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December 01, 2018, 08:17:37 PM
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It seems to have stagnated recently, and yet people are still clamouring for merits, and also apologising for the quality of their English.

Fit to Talk Englsh was created to help Bitcoin Talk members to improve their English, and to enable non-English speakers to bring their political comments into the forum. There is quite a bit of dramatic news from around the world, and much of it involves crypto currencies - what can I do to help broadcast this news to the English speakers in this forum?

I closed registration a couple of weeks ago, and required a pm for registration. I did this because of the workload in checking the Bitcoin Talk membership requirement, and the rejection of the pharma and gambling spammers. I can reopen registration tomorrow for a  week or so if there is sufficient interest.

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December 01, 2018, 09:18:32 PM
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Sorry to hear your project isn't going well. Iirc there were some early successes though, a couple posts you did submit to P&S maybe?

I guess it's a small scale example of the barriers to entry theymos refers to from time to time. Though I still think it's lazy to not take the extra step. I like the idea of your project, and if you're interested would be willing to review some of the member accounts that do apply. I'd have to check over what your criteria is and I could just review a list and send you a list of who check all the boxes.



Feel free to Pm me if you fall behind and need an extra set of eyes.

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December 01, 2018, 09:41:57 PM
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It's not really a good one to hear,as you tried to use that project to give back to the forum what it has indeed given to you,this lack of interest could be down to laziness I think,as some members wouldn't wanna take the due step to improve themselves on the forum..
They prefer to try posting in poorly fit or articulated English and hope they get merited one way or the other..
I'll still advice you leave it open,as a handful of genuine members is far better than a whole lot of spammers
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December 01, 2018, 09:51:27 PM
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I would like to read up on the project but I'm having trouble finding the post could someone give me a link to it .
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December 01, 2018, 10:09:10 PM
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Here is the link - http://fittotalk.com/english-talk/index.php

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December 02, 2018, 05:25:16 AM
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The project does not look in too bad a shape.
The issue I think may be publicity, not enough of it.

I doubt a lot of newbies know about the project, as the target audience is those with less command of the English language, wouldn't it help to have a welcome message translated and posted in their local languages? (I don't know is this has already been done), since they rarely come out to the strictly English boards
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December 02, 2018, 08:14:23 AM
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 Well the idea to aid members improve there English is quite a welcoming one since English is the most used language here on the forum.

This poor English barrier had made members scared to contribute there part to the forum they don't want to embarrass themselves with there post.

Well I am just getting to know about the fit to talk project I have gone through the and I am already poised to register and also get individuals that are in need of such aid to get in.

I would appeal to the organiser to not close down this very important assistance. Probably it's in starting stage and hurdles are most likely expected but closing it is sure not the best step.
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Thanks for the encouraging replies. The site doesn't cost much to run. It's hosted on a multidomain plan, so the only real cost is the domain name registration, and that is under $9 per year for me, so a couple of affiliate links would more than cover that, and add a contribution to the cost of the hosting plan.

The major problem is the time it can take to maintain the site, and that is why I disabled registration, and made it a manual operation. I've opened this subject to admin approval and email confirmation. I don't use the email addresses for anything other than registration confirmation. It helps to cut down on the Pharma spammers. You MUST use your Bitcoin Talk name to register, and any variation will cause your application to be rejected. This requirement is to help the mods in this forum, and to avoid misunderstandings that could lead to accusations of plagiarism.

The Spanish section is probably the most active of the foreign language resources, and you can even post in Spanish to help you to get started. It is probably my influence tht has created this section, as I am interested in various political topics such as Catalonia and the Venezuelan economy.

We can help you to create good posts, and there are even projects to help you to gain merits, but we prefer not to discuss the merit system itself.  I hope that the main emphasis in content to be ported into the BT forum will be current political comments, and discussions about Bitcoin and other crypro currencies. There are a variety of social sections to help you to improve your English discussions as well, These include topics such as dog management, health care, transport and ethnic dancing.

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December 02, 2018, 09:03:42 AM
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I honestly hope this project get the needed support and encouragement it sure deserve. The idea is just epic am probably not the best to help financially well I guess you don't need my finances(there is a cash attached to your name) but I would love to be part of this project.

I have stated severally that I am a community leader in my region and I suggest this forum to members but they get cold feet because of poor quality English project like this would really work in my favour and help me impact into lives .

And how would the the registration be from now since you have close it

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December 02, 2018, 09:29:38 AM
Last edit: December 02, 2018, 09:41:40 AM by Jet Cash
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It should be open now, so just sign up with your BT name. It should give me an alert, and I can approve you, and then you are good to go.

There is a closed board for some Spanish speakers, and you will need to ask me if you want to join that one. Other than that - the forum is your oyster. Smiley

I'm not sure if you guys are aware of a support site for Fit to Talk. I started Mobile img to allow members to post pictures taken using their mobile phones. The idea is that various political events could be captured, and the pictures used to supoort comments. Membership is restricted, as I want it to be a serious political service, and not just a general imahe hosting site.

There is also a voice site planned, but until I sort out my Audacity installation that Windowsmessed up, that will have to wait.

The shop and the English Gold tokens are just a bit of fun, as I can't think of a practical use for them at the moment.

The Jet Cash coffee lounge in the Ivory Tower has had some good relaxing chat recently, just what you would expect.
We need some girls to brighten the conversation though.
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December 02, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
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Glad you reopened registration, i can remember I have to PM you to register. I believe lack of advertisement is the cause of the project been stagnated of recent. Maybe a signature campaign with either volunteers or paid campaign to create awareness for the project will be the best option. Many forum users aren't aware of the project yet. Also there isn't enough testimonies online to convince those having doubt about the project. Maybe if one or the two suggestions above can be looked into, it will go along way in reviving the project.

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December 02, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
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Maybe a signature campaign with either volunteers or paid campaign to create awareness for the project will be the best option. Many forum users aren't aware of the project yet.
Exactly what I was going to say.

@Jet Cash since you are not wearing a signature you could have one made for you to advertise your site. CryptopreneurBrainboss is right, I dont think many members know about it and even if they do they might not know what the purpose of Fit to Talk is!

You could also make a poll asking BT users a simple question:
Have you heard about the Fit to Talk project and do you know the purpose of the site?


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December 02, 2018, 01:21:47 PM
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I want to use my signature for the Crypto Coin Club, and some political projects.

I'm revieweing my projects at the moment, and here are some comments on them.

The Fit to Talk English project
It looks as if there is some interest in this still, so I'll keep this running, and maybe add some extra features to make it a bit more attractive.

Images from your mobile phones
I haven't promoted this, but the plan was to use this to support political threads.  I need to find a way to add selected images to Fit to Talk.

Ask a Legendary
I've just spent time deleting 63 spammer applications, and the associated emails and posts. I've closed this site, and may re-evaluate it in the future.

The Crypto Coin Tree
The investment club project is inchoate, and therefore doesn't have much to offer at the moment. I hope to build this into a major project.

Assured coin
Assured coin will be the security token for the Crypto Coin Tree project. No work has been dne on this so far.

The Jet Cash merit source blog
I've rather neglected this recently. It's my blog as a merit source, and there are a number of  articles related to Bitcon Talk and crypto

Snow Eagle
I had planned to make this a site listing new Bitcoin Talk members of note, and to start a new ignore list. Unfortunately, I haven't had the chance to set this up, and all that is there at the moment is an avatar list.

I have got a number of other projects, and these are mainly social or political. For example Jazz pics is a gallery of photographs that I have taken for various reasons.

The Jet Cash coffee lounge in the Ivory Tower has had some good relaxing chat recently, just what you would expect.
We need some girls to brighten the conversation though.
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December 03, 2018, 07:09:50 AM
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It seems to have stagnated recently, and yet people are still clamouring for merits, and also apologising for the quality of their English.

Fit to Talk Englsh was created to help Bitcoin Talk members to improve their English, and to enable non-English speakers to bring their political comments into the forum. There is quite a bit of dramatic news from around the world, and much of it involves crypto currencies - what can I do to help broadcast this news to the English speakers in this forum?

I closed registration a couple of weeks ago, and required a pm for registration. I did this because of the workload in checking the Bitcoin Talk membership requirement, and the rejection of the pharma and gambling spammers. I can reopen registration tomorrow for a  week or so if there is sufficient interest.

if really not expert in English then can try some Chinese forum Wink
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I tried applying before into this project but I was not able to register am really interested in brushing up my English and also to be able to present my article so that it can be readable well I will give the registration another trial I hope I get access

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December 03, 2018, 07:59:21 AM
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I tried applying before into this project but I was not able to register am really interested in brushing up my English and also to be able to present my article so that it can be readable well I will give the registration another trial I hope I get access

Did you try to join as Peacemaker1994? I've just rejected an applicant with a nick starting with "ofis". There is no member here with that name.

It really is important to read rules and guidelines if you want to earn on the Internet. So many peple don't and they put effort and money into projects, only to find that their accounts are deleted because they have broken the rules. Irt is quite time consuming for me to have to check memberships, and send emails to applicants that aren't members of Bitcoin Talk. It's really quite simple to apply.

- Register your Bitcoin Talk name through the fit to talk link. You must use your BT nick for two reasons. The project is to help Bitcoin Talk members, and not the whole of the Internet. You need to ensure that your post on FtT are not flagged as plagiarism if you copy them into this forum.
- You need to use a valid email address, even if it's just a free throw away one. This helps to cut down on spammers applications ( but not a lot). I don't use the addresses for anything other than registration confirmation, and you can keep it hidden in your profile.

We'd love to have you as a member, please can you apply as Peacemaker1994  - you can even use an avatar if you want to, and set your country code, so that you can have a small flag in your profile.

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Since opening the forum, I've started getting the spammers attempting to join the project. I'm now just rejecting them without emailing them an explanation. I'm thinking of starting an application thread on one of the boards here, and I'll add new members manually. I really want genuine Bitcoin Talk members ( newbies or otherwise) to join, but I don't want the pharma spammers in there
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We need some girls to brighten the conversation though.
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December 03, 2018, 12:30:18 PM
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Your Fit to Talk project has helped at least four or five forum members from my local board to move on to the global English sections at some point, and that is certainly appreciated. I encourage people from my local board to post in the English sections too, finding them way more vivid than my local board. Some of their content is also interesting to see from a global perspective, where country specific issues may not be known to many.

While I do find that some people on my local board have enough language command to be able to post in English, I’d say that Fit to Talk has deemed a great help in boosting self-confidence to step out of the language confort zone. Obviously the time you put into it can only be measured by you, but from a local board’s perspective, I’d say keep it rolling whilst you still have stamina for it.

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I've made some changes to registration. I'm fed up with checking for membership here, and finding that applicants haven't read the rules, or are just spamming chancers. So this is how it works now.

You have to be a junior member to make a post, and to save messing up existing members, the requirement for junior ranking is one post. This means anyone who has already made a post will be unaffected. If you have joined, but have not yet made a post, then you may need to send a pm to Jet Aid - here is the link.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2386998

New applications will still need to verify their account by email confirmation, but they will no longer require admin approval. They will be given the rank of newbie, and they will not be able to post with this rank. Once you have confirmed your registration, you will need to use the above link to request membership of the verified group, and this will allow you to start posting. Please note that you will have to be a member of Bitcoin Talk, and you will need to use the same user name for both forums.

I hope that this change will not inconvenience anybody, and that it will make it easier for new members to join.

It is my intention to add some new features to help members - the accorders voice posting is one of these, and the integration of the mobile image gallery is another. You will be able to use the mobile image site to host permitted images in the Bitcoin Talk forum as well. I'll probably put some hotlinking protection on the site, but Fit to Talk and Bitcoin Talk will be permitted.

I'm considering some monetising options to cover the costs of these extas, and the Brave privacy browser is one of them.

The Jet Cash coffee lounge in the Ivory Tower has had some good relaxing chat recently, just what you would expect.
We need some girls to brighten the conversation though.
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I don't think you should close it I'm thinking in the other way, you should open it and let anyone register because is hard to get a new audience for a project and with your registration process you will make people think it twice before opening an account there.

I would like to be part of that project because I know my English isn't the best one, but for personal reasons I can't  Undecided

The focus on the project is awesome, I mean, make form the people who already are on this forum a people with better lexicon and proper English talkers, that would be awesome. But what if we focus on a project to bring more people to the forum? that would be better.

In the end, each one spends his time in the project he wants and you already make a great work for this community, so don't give up and keep it up that great work.  Wink

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Dude, I'm not that active on your board but hey, you've done a great job so far, why would you quit now?
I wish I had the time to joint the fun there, and here too > http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/cockney_translator/
But all those projects this year are killing me.. slowly...

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