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December 07, 2018, 02:21:40 PM
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Friends, what do you think about the whales of the crypto market, it’s no secret that the main holders influence the situation sometimes very strongly, maybe I don’t understand something, so I wanted to ask you: isn't it time to support crypto and do something? Who can benefit from a catastrophic market decline? And of course, how do you think who or what can affect the current situation?
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December 07, 2018, 02:50:26 PM
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The one who are holding can manipulate this decentralized market and as our knowledge they are doing this always and make more benfits from the crypto market.BUt its not going to be last forever since when the new people coming to the crypto investments everyday so the investments holding from the whales will get liquidated to the new holders and it will gradually starts to decrease from the huge manipulation range.So whales are getting benefits for now but its will be decreasing when the adoption increases.









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December 07, 2018, 06:24:04 PM
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Whales have certain influence on the market but to my opinion not so significant as many think. They still don't have such big power to manipulate the market fully and to cause such big dump as we are facing now.
And who benefits from current situation? I think everyone who has enough funds to buy more coins now. Maybe it's not looking so right now but Bitcoin will recover and they will make the profit.

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December 07, 2018, 10:10:25 PM
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When the market drops, the whales are accountable of it. But as you've said, large holders are influencing the market so if the market starts to recover, they get no credit right?

What should we do now? stay focus in the market and don't ever try to panic. In that case, you are adding to the people that are lessening the supply of bitcoin in the circulation. What can affect the market right now? I guess you mean what should the market must have to make it stable again. Well, more money comes in - the higher demand.

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December 08, 2018, 01:50:01 PM
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There are holder whales and non-holder whales. I knew a whale who owns tens of thousands of BTC, but a non-holder, she sold all the BTC around $14000. And I believe there are many of those non-holder whale and caused bad for the market.
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December 08, 2018, 02:08:45 PM
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I guess whales currently don't have a big influence on the market. maybe at this time we can use it to be able to buy lots of coins at cheap prices. moments like this can provide benefits but still have to be careful because current prices continue to decline, need a good analysis so that we can win.
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December 29, 2018, 10:52:10 PM
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whales will continue to be a player in the crypto market because it benefits them with manipulations that can have a major influence in decreasing or increasing prices that are temporary in my opinion, when they reduce prices they want to buy more, and vice versa when they provoke prices to go up then they will sell more. we just need to know the pattern they want to make and follow it if they want to profit in the crypto market
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December 30, 2018, 03:03:27 AM
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the role of whales is very influential for trade in the market which can provide short price speculation, pause has various networks, both media and government
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December 30, 2018, 07:51:24 AM
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Like I always maintained, whales would only set the motion for action its the entries market participants that ensure it happens through their actions following such direction set. A whale can decide to buy at an higher rate thereby set the tone for a marginal increase in the price of say btc but the moment the generality of the market just ignore such moves, in no distant time, the price goes back to its initial position before the earlier move but would not be the case should everybody start buying. The same thing happens in a case where there is a downward trend in price. The point is, it mostly determined by the vast people operating in the market than the whales.
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December 31, 2018, 08:50:47 AM
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Friends, what do you think about the whales of the crypto market, it’s no secret that the main holders influence the situation sometimes very strongly, maybe I don’t understand something, so I wanted to ask you: isn't it time to support crypto and do something? Who can benefit from a catastrophic market decline? And of course, how do you think who or what can affect the current situation?


I think whales are are buying up everything and holding their favourite coins or tokens in their favourite projects

They play a long game and are usually very smart strategists who have inside knowledge on things
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December 31, 2018, 02:19:18 PM
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Friends, what do you think about the whales of the crypto market, it’s no secret that the main holders influence the situation sometimes very strongly, maybe I don’t understand something, so I wanted to ask you: isn't it time to support crypto and do something? Who can benefit from a catastrophic market decline? And of course, how do you think who or what can affect the current situation?

First, everyone can still benefit from the worsening market condition, whales, casual traders like you and me can still profit. But the thing with whales is that they have deep pockets that's why we always said that they can manipulate the market in many ways. This is a game so you better be prepare and you always need to used you common sense as well, just saying.

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From my point of view regardless if your a whale or not you cannot control the market if cryptomafiaindex starts moving and starts showing fake volumes and prices and when i say about cryptomafiaindex i mean is those exchanges and price indexing like coinmarketcap where they manipulate the price to their will to make a bullish or bearish trend.

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December 31, 2018, 05:10:31 PM
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Most participants in these markets are mindless goons looking for a direction to latch on to and lack the gumption, or balls, to do it themselves. Whales are the ones who provide that direction for them.

What we perceive as whales may have less actual financial fire power than the saps who back up the sudden moves initiated by them with a strong push of their own that reinforces the original and more modest one.



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January 01, 2019, 01:45:31 PM
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Most participants in these markets are mindless goons looking for a direction to latch on to and lack the gumption, or balls, to do it themselves. Whales are the ones who provide that direction for them.

What we perceive as whales may have less actual financial fire power than the saps who back up the sudden moves initiated by them with a strong push of their own that reinforces the original and more modest one.




And these whales do exist no matter what but as you said these would really have rankings when it comes to financial capability or capacity. Some would really just act like a trigger then
the others will do the rest. I heavily agree that they are the ones who do provide that direction so for us small traders its either we would able to took advantage on such movement or would easily be
eaten up along the way.

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I heavily agree that they are the ones who do provide that direction so for us small traders its either we would able to took advantage on such movement or would easily be
eaten up along the way.
This is not due to crypto markets but it is an usual practice in every markets. Whales are existing everywhere and we cannot do anything about that. We can be sure about few interesting aspects of trading which are based on fundamental of markets.

1. Whales will lose their power when marketcap of an asset will be very big. Yes, whales may not able to overcome against many small investors once we are having bitcoin prices into moon.

2. Fundamentals of technical analysis will be the final winner regardless of how severe manipulations are being taking place.

As of now, we cannot do anything about whales dominance into bitcoin markets as bitcoin mining was designed in such a way it gives more number of bitcoins to early miners and adopters. So, we need to bear all the pain of manipulation of bitcoin prices until bitcoin prices will be hitting moon.
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January 02, 2019, 01:57:25 PM
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Most participants in these markets are mindless goons looking for a direction to latch on to and lack the gumption, or balls, to do it themselves. Whales are the ones who provide that direction for them.

Perhaps we can call them the "starters", for shaking the market in either direction. And one the whale starts something, those mindless goons follow the lead and then all hell breaks loose.

What we perceive as whales may have less actual financial fire power than the saps who back up the sudden moves initiated by them with a strong push of their own that reinforces the original and more modest one.

Maybe if someone is new in the market, they will be really intimidated by this so called whales but the sooner they understand how everything works the less influenced they can have in this market.

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January 02, 2019, 03:03:17 PM
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Most participants in these markets are mindless goons looking for a direction to latch on to and lack the gumption, or balls, to do it themselves. Whales are the ones who provide that direction for them.

Perhaps we can call them the "starters", for shaking the market in either direction. And one the whale starts something, those mindless goons follow the lead and then all hell breaks loose.

What we perceive as whales may have less actual financial fire power than the saps who back up the sudden moves initiated by them with a strong push of their own that reinforces the original and more modest one.

Maybe if someone is new in the market, they will be really intimidated by this so called whales but the sooner they understand how everything works the less influenced they can have in this market.

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January 05, 2019, 07:18:24 AM
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Friends, what do you think about the whales of the crypto market, it’s no secret that the main holders influence the situation sometimes very strongly, maybe I don’t understand something, so I wanted to ask you: isn't it time to support crypto and do something? Who can benefit from a catastrophic market decline? And of course, how do you think who or what can affect the current situation?
Anyone can benefit from the market as long they have been Hodling the coin before then. It doesn’t benefit only the whales, you yourself can still buy when the market price is down and wait for it to go up again. That’s what the whales do, they buy coins when the price is declining and then pump it, if you buy at the same time you will follow to enjoy the profit that comes later on.
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Friends, what do you think about the whales of the crypto market, it’s no secret that the main holders influence the situation sometimes very strongly, maybe I don’t understand something, so I wanted to ask you: isn't it time to support crypto and do something? Who can benefit from a catastrophic market decline? And of course, how do you think who or what can affect the current situation?
Anyone can benefit from the market as long they have been Hodling the coin before then. It doesn’t benefit only the whales, you yourself can still buy when the market price is down and wait for it to go up again. That’s what the whales do, they buy coins when the price is declining and then pump it, if you buy at the same time you will follow to enjoy the profit that comes later on.
I agreed with you, in addition, the more weak hand holders do panic selling the whales will make more smile by then. So, the only real crypto enthusiast will understand the market movement they can hold as long as they didn't see their profit. The best choice is to hold rather than cutting a loose that we all know that it is really won't help the market.
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January 05, 2019, 08:33:30 PM
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From my point of view regardless if your a whale or not you cannot control the market if cryptomafiaindex starts moving and starts showing fake volumes and prices and when i say about cryptomafiaindex i mean is those exchanges and price indexing like coinmarketcap where they manipulate the price to their will to make a bullish or bearish trend.
Whales can influence the market since they are holding much coins that is enough to make the price move. Let’s accept it and know how to ride with them. This already happen when a big holders of bitcoin sold his holdings and support bch, the market crash that time and until now we are still down.
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