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March 09, 2014, 01:05:09 PM
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I've noticed something that I haven't seen mentioned. I'd like your help identifying the symbol on Dorian Nakamoto's hat in the picture in this link (as well as if the site/pic looks legit).

http://www.dotphoto.com/ViewAlbum.asp?AID=6557679&IID=261245736

http://img.dotphoto.com/i/m/7C712078-0356-4E3F-83DA-80C4709B8BF0/261245736.jpg

It is dated 8-19-12

https://i.imgur.com/2ftMppv.jpg


The most obvious and likely explanation would be that it is related to railway signs. So far I haven't been able to locate any just like that though.

The closest thing I have been able to find to it so far is the anarcho-capitalist flag:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Ancapflag.svg/220px-Ancapflag.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalist_symbolism

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Gold-black bisected flag
The 'black-and-yellow' or 'black-and-gold' flag is used by anarcho-capitalists and other market anarchists. Like other anarchist flags, this flag is bisected diagonally. The right half in black is for anarchy and the yellow is intended to symbolise gold, a commodity of exchange often used in marketplaces unrestricted by state intervention. The flag was first used in public in Colorado in 1963 at an event organised by Robert LeFevre at Rampart College.[1]

In fact if you google image search for anarcho-capitalist hats and merchandise you will find things that like this:

https://i.imgur.com/yxyQ41K.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/nTt1EwA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DFT9TQd.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/2ftMppv.jpg

I had never seen the anarcho-capitalist flag until I started to look for symbols that could be circular with half gold/yellow and half black like the one on Dorian's hat.  The fact that the black and yellow were on the correct sides and at the correct angle made them the closest match of ANY images I could find.  BUT, Dorian's hat is not exactly the same in that the design has an outer circle. I would like to know what this hat and symbol represents. Maybe it's something obvious and you can tell me what an idiot I am for not knowing what it is. Thank you for any help with this!
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March 09, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
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How is this relevant to the Bitcoin Discussion?

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March 09, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
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Interesting....
40% of me thinks Dorian is Satoshi, and 60 doesn't
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March 09, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
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I tried google reverse image search but it rather searches by a yellowish color instead of the symbol. Maybe if you recreate the symbol you can find it that way.
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March 09, 2014, 01:35:53 PM
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Dorian could have been the guy behind the cryptography/math side of bitcoin, but sincerely doubt he did the communications part.


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March 09, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
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How is this relevant to the Bitcoin Discussion?

The cover story of Newsweek is about him being the inventor of bitcoin.  True or false, if you don't see how that's relevant, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.

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March 09, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
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I don't think Dorian is an anarchist, he participates in local government and town hall meetings, were he public states he loves his town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KLaskPoc7g

see at around 21 minutes.
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March 09, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
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It is reminiscent of the eurotunnel logo so the cap could be a purchase from a visit or trip through a new rail tunnel. Japan has a few substantial rail tunnels. The writing on the side of the cap - could it be Japanese lettering? 
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March 09, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
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Mr. Nakamoto is far too intelligent to be one of those suburban-white kid clueless-about-the-rest-of-the-world douchebag an-caps.

You know it's only dumbass rich white kids who are an-caps, right? You dipshits damage the good name of anarchism in your horrendous ignorance.

Real anarchists don't like coercion and force. Real anarchists despise markets, capitalism, and exploitation.

Please read: http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF

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Mr. Nakamoto is far too intelligent to be one of those suburban-white kid clueless-about-the-rest-of-the-world douchebag an-caps.

You know it's only dumbass rich white kids who are an-caps, right? You dipshits damage the good name of anarchism in your horrendous ignorance.

Real anarchists don't like coercion and force. Real anarchists despise markets, capitalism, and exploitation.

Please read: http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF

Preach on Comrade. I suggest you free yourself from that evil capitalist tool called Bitcoin. Private keys should be shared with all or destroyed so the wealth is equally distributed to all. Bitcoin must be a nefarious tool as it allows evil, and very white, anarcho-capitalists to hoard and hide their wealth amongst many different anonymous addresses rather than forcing equal distribution of wealth amongst our syndicate in an egalitarian fashion. I am sure you have an alt that would enforce attaching identities to wallets instead so we can insure a fair distribution of resources amongst our brethren in the collective.  Tongue

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March 09, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
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Mr. Nakamoto is far too intelligent to be one of those suburban-white kid clueless-about-the-rest-of-the-world douchebag an-caps.

Can confirm.

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March 09, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
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I was unable to find the exact logo, but I did manage to find this...




"In black and yellow gold. The Anarchy symbol. The best known symbol of Anarchism. Combining a circle and the letter a. This unique design incorporates the black and gold or yellow Anarcho Capitalist, Market Anarchist, libertarian anarchy flag and colors."

Apparently the C (half moon) shape can be associated with crypto-anarchism https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-Anarchism , Crypto Libertarianism and Libertarian Entrepreneurship when in yellow or gold. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

The very fact that this logo has no anarchy symbol might suggest Crypto Libertarian Entrepreneurship in action.

I very much doubt that there is such a thing as the Crypto Libertarian Model Railway Club ?

See: The Tech Model Railroad Club of MIT - http://youtu.be/STVdCJaG0bY?t=3m

Dorian S Nakamoto is quite clearly a genius with some political views that would seem to fit with the early days of this forum and perhaps also had the ability to develop parts of Bitcoin.

or perhaps this guy was actually framed, is a scapegoat https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoat or was even hacked by a group or by his employers ?

There are many good and very intelligent people that have done important work on high level government or related projects and they have absolutely no idea what they have been working on.

I will quote a reversed anonymous style statement : "I'm autonomous. I stand alone. I don't want forgiveness, I've done nothing wrong. I do forget stuff, so don't expect me."

Consider this Satoshi. This is not Satoshi. There is no Satoshi. I'm not Satoshi. You are not Satoshi. We are all Satoshi.  Cool

Furthermore, might I suggest that lunch on Bitcoin Pizza day is now free for everyone !

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Wow this is actually the most compelling thing I've seen. I'm not sold it's him, but very interesting. I mean the chances of a completely normal person wearing a clear ancap logo has got to be rare right?

Mr. Nakamoto is far too intelligent to be one of those suburban-white kid clueless-about-the-rest-of-the-world douchebag an-caps.



There's plenty of an cap academics you dolt. There's also smart people who believe stupid things
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March 09, 2014, 05:16:54 PM
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The History of The Tech Model Railroad Club of MIT is considered very important for all 'hackers'...

See: Anonymous The Story of the Hacktivists Full Documentary) - http://youtu.be/2rlfJ4V7Zu0?t=6m30s

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March 09, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
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I don't think Dorian is an anarchist, he participates in local government and town hall meetings, were he public states he loves his town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KLaskPoc7g

see at around 21 minutes.


04 March 2014. Hmm. Seems to me that if I were trying really hard to convince the world that I was not some crazy crypto-anarchist, I would have routinely participated in local government throughout the years. I might also write letters to city gov in crappy, broken english so that people say "yeah, defo not Satoshi." The man worked for the U.S. Gov for many years in top-security-clearance research positions, likely had to write many reports, the chance that he actually writes like a 7th grader is slim to none.
I would also intentionally mispronounce Bitcoin as "Bitcom" in an AP interview. "Look, see, he mispronounced Bitcoin. Since it is impossible to do that intentionally unless you have a Doctorate degree in acting and theatre, he must not be Satoshi, QED."
For the record I'm not saying he's Satoshi as there is not enough proof; nor am I saying he's not Satoshi. I love how people tend to gravitate towards "He's Satoshi!1" or "He's not Satoshi!1" when there is really not definitive evidence to support either conclusion. Learn to get comfortable with gray areas! Sometimes there is not a QED and you have to be patient ;-)
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March 09, 2014, 06:32:54 PM
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I don't think Dorian is an anarchist, he participates in local government and town hall meetings, were he public states he loves his town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KLaskPoc7g

see at around 21 minutes.

Plus there's the whole part where he worked for the government on classified projects.

04 March 2014. Hmm. Seems to me that if I were trying really hard to convince the world that I was not some crazy crypto-anarchist, I would have routinely participated in local government throughout the years. I might also write letters to city gov in crappy, broken english so that people say "yeah, defo not Satoshi." The man worked for the U.S. Gov for many years in top-security-clearance research positions, likely had to write many reports, the chance that he actually writes like a 7th grader is slim to none.

His brother claimed he had a stroke at some point, could be after he wrote bitcoin. A stroke can cause mental impairment.  If he did have a stroke he might not even remember how to access his old private keys.

Also, when people get older they tend to speak more slowly, I've noticed. Even if they were very intelligent when they were younger.

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March 09, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
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Wow this is actually the most compelling thing I've seen. I'm not sold it's him, but very interesting. I mean the chances of a completely normal person wearing a clear ancap logo has got to be rare right?

Mr. Nakamoto is far too intelligent to be one of those suburban-white kid clueless-about-the-rest-of-the-world douchebag an-caps.



There's plenty of an cap academics you dolt. There's also smart people who believe stupid things
Hmm, that's a fair point actually. Just look at all the religious "scientists".

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March 10, 2014, 02:00:23 AM
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/r/trains doesn't seem to recognize the logo.

http://www.reddit.com/r/trains/comments/1zze8b/rtrains_please_help_could_you_identify_this_symbol/
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Shit's getting cray.
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March 10, 2014, 02:40:45 AM
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Could just be some yin-yang variant.

Also if someone makes a copy of the logo and does a google image search for it, there might be some hits.
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