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December 02, 2018, 03:52:28 PM
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UPDATE (February 4, 2019)  :  ABBC Foundation has shut down the airdrop website which they have used to steal people's idendity data via so called KYC process.
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UPDATE (December 21, 2018) : All of a sudden all past tweets of ABBC foundation got deleted. But they forgot to delete the chat history in telegram LOL. Here's the chat export just in case if they delete telegram chat history too: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aOo6bZutTbG2PmEkLh3IbojDNsnfHw-w/view?usp=sharing

First of all, lets take a look at the name of the project. "Alibaba". Really? There are dozens of languages and thousands of words in the world. But Alibabacoin Foundation decided to use a commercial name which is already taken by the Chinese giant Alibaba Group and this lead to being sued by Alibaba Group. Even a monkey could think of this.

Second, irresponsibility of the dev team;
 -Their website is still not updated. Its almost 2019 and their roadmap shows that they are still on september 2018 milestone which says something about facial recognition on blockchain. Letting your mobile app use Face-id on iPhone or whatever its called on Android, to unlock the app, has nothing to do with the blockchain.
 -Block explorer issue. How hard it can be to buy a domain for block explorer? Why using an ip address for block explorer web site tho? How people will find your block explorer? The link is not even provided in their official website. I had to find it on one of the exchanges that listed ABBC. Here's the link : http://45.55.242.48:3001/

Third. Two different wallet apps for both mobile platforms. On iOS platform, the creator of the app is CEO of ABBC foundation. But the app looks really scam tho and ABBC foundation says dont use that app. I have no idea why Apple approved this app. I tried both. When you "sign-up" on iOS wallet, you get a confirmation mail from a domain that looks TOTALLY SCAM. support@abbcfoundation.org Official website ends with .com not .org When you signup for the android wallet which is recommended by ABBC foundation, you get a confirmation mail from ANOTHER domain that looks TOTALLY SCAM which i couldnt find due to i used gmail for it and it got deleted automatically because i received it in spam folder. Wallets are supposed to be offline. Not required to signup with an email. Wallets should have private keys or back phrases or whatever. Using an email and password to login to your wallet is not what blockchain is made for.

Fourth. Wallet has crypto transfer limits.
 -Lets say you are using wallet on android. You deposited 1 BTC to that wallet. (Its a multi crypto wallet which supports many cryptos) And then lets say you are gonna send 0.5 BTC to someone. You cant do it. Congrats. This useless apps lets you send only %11 of your total balance in 1 day. So first day you only will be able to send 0.11 BTC. Next day 0,0979 BTC. Next day 0,087131 BTC. Thats how it works. You will NEVER be able to withdraw %100 of your money from this shit app.
 -Lets say you are using wallet on iOS. Congrats. Your money is stuck there. You cant withdraw even a nickel.
You can get OFFICIAL links to these OFFICIAL apps from the website.

Fifth. A few weeks ago they made an announcement about a scammer asking people for their wallet info. With the no-reply@abbcfoundation.com. Dude lol. We are not idiots. I have been in to coding and website design. I know how domains and hosting stuff work. ONLY THE OWNER of your domain can have access to mail service. A mail address with @abbcfoundation.com is one of your employees and you dont even know how to restrict him from using that email. If one of the "DEVELOPERS" of ABBC is reading this right now, i would strongly recommend you to start with the basics like HTML, Javascript or python before getting into blockchain. Here is the link to OFFICIAL tweet claiming an OFFICIAL mail address is SCAM. https://twitter.com/abbcfoundation/status/1052212063811096577

Sixth and the most important case. This project is scam and fraud that should be shut down immediately. Why? As some of you may know, they made an airdrop campaign that requires KYC. 100 ABBC for every participant and 20 ABBC for every referral. ABBC's ICO 1st round price was 1$ and last round was 3$. So minimum of 100$ worth of airdrop. Sounds cool right? So lots of people participated in this fraud. Campaign was supposed to end on september. But they postponed it to october. It was ok and acceptable. After the day airdrop was ended, this message was posted;

"Now the airdrop is finished. Your coins will be sent to your wallet address in FEW DAYS. Be noted that the user who did not enter their wallet address will not receive 100 ABBC and referral coins. Thank you for your participation."

What does few days mean? 3-5 days? 1 week? 2 weeks? Not 2 months. People sent their passport details for this airdrop. When people were asking kindly about the time of distribution on twitter, devs didnt even bother to make an announcement or reply people's questions. They dont even have a telegram group where people can talk. Just a useless announcement channel which is already the same with twitter. You can check the comments of tweets on their official twitter page: https://twitter.com/abbcfoundation

Im not mad or angry about this fraud. I just have sent my national ID which is not something valid in other countries. But i feel sad for people who sent their passport info.
So in conclusion, dont invest in this coin and try to convince people around you not to buy who are willing to invest in this scam. Project is meaningless, visionless. Devs are irresponsible, have lack of the knowledge about coding and blockchain, and most importantly have no communication with the investors and other people in community.
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December 03, 2018, 06:08:58 AM
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It is just a regulated pump and dump by the whale investors, trapping the investor with less amount. The only beneficial investor to this coin is the whale, and this coin is not officially the coin of alibaba that is well known with its founder Jack Ma.

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December 03, 2018, 06:27:24 AM
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I am not familiar with this project, therefore I did not find their announcement thread here, because if they made it possible it would be very easy for the fraud they did to be immediately revealed. The most important thing is Alibaba Group never stated about this project. So this just hijacks the alibaba name to look promising and attracts investors to get caught up in their fraud.

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December 03, 2018, 07:16:18 AM
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feeling that Alibaba Coin has been listed on CoinMarketCup, and has a fantastic price, whether it's a problem with Alibaba Coin, I first saw Alibaba COin I think is one of Alibaba Group Jack Ma, but after I saw the website and the team was not a Group Jack Ma, who made it, deserves the Alibaba Group to sue him
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December 03, 2018, 07:33:57 AM
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feeling that Alibaba Coin has been listed on CoinMarketCup, and has a fantastic price, whether it's a problem with Alibaba Coin, I first saw Alibaba COin I think is one of Alibaba Group Jack Ma, but after I saw the website and the team was not a Group Jack Ma, who made it, deserves the Alibaba Group to sue him

I encountered this maybe couple of months ago and my initial impression was that, they really didn't have any connection whatsoever with the real Alibaba Group. They are just using their name for maybe popularity so they can pump and dump their coin. It's very obvious back then that they didn't have anything to do with Jack Ma's multi-million dollar company. He should have done his research first so he didn't lose his money on this.
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December 03, 2018, 07:40:24 AM
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it is really unpleasant to find a coin that adopts the big name of a company for its own sake, even though the Alibaba Group does not have a problem, but this is a bit annoying, and all the reasons for investing here are not quality

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December 03, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
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It's a fake coin abusing the name of Alibaba Group, real owner of Alibaba Group is Jack Ma, he's very famous. Alibaba Group claimed that they don't have relation to Alibaba coin.

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December 03, 2018, 07:53:33 AM
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Wow thanks for the info ,I never knew this has nothing to do with jack ma and alibaba group ,you saved me ,why using the name out of the blue like that? They deserve to be sued ,just another pump and dump project ,as cryptocurrency is getting more mainstream so its getting more dangerous ,hope something is done to this
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December 06, 2018, 03:07:38 PM
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First of all, lets take a look at the name of the project. "Alibaba". Really? There are dozens of languages and thousands of words in the world. But Alibabacoin Foundation decided to use a commercial name which is already taken by the Chinese giant Alibaba Group and this lead to being sued by Alibaba Group. Even a monkey could think of this.

Second, irresponsibility of the dev team;
 -Their website is still not updated. Its almost 2019 and their roadmap shows that they are still on september 2018 milestone which says something about facial recognition on blockchain. Letting your mobile app use Face-id on iPhone or whatever its called on Android, to unlock the app, has nothing to do with the blockchain.
 -Block explorer issue. How hard it can be to buy a domain for block explorer? Why using an ip address for block explorer web site tho? How people will find your block explorer? The link is not even provided in their official website. I had to find it on one of the exchanges that listed ABBC. Here's the link : http://45.55.242.48:3001/

Third. Two different wallet apps for both mobile platforms. On iOS platform, the creator of the app is CEO of ABBC foundation. But the app looks really scam tho and ABBC foundation says dont use that app. I have no idea why Apple approved this app. I tried both. When you "sign-up" on iOS wallet, you get a confirmation mail from a domain that looks TOTALLY SCAM. support@abbcfoundation.org Official website ends with .com not .org When you signup for the android wallet which is recommended by ABBC foundation, you get a confirmation mail from ANOTHER domain that looks TOTALLY SCAM which i couldnt find due to i used gmail for it and it got deleted automatically because i received it in spam folder. Wallets are supposed to be offline. Not required to signup with an email. Wallets should have private keys or back phrases or whatever. Using an email and password to login to your wallet is not what blockchain is made for.

Fourth. Wallet has crypto transfer limits.
 -Lets say you are using wallet on android. You deposited 1 BTC to that wallet. (Its a multi crypto wallet which supports many cryptos) And then lets say you are gonna send 0.5 BTC to someone. You cant do it. Congrats. This useless apps lets you send only %11 of your total balance in 1 day. So first day you only will be able to send 0.11 BTC. Next day 0,0979 BTC. Next day 0,087131 BTC. Thats how it works. You will NEVER be able to withdraw %100 of your money from this shit app.
 -Lets say you are using wallet on iOS. Congrats. Your money is stuck there. You cant withdraw even a nickel.
You can get OFFICIAL links to these OFFICIAL apps from the website.

Fifth. A few weeks ago they made an announcement about a scammer asking people for their wallet info. With the no-reply@abbcfoundation.com. Dude lol. We are not idiots. I have been in to coding and website design. I know how domains and hosting stuff work. ONLY THE OWNER of your domain can have access to mail service. A mail address with @abbcfoundation.com is one of your employees and you dont even know how to restrict him from using that email. If one of the "DEVELOPERS" of ABBC is reading this right now, i would strongly recommend you to start with the basics like HTML, Javascript or python before getting into blockchain. Here is the link to OFFICIAL tweet claiming an OFFICIAL mail address is SCAM. https://twitter.com/abbcfoundation/status/1052212063811096577

Sixth and the most important case. This project is scam and fraud that should be shut down immediately. Why? As some of you may know, they made an airdrop campaign that requires KYC. 100 ABBC for every participant and 20 ABBC for every referral. ABBC's ICO 1st round price was 1$ and last round was 3$. So minimum of 100$ worth of airdrop. Sounds cool right? So lots of people participated in this fraud. Campaign was supposed to end on september. But they postponed it to october. It was ok and acceptable. After the day airdrop was ended, this message was posted;

"Now the airdrop is finished. Your coins will be sent to your wallet address in FEW DAYS. Be noted that the user who did not enter their wallet address will not receive 100 ABBC and referral coins. Thank you for your participation."

What does few days mean? 3-5 days? 1 week? 2 weeks? Not 2 months. People sent their passport details for this airdrop. When people were asking kindly about the time of distribution on twitter, devs didnt even bother to make an announcement or reply people's questions. They dont even have a telegram group where people can talk. Just a useless announcement channel which is already the same with twitter. You can check the comments of tweets on their official twitter page: https://twitter.com/abbcfoundation

Im not mad or angry about this fraud. I just have sent my national ID which is not something valid in other countries. But i feel sad for people who sent their passport info.
So in conclusion, dont invest in this coin and try to convince people around you not to buy who are willing to invest in this scam. Project is meaningless, visionless. Devs are irresponsible, have lack of the knowledge about coding and blockchain, and most importantly have no communication with the investors and other people in community.

wow, such a complex analysis! i am grateful. well, this looks like usual way of geeting quick money from investors. you know, it's great you have this experience to share, i hope next thing you'll invest will be great

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December 08, 2018, 09:40:43 AM
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This is a false Alibaba. This is a liar in the Arab countries. Their company is also called Alibaba but it is false. They faked the name and should be severely punished by international law, but I did not see it. So I think the world is not fair now, and wars may break out at any time.
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Updated the post due to ABBC foundation's try of getting rid of given promises evidences.
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December 21, 2018, 11:26:31 PM
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this is shitcoin. garbage and not useful. I think that such coins must be thrown from the market. it will cheat the beginner. I think this information must be known by all crypto users. especially investors.
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December 21, 2018, 11:41:29 PM
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from some information also this coin has got a problem from the official Alibab company where later if for example ABBC is guilty then it is very possible that a big big dump will occur because of this. because the team needs funds to overcome this.  Pump in that coin has more manipulation patterns in it so we have to be more carefull to choose any coin
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I lot of people have confusion with this, few say Alibaba coin is not related to the multi millionaire and the founder of Alibaba group jack ma. If he's involving in cryptocurrency I am sure he will make more popular about this with his wealth. Its better to research and plan according to it.

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from some information also this coin has got a problem from the official Alibab company where later if for example ABBC is guilty then it is very possible that a big big dump will occur because of this. because the team needs funds to overcome this.  Pump in that coin has more manipulation patterns in it so we have to be more carefull to choose any coin

They already lost on court and dump has happened also. ICO price was 1$ in the first round and 3$ in the last round. Its valued 0.10$ now lol. Big loss for poor investors.
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December 23, 2018, 07:45:22 PM
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These coin is still a big mystery to me, because, I never heard alibaba (official) make an announcement with these. And the price of this coin is potential to big pumps and dumps, which is a bit risky to those players who holds token in long term.

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These coin is still a big mystery to me, because, I never heard alibaba (official) make an announcement with these. And the price of this coin is potential to big pumps and dumps, which is a bit risky to those players who holds token in long term.

As i mentioned above, Alibaba Group sued Alibaba Foundation for the use of name. Their visionless name choice made them pay.
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It is just a regulated pump and dump by the whale investors, trapping the investor with less amount. The only beneficial investor to this coin is the whale, and this coin is not officially the coin of alibaba that is well known with its founder Jack Ma.

In that case you just comparing the said alibaba coins into bitcoin or other altcoins in the market that can be maninpulated by the whales in order to behave in such way that is favorable to them. I think we should less support it in the way to limit our investment and choose the best coin out there in the market.

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As for me, I agree with you. Investing in giants of the market isn't the best decision. Also I agree their financial report isn't so good. There are more interesting altcoins for investing.
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