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24/7 - 20 (39.2%)
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December 08, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
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It's a shame not to have been here at the beginning of Bitcoin, you are part of something very special.

it 1st showed up on my radar mid 2011 when a few computer tech sites started posting about it. i happened to have hardware that met the gpu requirements, so figured why not? i had no idea it would take off as it has, figured it was just a neat experiment on digital money. although in retrospect i should have.

When someone asks me what Bitcoin is, I try to explain what it is and take the opportunity to tell him to read a bit about Bitcoin, one of the books that is pretty well explained is Mastering Bitcoin Unlocking Digital Cryptocurrencies.



yup, got that book on my end table. a must read for anyone who wants to understand (or at least understand better) btc rather than just use it.

You are giving me a lot of envy, healthy, but envy.Grin
Receiving the first Bitcoins mined at home had to be fantastic.
It was a good experiment and save the Bitcoins until today is the best reward.
Congratulations.

Regarding the book, yes, you would have to force it to buy it before having Bitcoin, another one that I recommend is Satoshi Nakamoto White Paper https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

The book and the White Paper are required reading.

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Bitstamp (twitter) they have published this photo recommending installing a Full Node to improve the network.



We are not alone.

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Nodes online:



BTCitcoin Core / 9468

https://coin.dance/nodes/core





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December 09, 2018, 07:33:19 PM
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I only run full-nodes when i use my computer since computer isn't designed to run 24/7
If this is true, it depends on the computer, it is not convenient to be there 24/7, at least you need a box that is well ventilated to maintain a correct temperature.

It's true, especially if you use cheap or old parts. I'll measure my ventilation, temperature and avg. watt usage later.

When someone asks me what Bitcoin is, I try to explain what it is and take the opportunity to tell him to read a bit about Bitcoin, one of the books that is pretty well explained is Mastering Bitcoin Unlocking Digital Cryptocurrencies.



yup, got that book on my end table. a must read for anyone who wants to understand (or at least understand better) btc rather than just use it.

Make sure you read 2nd edition as it contains newer technology (such as SegWit) and fix few wrong information.

Also, it's free (and legal, obviously) at https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook. So people don't have excuse anymore.

Nodes online:



BTCitcoin Core / 9468

and actual full nodes number is higher as most full nodes client don't enable port-forwarding, even though there's no accurate way to measure it's number

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In the future I want to run a full node
I have questions
I need a very powerful computer?
How much CPU power?
How much hard disk Gb?
Hard disk HDD or SSD?
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December 10, 2018, 11:55:24 AM
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In the future I want to run a full node
I have questions

most info you need is in a link right in the 1st post:
https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#minimum-requirements

I need a very powerful computer?

no. a rasperry pi 3 would do. or an intel atom from any netbook. basically if the computer less than 10 years old it will do.

How much hard disk Gb?
Hard disk HDD or SSD?

500 gb should last a few years at the rate the blockchain is growing. currently the blockchain is ~210gb. a ssd will make syncing faster but not needed, mechanical drives are fine for a node.

blockchain growth chart can be found here:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/647523/worldwide-bitcoin-blockchain-size/

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I only run full-nodes when i use my computer since computer isn't designed to run 24/7
If this is true, it depends on the computer, it is not convenient to be there 24/7, at least you need a box that is well ventilated to maintain a correct temperature.

It's true, especially if you use cheap or old parts. I'll measure my ventilation, temperature and avg. watt usage later.

When someone asks me what Bitcoin is, I try to explain what it is and take the opportunity to tell him to read a bit about Bitcoin, one of the books that is pretty well explained is Mastering Bitcoin Unlocking Digital Cryptocurrencies.



yup, got that book on my end table. a must read for anyone who wants to understand (or at least understand better) btc rather than just use it.

Make sure you read 2nd edition as it contains newer technology (such as SegWit) and fix few wrong information.

Also, it's free (and legal, obviously) at https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook. So people don't have excuse anymore.

Nodes online:



BTCitcoin Core / 9468

and actual full nodes number is higher as most full nodes client don't enable port-forwarding, even though there's no accurate way to measure it's number

Thanks for the 2nd edition book, Antonopoulus.
Ventilation is essential for the indoor temperature, a good fan will improve sure.
Yes, I know, I'm going to add information about the number of visible nodes with more than 8 active connections and those who are only active as clients.

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Running Full Node

The Bitcoin Core GUI are several icons. If you hover over the signal strength icon, it will tell you how many connections you have.



The icon won’t turn "green" until you have more than 8 active connections, which only happens if inbound connections are allowed.

Peer info in Bitcoin Core GUI https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#gui-peer-info

Peer info in Bitcoin Core daemon https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#daemon-peer-info

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In the future I want to run a full node
I have questions
I need a very powerful computer?
How much CPU power?
How much hard disk Gb?
Hard disk HDD or SSD?
Nice thread and design, I still have no merits, I would give 1 merit but I do not have. Grin

Thanks for your support.

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Good web on the state of the Lightning Network

Number of Nodes
Number of Channels
Network Capacity
and more information

Lightning Network Search and Analysis Engine https://1ml.com/

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Many nodes, more decentralization, better for the network and for Bitcoin.

Rewards for having an active node, you do not have.
I get the reason for running a node, but I don't have the spare memory/computing power to do so--and there's no reward for running one, so I temporarily un-ignored this section and voted "no" because I saw your thread in Meta. 

Don't laugh at me or call me names, but I was experimenting with earning interest through PIVX and downloaded the whole blockchain and kept it running, and it just made everything else on my computer run really slow.  I'm not a huge computer guy, don't own any spare laptops or anything, and my internet connection isn't the greatest, so I nixed that whole idea.  As an aside, I think I bought the PIVX when it was around $3 and look where it is now: $0.49.  So I'd like to say screw PIVX in addition to everything I wrote above.

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https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/
it says 9737 differnt types of nodes at time of posting
if you then search for 1037 (tag that suggests running full node services)
it says 6295 at time of posting

thats 65% of nodes are full nodes


and going back to the near 10k diverse nodes.. if you search out the current block height
it says 5805 at time of posting
thats under 60% that are uptodate of all nodes.

which means that the 65% of full nodes are not all uptodate

oh. also out of the near 10k nodes 30% of them are all hoarded on amazon, hetzner and digital ocean servers. meaning not decentralised.

so the representation of decentralised, diverse, uptodate and fully validating nodes is more closer to 3k than it is to 10k

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Many nodes, more decentralization, better for the network and for Bitcoin.

Rewards for having an active node, you do not have.
I get the reason for running a node, but I don't have the spare memory/computing power to do so--and there's no reward for running one, so I temporarily un-ignored this section and voted "no" because I saw your thread in Meta.  

Don't laugh at me or call me names, but I was experimenting with earning interest through PIVX and downloaded the whole blockchain and kept it running, and it just made everything else on my computer run really slow.  I'm not a huge computer guy, don't own any spare laptops or anything, and my internet connection isn't the greatest, so I nixed that whole idea.  As an aside, I think I bought the PIVX when it was around $3 and look where it is now: $0.49.  So I'd like to say screw PIVX in addition to everything I wrote above.


If, unfortunately, the connection to the Internet is indispensable, be it good, this is a difficult point to solve, I am sure that if I did not have these problems I would have an online node.

https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/
it says 9737 differnt types of nodes at time of posting
if you then search for 1037 (tag that suggests running full node services)
it says 6295 at time of posting

thats 65% of nodes are full nodes


and going back to the near 10k diverse nodes.. if you search out the current block height
it says 5805 at time of posting
thats under 60% that are uptodate of all nodes.

which means that the 65% of full nodes are not all uptodate

oh. also out of the near 10k nodes 30% of them are all hoarded on amazon, hetzner and digital ocean servers. meaning not decentralised.

so the representation of decentralised, diverse, uptodate and fully validating nodes is more closer to 3k than it is to 10k

Your answer is a good reason to encourage everyone to install a Full Node,
I hope that this thread arouses curiosity and we increase the number.

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December 18, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
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VB1001:
Please search the forum how to combine quotes from different posts from different members into one reply. Don't worry, it's easy
The above 2 posts has been made with 6 minutes difference, so it would be just easier to edit the first reply and insert the content of your second reply into the first post. You can also delete the second post, the topic would become more easy to read and you won't get reported in the end (it's against the rules to post several replies in a row into the same topic).

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Nodes online:



BTCitcoin Core / 9468






This graphic is wrong, or, at least, not totally true about the real number. According to @gmaxwell: "that page only lists ones that accept inbound connections". The actual number could be over 50 thousand. Still, it may sound small, but it is not. This number already guarantees the necessary statistical reliability. And more nodes would be useful to ensure individual security and privacy, but would not be totally necessary or urgent at this time.

I do not know if bitcoin-seeder still works, but it could deliver better numbers: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder

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Ok, I'm going to try the software bitcoin-seeder.

Bitcoin is only useful if it is decentralized.
The larger the hashrate a single miner controls, the more centralized Bitcoin.

One of the reasons why the increase in the size of the Bitcoin block is not a solution, is because if the block increases in size, the individual nodes will be excluded.
This is a danger for any network, not just Bitcoin.
The larger the block size the more centralization.

Start more individual Full Nodes is the solution.

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If, unfortunately, the connection to the Internet is indispensable, be it good, this is a difficult point to solve, I am sure that if I did not have these problems I would have an online node.

home users that naively think connecting their (imagine worse case)1mb connection to 100 nodes is helping. it is not.
if you have low bandwidth its better to only connect to 10 nodes. thus the 10 nodes get the data relayed sooner.

no one wants to be connected at a speed of 0.01. when they could be connected to a node at 0.1
it puts less strain on the user AND less strain on the network this way.

imagine it this way. your house. you want to open it up as a homeless shelter. it can only accommodate 10 beds happily.
do you think cramming in 100 people is helping those people. or is it better to help just 10 people and let others find another house where if everyone offered a room for 10 people everyone becomes happy.

so in short if your bandwidth is tight. just connect to less nodes, better for you, better for those connected to you.
if 10 nodes is a problem. try 5, if that a problem try 2.. just dont go up to high numbers and then cry that your internet is super slow

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Nodes online:

BTCitcoin Core / 9468

This graphic is wrong, or, at least, not totally true about the real number. According to @gmaxwell: "that page only lists ones that accept inbound connections". The actual number could be over 50 thousand. Still, it may sound small, but it is not. This number already guarantees the necessary statistical reliability. And more nodes would be useful to ensure individual security and privacy, but would not be totally necessary or urgent at this time.

I do not know if bitcoin-seeder still works, but it could deliver better numbers: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder

AFAIK it's not wrong as it only show full nodes which open listening port 8333 and configure forwarding ports properly, the page should state this information.

You also can use https://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/software.html to check more accurate number, even though i'm not sure how updated is the page.

If, unfortunately, the connection to the Internet is indispensable, be it good, this is a difficult point to solve, I am sure that if I did not have these problems I would have an online node.
home users that naively think connecting their (imagine worse case)1mb connection to 100 nodes is helping. it is not.
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You're right, but some client by default only connect to up-to 8 nodes and people who can tweak such configuration should able to know that it doesn't help the network.

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Nodes online:
BTCitcoin Core / 9468

This graphic is wrong, or, at least, not totally true about the real number. According to @gmaxwell: "that page only lists ones that accept inbound connections".
AFAIK it's not wrong as it only show full nodes which open listening port 8333 and configure forwarding ports properly, the page should state this information.

You also can use https://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/software.html to check more accurate number, even though i'm not sure how updated is the page.

If, unfortunately, the connection to the Internet is indispensable, be it good, this is a difficult point to solve, I am sure that if I did not have these problems I would have an online node.
home users that naively think connecting their (imagine worse case)1mb connection to 100 nodes is helping. it is not.
--snip--

You're right, but some client by default only connect to up-to 8 nodes and people who can tweak such configuration should able to know that it doesn't help the network.

probably better if your gonna use lukes charts to atleast use the more useful one
https://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/branches.html ~65% are capable of being full nodes, but it doesnt really show how many actually are (not prunned)

and as for home users with bad internet or using it as an excuse i have seen many times when they post their logs they ramped up their connection count

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Interesting article:

Pierre Rochard > "Lightning Adoption Will Basically Mirror Bitcoin Adoption"

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/pierre-rochard-lightning-adoption-will-basically-mirror-bitcoin-adoption/

Easiest Bitcoin Lightning Guide!

https://medium.com/@pierre_rochard/windows-macos-lightning-network-284bd5034340

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