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Everyone wants to live forever, always stay young and full of energy, but in our time it is impossible ... And in the future? The technologies of the future will allow you to live as long as you wish. And the science of the future will solve the problem of time travel - into the past ...
How would you react to this idea: 1. The man in our present is dying. 2. A moment before his death, he is evacuated into the future, leaving in return an exact copy of the body to prevent the hype around a series of mysterious disappearances 3. In the future, a person is reanimated and rejuvenated. 4. He lives on in the beautiful world.
To implement this idea, it is necessary to create a Foundation (working title "STYX Foundation") on the basis of the blockchain, to conduct ICO. The fund will accumulate funds in its accounts in bitcoins and ethereums until the time comes when it will be possible to carry out its plans. In the future, bitcoins and ethereums will cost significantly more, so the Fund will be able to fulfill its obligations to investors. And it will take a lot of funds, because you need not only to evacuate and rejuvenate people (and this is already a whole city with medical and physical institutes), but you will also need to embed newcomers into the society, ensure their accommodation, training and jobs in the world of the Future. I think so - it is important that self-awareness of your existence is constantly maintained, continuity of thought processes (which cannot be guaranteed during cryopreservation) - otherwise it is difficult to guarantee that the defrosted brain suspended after clinical death is you, not a copy from the restored media. Our method is guaranteed to save exactly your personality, because the LIVING person is evacuated in an instant BEFORE death.
1. We need to assemble a team to conduct ICO, legal and economic support for the establishment of the Fund. 2. Develop a scheme of interaction between the investor acquiring tokens and the Fund, which in future will evacuate each owner of the coin. (the coin owner will probably be the posthumous will to return the coin to the Fund with information about himself, the time and place of death). The recording is fixed in the blockchain. 3. The accounts will be controlled by several delegates selected by the coin holder community. 4. Create a Charter of the Fund, which will clearly state the ultimate goal, conditions and events upon the occurrence of which (and only then!) It will be possible to unlock the funds for the implementation of the rescue program. 5. Coins returned to the Fund can be re-implemented, since it is important to multiply the capitalization of the Fund so that it can fulfill its obligations. 6. The remuneration of the team will probably be in the coins of the Fund, since the project is initially non-commercial, it is rather an investment in your own future, an option to save yourself and your loved ones, even those who have already died. 7. All funds raised will be blocked, for 100 years.
P.S. The essence of the idea is that we are now raising funds and storing on the fund’s account for a very long time, until that very Future comes. Then, there, in the Future, with this money (bitcoins, ethereums) they will build a time machine and create a rescue team, which will travel from our Future into our time and take the coin owners with them. Where to fly and at what point for each of the investors, this information will be stored in the blockchain.
The topic is not disclosed, please ask questions - Truth is born in a dispute. =======================================================================
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December 03, 2018, 07:30:19 AM |
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I am curious, have anyone ever brought out a person or an animal from Cryonics and then proven that the memories of that person or animal was intact after they were revived. <It should be easy to prove, if the experiment was done on an animal first, because you can teach them a repetitive task before they are put down and then after they are revived, you can see if they remember the things that they were taught.> Most of the people are dumping large amounts of money into things like this, but the concept has not been proven and they are just hoping that future technology will be able to accomplish this. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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December 03, 2018, 06:55:52 PM |
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I am curious, have anyone ever brought out a person or an animal from Cryonics and then proven that the memories of that person or animal was intact after they were revived. <It should be easy to prove, if the experiment was done on an animal first, because you can teach them a repetitive task before they are put down and then after they are revived, you can see if they remember the things that they were taught.> Most of the people are dumping large amounts of money into things like this, but the concept has not been proven and they are just hoping that future technology will be able to accomplish this. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes, there cannot be complete certainty, but, in contrast to cryonics, the method I proposed guarantees the safety of the person when moving into the future. Subject to the possibility of time travel in the future.
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December 03, 2018, 11:39:13 PM |
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Cryonics and body preservation is the biggest form of scam that exists in the Biotech industry. If people only understood the simple science behind how humans can't be frozen and thawed like frogs or waterbears, then they'd stop wasting their time and money on this.
I certainly don't see the need to bring that kind of pseudoscience into the crypto-industry but hey! I can only speak for myself and I could be proven wrong anytime (although unlikely).
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December 04, 2018, 06:22:31 AM |
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Cryonics and body preservation is the biggest form of scam that exists in the Biotech industry. If people only understood the simple science behind how humans can't be frozen and thawed like frogs or waterbears, then they'd stop wasting their time and money on this.
I certainly don't see the need to bring that kind of pseudoscience into the crypto-industry but hey! I can only speak for myself and I could be proven wrong anytime (although unlikely).
Attention! I'm not talking about cryonics. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) 1. The man in our present is dying. 2. A moment before his death, he is evacuated into the future, leaving in return an exact copy of the body to prevent the hype around a series of mysterious disappearances 3. In the future, a person is reanimated and rejuvenated. 4. He lives on in the beautiful world.
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December 04, 2018, 07:31:47 AM |
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How many years in the future do you expect that will take to come up with: time travel and a way to renjuvinate a person? In a society like the one you describe where something like this is even possible, crypto would be worth 0 a long, long time before. Probably there would not be any need for any form of money either. Finally, you need to be Hari Seldon to plan something like this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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How many years in the future do you expect that will take to come up with: time travel and a way to renjuvinate a person? In a society like the one you describe where something like this is even possible, crypto would be worth 0 a long, long time before. Probably there would not be any need for any form of money either. Finally, you need to be Hari Seldon to plan something like this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Isaac Asimov, "The Foundation"? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - Or me need to be Stanislav Lem? ( "Summa Technologiae" ) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes, of course, a lot of unpredictable in this project. But any undertaking is risky. "Theoretical physicist Joseph Polchinsky of the University of California at Santa Barbara predicted the year of completion of the quantum theory of gravity. According to the scientist, this will happen in 2131, and the theory of strings, which the vast majority of modern physicists and mathematicians consider the only candidate for the role "Theories of everything." Bitcoin will live up to these days for sure. In any case, even if communism comes and the money is abolished, our foundation will serve, delivering to the descendants an unequivocal message asking for salvation, with information about specific people who want to continue living in this world. Then they will save all those who declared this, for reasons of humanism. And those who did not participate in the fund are not a fact. Not asked, so maybe they do not need?
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December 04, 2018, 08:48:47 PM |
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From the Internet: "" Einstein's theory unites space and time into one inseparable whole. As a result, any portal connecting two points of space can also connect two points in time. In other words, Einstein's theory allows for the possibility of time travel. The very concept of time has evolved over the centuries. For Newton, time was like an arrow; when released, it did not change its flight path and moved clearly and evenly to the target. Then Einstein proposed the concept of a curved space, and time became more like a river that wound through the Universe, now accelerating, then slowing down its run. But Einstein was worried about the danger that the river of time could shut itself in on itself. Perhaps there were whirlpools and sleeves in the river of time. In 1937, physicists noticed this danger when W.J. Van Stockum found a solution to the Einstein equations, which made time travel possible. He started with an infinitely long rotating cylinder. Although it is physically impossible to build an object with infinite dimensions, he calculated that if such a cylinder rotated at a speed close to the speed of light, he would carry the matter of space-time with him, just like the molasses is carried away by the mixer blades. (This “frame-dragging effect” (also known as frame-dragging) is also known as “the capture of the reference system” and was experimentally detected in detailed photographs of rotating black holes.) Any brave man who dared to pass by the cylinder would be sucked in at a fantastic speed. At the same time, it would seem to an outside observer that that person exceeded the speed of light. Although Van Stockum himself then did not understand that, having flown around the cylinder, in fact, it is possible to go back in time, at the moment preceding the moment of departure. If you left at noon, then by the time you return to the starting point, maybe, say, 6 o'clock of yesterday. The faster the cylinder rotates, the farther you can go back in time (with the only limitation being that you could not get into the moment before the cylinder itself was created). "" A cylinder of infinite length can be superstring.
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Quote from http://transhumanism-russia.ru "The development of knowledge and the evolution of social consciousness, both under the influence of the natural desire of people for immortality, and under the influence of the development of life extension methods (ie, technology to achieve immortality) in a short time (perhaps , already in the middle of the XXI century.) should lead to the formation of Homo longevus (Kurzmen, Gordon, 1982) or Homo immortalis (Vishhev, 1990), ie, a person for whom potentially infinite life will be the norm. consciousness can be that life and freedom will be higher social values. This, in turn, can lead to the elimination of wars and all forms of violence on a person. After the destruction of biocosmism, several scientists, the most prominent of whom were K. E. Tsiolkovsky, V. I Vernadsky, V. F. Kuprevich, who, together with the followers of N. F. Fedorov and some other philosophers, unite in the philosophical direction of "Russian cosmism" (Semenova, 1993). Its main features are the concept of a close relationship between man, the biosphere and the cosmos and their active evolution, which implies the need for a new conscious stage in the development of the world, directed by rational and moral humanity. At the same time, man himself is considered to be a kind of intermediate, imperfect, growing being, nevertheless capable of transforming not only the external world, but also his own nature. The latter naturally includes the extension of life and the attainment of immortality. In a more general sense, the transformation of human nature will lead to the fact that superconsciousness and superlife will replace consciousness and life in the present form. It is important to note the understanding by cosmists of the fact that the appearance of a person in a series of ascending life forms means a change of the main driving mechanisms of evolution - from biological to mental. " Interesting article. But the vast majority of people are not ready to accept the opportunity to live forever. Strange.
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"Bio-cosmism is the forerunner of modern scientific immortalism The understanding that the elimination of death can be achieved by the means of the science of the future began to take shape at the end of the seventeenth century. (Gruman, 1966). At the same time, the basic approaches to achieving physical immortality began to take shape: anti-aging, suspended animation and resurrection. However, the prerequisites for the synthesis of disparate ideas into an integral philosophical system were formed only at the beginning of the 20th century, when, firstly, the level and trends of science allowed to assume the possibility of achieving physical immortality in the relatively near future and put on the agenda the issue of conducting large-scale research for achieving this goal, and, secondly, as a result of the rapid development of the social sciences and the revolutionary movement within anarchism, an understanding of the key role of freedom was formed, as the basis of development of an optimal, stable and progressively developing society consisting of people with a high level of development of consciousness and, as a result, morality, of people whose behavior is mainly controlled by consciousness, and not by biosocial instincts. In other words, anarchists were aware of the connection between consciousness, freedom, physical immortality and socio-technological progress, they had an understanding of how to change the world, society, to bring the realization of physical immortality, and also how it can (and probably should) change society when people become immortal. These prerequisites were realized in Russia in 1910–20, when the philosophy of biocosmism was formed, which, by all indications, is the prototype of modern scientific immortalism (Vishev, 1993, 1996), and the biocosmists themselves are considered the most radical cosmists (Semenova, 1993). I would like to note that its appearance in Russia was far from accidental. First, at the beginning of the 20th century. ideas of physical immortality, achievable through scientific progress, were fairly widespread in Russia, perhaps more than in any other country in the world at that time. Their popularity was largely due to the fact that our compatriots played a leading role in their development and propaganda: N. F. Fedorov (argued the possibility and necessity of resurrection of all the deceased ancestors by their descendants), I. I. Mechnikov (justified the possibility of developing anti-aging methods, was one of the founders of gerontology), P. I. Bakhmetiev (one of the first to investigate the possibility of using anabiosis to prolong life). Secondly, the revolution of 1917 made enormous changes in public consciousness, the spirit of revolutionary transformations, the acceleration of progress caused an increased interest among people in the future, including ideas not only for the transformation of society, but also of man, and the key point of this transformation was the elimination his mortality - an idea that was widely discussed in the 20s. Thirdly, it was in Russia at that time that anarchism was most developed thanks to the activities of M. A. Bakunin, P. A. Kropotkin and other lesser-known Russian anarchists. "From http://transhumanism-russia.ru/content/view/122/31/-------------------------------------------------- ------------ Like this! In the early 20th century, Fedorov argued the possibility and necessity of the resurrection of all the deceased ancestors by their descendants.
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