Give an indication why an account was banned!

[Lafu]

and if it has any effect at all, it'll just turn fairly-easy-to-identify plagiarists into more ambiguous shitposters.

So it's a hell of a vicious circle!

But the last 2 month are more reporter show up and i have the feeling that every week come more and doing it !
This i guess is a result of the changes you have done with the merit system too , and its nice to see that we are on a good forward way !

I still keep "reporting"  anyway how ever it will comes ! 

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[o_e_l_e_o]

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I agree with your point about additional warnings - these spammers don't read the rules, don't read the stickies, don't even read the posts in the thread they are replying to. They certainly won't bother to read any other warnings or rules, regardless of where you plaster them.

However, having 50% of the threads in Meta being ban appeals from plagiarizers is a real headache to sort through, not to mention a waste of everybody's time continually pointing out to them that they will not be unbanned. If we are saying it is too time consuming to state the exact reason for every ban, could we at least update the ban message to state something along the lines of "Bans for plagiarism will never be repealed. Do not bother trying"?

[theymos]

"Bans for plagiarism will never be repealed. Do not bother trying"?

No, because mistakes are occasionally made. chimk was framed that one time, for example.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Yeah, fair enough. Is there some other better way we can clean up Meta from all this spam? A separate sub-board for account issue threads, such as ban appeals, hacked accounts, locked accounts, etc?

[darklus123]

Instead of the reason, there should be a link to the rules, something like this >

"Sorry (username), you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. Read the rules and you will find out what you were banned for. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com""

That will make them read the rules and not abuse new account they open for appeal.

Good idea , but for instead of putting the rules after getting banned (that they might know in the first place. Well yeah that is not an excuse but when that rules were already given to them starting from their registration then it might lessen this problem.)

[hilariousetc]

and if it has any effect at all, it'll just turn fairly-easy-to-identify plagiarists into more ambiguous shitposters.

So it's a hell of a vicious circle!

But the last 2 month are more reporter show up and i have the feeling that every week come more and doing it !
This i guess is a result of the changes you have done with the merit system too , and its nice to see that we are on a good forward way !

I still keep "reporting"  anyway how ever it will comes !  

I think it's a sad state of affairs that if these people weren't plagiarising then they'd just be shitposting instead, but it's true. The people who plagiarise are only here to earn and not contribute and if it wasn't for copy and pasting then they'd just be forcing out their generic responses about something they know little about, and that's why the forum is in such a poor state. We really should be cracking down on the unsubstantial posts or more importantly those that are paying people to make them. If users are spotted making incredibly terrible posts then the person's signature they're wearing should face repressions because they're not doing their job properly. As long as we continue to do nothing about this then it will just continue to happen. Running a signature campaign is at least a part time job. Running a larger one would probably be a full time one, but these people are not going to willingly do work that they don't need to especially when there's no repercussions for doing a shoddy job or even none at all. Once it becomes unacceptable to run campaigns in such a way they will change or start hiring people who are willing to do the work and there's plenty of people who would do so.

[o_e_l_e_o]

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Agreed. This is the same state of affairs that is currently being discussed in the Altcoin Bumping thread. We can report posts all day every day, and completely overwhelm you and the others mods with work, and yet barely make a dent in the spam. We need some top level changes, which I'm pleased to see are now being discussed regarding the Altcoin boards.

In terms of limiting general spam, as you say we need to crack down on the campaigns/campaign managers. Something along the lines of having to submit a list of participants, and if these participants reach a set amount of reported posts which are marked as good, the campaign is shut down. I also think there should be some kind of actual punishment for serial spammers. Spammers don't care about 2 or 3 of their posts being deleted when they can churn out one a minute to hit their campaign requirements. X amount of posts being deleted within Y amount of time resulting in escalating lengths of bans, for example.

[Findingnemo]

Update: Someone complained that his account got received a message like

"Sorry XXXXX, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism. You may appeal here, but your chances are not good: banappeals...@theymos.e4ward.com"

Theymos might implemented new autoban message since?

[Pmalek]

That is good news, that should now mean less topics in Meta with questions 'why was my account banned'...hopefully.
Unless they now turn into 'Email sent for banned account but no reply received, why'?  

[Kurapajajadi]

"Bans for plagiarism will never be repealed. Do not bother trying"?

No, because mistakes are occasionally made. chimk was framed that one time, for example.

how to appeal and restore accounts due to spam not plagiarism, do you have a telegram because I just bought an account for a private chat with you so that I can restore my account, I ask you what are the requirements to return my account, and how much I pay I am ready to pay because I only made a one-time mistake and I beg you I only did 9 posts so I at the same time I was not careful when reading the rules and I will not repeat the error, with an account named Tzuan_bit : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194347