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December 10, 2018, 01:48:46 PM
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And now? You know I have some years of experience with stocks in the Brazilian asset market. I have tried graphically to find the end of this market low and seller but bao y in a logic equal to the stock market. Could someone explain me a way to understand the graphic signals for the crypto market? Is there any setup for bitclin, ethereum and other assets? Thank you friends.

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December 10, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
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I don't think technical analysis isn't going to help you that much in looking for the "bottom" in the first place, especially knowing that we're talking about bitcoin and not stocks/bonds/etc. Probably the best move is simply to just buy a few amounts of bitcoin every week or so, as the price goes down. That way, you sort of control your risk. Sure, you definitely could get very lucky by guessing the bottom, but going all in on a certain price point in a bear market is not a good move in my opinion.

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December 10, 2018, 02:13:41 PM
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And now? You know I have some years of experience with stocks in the Brazilian asset market. I have tried graphically to find the end of this market low and seller but bao y in a logic equal to the stock market. Could someone explain me a way to understand the graphic signals for the crypto market? Is there any setup for bitclin, ethereum and other assets? Thank you friends.

Cryptocurrencies are quite different from other trading platforms because every altcoin follows only one coin and they really hope that Bitcoin will go up.
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December 10, 2018, 02:19:35 PM
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And now? You know I have some years of experience with stocks in the Brazilian asset market. I have tried graphically to find the end of this market low and seller but bao y in a logic equal to the stock market. Could someone explain me a way to understand the graphic signals for the crypto market? Is there any setup for bitclin, ethereum and other assets? Thank you friends.

Cryptocurrencies are quite different from other trading platforms because every altcoin follows only one coin and they really hope that Bitcoin will go up.

I understand. I understand that the altcoins are valued by bitcoin, in satoshis. But these assets also have a graphic history, so they can be abalised and studied. as well as have resistance and support, correct?

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December 10, 2018, 02:22:03 PM
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And now? You know I have some years of experience with stocks in the Brazilian asset market. I have tried graphically to find the end of this market low and seller but bao y in a logic equal to the stock market. Could someone explain me a way to understand the graphic signals for the crypto market? Is there any setup for bitclin, ethereum and other assets? Thank you friends.

From the chart I set up, the background has been lost a long time. I've been doing what you suggested. buying slowly and making average price. but by the charts it was impossible to know the moment of market reversal.

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December 10, 2018, 02:57:56 PM
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this market is way different than stock market , There are big whales in it and also less regulation , some people play with coins in her which is illegal in stock market , so I would suggest you that you don't count on technical analysing very much , it would let you down most of the times.


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December 10, 2018, 03:47:36 PM
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this market is way different than stock market , There are big whales in it and also less regulation , some people play with coins in her which is illegal in stock market , so I would suggest you that you don't count on technical analysing very much , it would let you down most of the times.

Ok. I will be following and studying more in the market. One hour I learn. I think. Hehehe

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December 10, 2018, 05:02:22 PM
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I understand. I understand that the altcoins are valued by bitcoin, in satoshis. But these assets also have a graphic history, so they can be abalised and studied. as well as have resistance and support, correct?

Altcoins do not generally follow bitcoins price movement, the situation is there are lots of shitcoins with no real product and no price support which Lea on the forum generated from bitcoin.

Looking into the market you would be couple of coins and tokens going against the market.
Bitcoin dominates over half the cryptocurrency market so it naturally controls the market

Also, you should not post consecutively on the forum, best to edit your next post into your previous post.
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December 10, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
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And now? You know I have some years of experience with stocks in the Brazilian asset market. I have tried graphically to find the end of this market low and seller but bao y in a logic equal to the stock market. Could someone explain me a way to understand the graphic signals for the crypto market? Is there any setup for bitclin, ethereum and other assets? Thank you friends.

Charts analyzation, reading signals etc. are "some of the references" when making a speculation and prediction in crypto. In other words, you shouldn't rely on purely on charting because a sudden "trend" can spoiled it anytime.

How to find the bottom? You can't. That's how volatile crypto is. Just imagined how more on altcoins.

This requires more discussion. Well then, goodluck on your 1 hour study.

Ok. I will be following and studying more in the market. One hour I learn. I think. Hehehe

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December 10, 2018, 06:27:16 PM
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First off stocks compared to cryptocurrencies behave differently as a result they can't have the same way of analyzing together. The only way they can be analyze the same way is by technical analysis and even by that it still a long way to go. In the cryptocurrency market you cannot really see the bottom or even its potential ATH, you can only see its supports and resistances which is pretty useful for short term trades as well as looking for what price levels are stronger for the crypto asset. Supports are very important in order for you to see where it might bounce, you may not buy BTC at its exact bottom but you can buy it near its bottom when it is recovering.
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December 10, 2018, 09:26:04 PM
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And now? You know I have some years of experience with stocks in the Brazilian asset market. I have tried graphically to find the end of this market low and seller but bao y in a logic equal to the stock market. Could someone explain me a way to understand the graphic signals for the crypto market? Is there any setup for bitclin, ethereum and other assets? Thank you friends.
Guessing the bottom now is quite difficult and I don't think it will also help you. Just buy those coins that you like and list each of your investments to know if your investments are gaining or burning. And also set a target price before you sell your coins, don't set too much higher price you might lose a lot of profit in the market while waiting for something that would come too slow.

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December 10, 2018, 09:35:25 PM
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It will be difficult to reach a conclusion by technical analysis related to the current situation. Finding bottom is not possible for the moment. It is more reasonable to trade short-term with TA. Or wait a little longer and afterwards move on according to developments.
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December 11, 2018, 04:44:07 AM
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I don't think technical analysis isn't going to help you that much in looking for the "bottom" in the first place, especially knowing that we're talking about bitcoin and not stocks/bonds/etc.

TA is the only way to recognize the bottom. if you look at a daily chart for the past several years, nearly every long term bottom has similar characteristics: a high volume climax after an extended decline, and bullish candle reversal like a hammer or piercing pattern.

i don't like catching the falling knife myself, but i do like supporting the right knife catchers once i see these signs.

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December 11, 2018, 05:15:30 AM
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Cryptocurrencies are quite different from other trading platforms because every altcoin follows only one coin and they really hope that Bitcoin will go up.
true, and IMO seems like altcoin's is always  relying on bitcoin progress since bearish occurs , because the growth rate nose dive as well after when there's a fluctuation on bitcoin which very affected. and probably it will bouncing back and will bullish only unless if bitcoin rocketed again back to the ATH.  
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December 11, 2018, 07:48:05 AM
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TA is the only way to recognize the bottom. if you look at a daily chart for the past several years, nearly every long term bottom has similar characteristics: a high volume climax after an extended decline, and bullish candle reversal like a hammer or piercing pattern.

i don't like catching the falling knife myself, but i do like supporting the right knife catchers once i see these signs.

I am not sure it's a pattern easy to see/catch in time and my guess is that many "knife catchers" get it wrong until the right ones "emerge". Of course, it's easier to speculate after it has happened.
So I think it needs an amount of luck too (and boldness to force that luck), not only the experience and knowledge beyond TA.

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December 11, 2018, 01:26:57 PM
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Its really hard to find the bottom on crypto market because (1) the price is based on pure speculation, I mean just a simply FUD can create a lot of panic that will cause the price to go deep and when you think that everything has settled down, a new wave of panic occurs, causing another massive sell-off (2) manipulation, we all know how whales can manipulate the price so again it makes it harder for anyone to just look at the graphical signals because most of the time its not applicable.

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December 11, 2018, 03:42:32 PM
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Since the market is unregulated and prices are based on speculations, the result is highly volatile market. With no regulations, for sure a lot of price manipulations by bigtime holders are common situations. This is now the problems.
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December 11, 2018, 10:34:03 PM
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Technical analysis on crypto has a smaller portion than the fundamentals created by the media, this is far different from the stock market and I can say inversely. if you can find accurate news updates whether positive or negative, this will create market price ripples which we often call volatile markets
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December 11, 2018, 10:36:34 PM
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TA is the only way to recognize the bottom. if you look at a daily chart for the past several years, nearly every long term bottom has similar characteristics: a high volume climax after an extended decline, and bullish candle reversal like a hammer or piercing pattern.

i don't like catching the falling knife myself, but i do like supporting the right knife catchers once i see these signs.

I am not sure it's a pattern easy to see/catch in time and my guess is that many "knife catchers" get it wrong until the right ones "emerge". Of course, it's easier to speculate after it has happened.
So I think it needs an amount of luck too (and boldness to force that luck), not only the experience and knowledge beyond TA.

that's the point. TA can't predict exactly where the bottom will be, so it's usually a bad idea to catch knives regardless of analysis. but TA can inform us when the bottom has likely occurred (eg through volume and a bullish spring off the lows). that's when i like to buy---after a reversal has occurred.

i'm less concerned about catching the bottom and more concerned about caching the bulk of the next move up.

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December 11, 2018, 10:49:56 PM
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Nobody can tell where the bottom is for certain, but there are innumerable things you can start doing right now. If you have already bought coins at a higher price, dollar cost averaging is a strategy you can use for accumulating coins and thus lowering the average price of the coins you have bought so far, and you can start right now if you wish. TA can sometimes be helpful in trading, but it's still an imprecise art, even in good market conditions.
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