar]

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/want-declare-jesus-them-wrote-us-missionary-killed-andaman-tribe-91993?amp


Feel sad for this young man (John Chau) and his family. But his religious beliefs and stupid act got him killed when he thought that he should preach the gospel and convert The Sentinelese people to Christianity so they can be saved.

He repeatedly tried to enter the island which is banned by Indian Gov for any tourists and local people. He forgets that its one of the oldest surviving and isolated tribe on Earth and they don't need saving from anyone. https://www.survivalinternational.org/campaigns/mostisolated

According to his journal and emails, it's very clear that he was on a suicide mission due to his religious beliefs.

The sad part is his body still on the island, chances are it can't be recovered and some Christian group naming him as a ‘Martyr’
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/11/christians-claim-dead-missionary-was-a-martyr-call-for-punishment-of-tribes-people/

Great example of how unprepared christians can not operate in India.

Bonus video - end time battle in India: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPHK6VLEHA&t=1066s

Let them hear who has ears to hear!

[DireWolfM14]

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

Interesting viewpoint.

No, "the law DOES NOT protect the island."

People do.

If they are ignorant of how to deal with contagious diseases, and unusually sensitive to them, they're fucked.

That's kind of silly to argue whether the law or people are charged with protection of the island.  Laws wouldn't exist without people, so yeah, whatever, semantics...  You could argue whether the tribe should be protected or not, and it's your right to have an opinion.  

Having said that; the dude obviously knew the dangers he faced.  He wrote a letter to his family expressing his knowledge of the risks.  He got shot at, escaped, and then returned.  His fate was in his hands and made his choice.  

I'm sure his family wants to give him a proper burial, and would like the Indian government to retrieve his body, but I'm inclined to agree with the Indian government on this one.  He broke the law going to the island, not once, but twice.  He new the risks, not only to his own well being, but ignored the risks he posed to the islanders' health.  Attempting to retrieve the body would only compound the dangers to the islanders.

[Spendulus]

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

Interesting viewpoint.

No, "the law DOES NOT protect the island."

People do.

If they are ignorant of how to deal with contagious diseases, and unusually sensitive to them, they're fucked.

That's kind of silly to argue whether the law or people are charged with protection of the island.  Laws wouldn't exist without people, so yeah, whatever, semantics...  ....

Sematics? Not quite.

The same people that would argue "the law protects the Island" would argue that "the immigration law can't stand in the way of open borders", it's "okay if Hillary broke all kinds of laws", it's "Not okay if Trump jaywalks," on and on.

It's not semantics to change the rules with every situation.

Further, suppose a plane, or a boat, had to make an emergency landing there. Suppose the islanders murder them.

Someone somewhere might just decide it was payback time.

I'm not sympathetic with the "missionary," but to use his own words, "an eye for an eye...."