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December 15, 2018, 06:53:52 PM
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December 15, 2018, 07:01:03 PM
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Thread posted early to gather feedback.
I'm open to any questions / criticism you have for us!
Thank you.


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December 15, 2018, 07:10:02 PM
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You say "All games are provably fair, with no house involved."

To where do players send their Bitcoins?
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December 15, 2018, 07:14:21 PM
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You say "All games are provably fair, with no house involved."

To where do players send their Bitcoins?

Hello.
No house involved meaning you are not betting against the house.
The two modes (Coinflip and jackpot) are against other players.
Coinflip being a game you create or join, with an equal match and 50/50 odds against the other player.

There's an account system on the site itself, With your deposit address etc.
All games have the Hash visible at the start of the round or flip, Showing independence of the results vs player, etc.

You can view more details here :
https://imgur.com/a/QNFlAFb
(For both coinflip and jackpot)

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December 15, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
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You say "All games are provably fair, with no house involved."

To where do players send their Bitcoins?

Hello.
No house involved meaning you are not betting against the house.
The two modes (Coinflip and jackpot) are against other players.
Coinflip being a game you create or join, with an equal match and 50/50 odds against the other player.

There's an account system on the site itself, With your deposit address etc.
All games have the Hash visible at the start of the round or flip, Showing independence of the results vs player, etc.

You can view more details here :
https://imgur.com/a/QNFlAFb
(For both coinflip and jackpot)

To who send players the bets? To the house?
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December 15, 2018, 07:57:27 PM
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To who send players the bets? To the house?

It's all player vs player based.
Kevin creates a coinflip game for 500,000 Bits (0.5 BTC)
Luke joins him, The coinflip plays out, Winner is revealed (All Predetermined upon game creation with the Server Key, Client key, and roll (Being 0 or 1) Generated then)
Roll and Server key are kept hidden until winner is reveled to player, You can check the hash given at the start though to show it was not changed and the round result is correct etc.

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December 15, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
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For new games, its good not to go for the PvP way. First, gather some player to play against house and then go PvP.

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December 15, 2018, 08:41:07 PM
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For new games, its good not to go for the PvP way. First, gather some player to play against house and then go PvP.

As it's PvP only, It's of utter most importance I'm able to capture enough players in the first few days of launch to establish a constant player stream for both jackpot and coinflip.
I'd rather maintain 100% PVP, as that's the overall goal and premises of this site.
Our first week or two of launch there may be special promotional additions such as 0% commission during that time, etc.

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December 15, 2018, 09:03:15 PM
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To who send players the bets? To the house?

It's all player vs player based.
Kevin creates a coinflip game for 500,000 Bits (0.5 BTC)
Luke joins him, The coinflip plays out, Winner is revealed (All Predetermined upon game creation with the Server Key, Client key, and roll (Being 0 or 1) Generated then)
Roll and Server key are kept hidden until winner is reveled to player, You can check the hash given at the start though to show it was not changed and the round result is correct etc.

I asked to who the players send their Bitcoins? And not how the game technically runs.
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To who send players the bets? To the house?

It's all player vs player based.
Kevin creates a coinflip game for 500,000 Bits (0.5 BTC)
Luke joins him, The coinflip plays out, Winner is revealed (All Predetermined upon game creation with the Server Key, Client key, and roll (Being 0 or 1) Generated then)
Roll and Server key are kept hidden until winner is reveled to player, You can check the hash given at the start though to show it was not changed and the round result is correct etc.

I asked to who the players send their Bitcoins? And not how the game technically runs.

My apologies.
You're sending them to your unique deposit address generated to your account.
After 1 confirmation BTC is credited to your account in bits form, which is now playable in any of the game modes and or withdrawal-able.



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To who send players the bets? To the house?

It's all player vs player based.
Kevin creates a coinflip game for 500,000 Bits (0.5 BTC)
Luke joins him, The coinflip plays out, Winner is revealed (All Predetermined upon game creation with the Server Key, Client key, and roll (Being 0 or 1) Generated then)
Roll and Server key are kept hidden until winner is reveled to player, You can check the hash given at the start though to show it was not changed and the round result is correct etc.

I asked to who the players send their Bitcoins? And not how the game technically runs.

My apologies.
You're sending them to your unique deposit address generated to your account.
After 1 confirmation BTC is credited to your account in bits form, which is now playable in any of the game modes and or withdrawal-able.
Who is the wallet holder?
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December 15, 2018, 09:30:09 PM
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Who is the wallet holder?

We're the holder. Cold storage will be on hardware wallet once needed, Hot wallet provided by us.

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December 16, 2018, 12:00:27 AM
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Just to add,
We launched a Discord server.
Will post development updates / 1 on 1 community support + feedback here.
https://discord.gg/k9wrZdR

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December 16, 2018, 05:05:19 AM
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For new games, its good not to go for the PvP way. First, gather some player to play against house and then go PvP.

I have to agree with this, it is indeed hard to manage a PvP based game because it is hard to get active players. We have seen many similar PvP games before but most of them were failed to survive. It is the main homework for owner of PvP based game site on how to attract players to stay on the site. If it is just a common coinflip with no other features, I'm worrying that it will be the same as the previous failed PvP sites. But I wish you the best luck to run the site.

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December 16, 2018, 05:22:07 AM
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For new games, its good not to go for the PvP way. First, gather some player to play against house and then go PvP.

I have to agree with this, it is indeed hard to manage a PvP based game because it is hard to get active players. We have seen many similar PvP games before but most of them were failed to survive. It is the main homework for owner of PvP based game site on how to attract players to stay on the site. If it is just a common coinflip with no other features, I'm worrying that it will be the same as the previous failed PvP sites. But I wish you the best luck to run the site.

Understandably so, It's my main priority other then development of the site itself to do so. Being PvP only, it's of my best interest to make sure there's a constant feed of players at any given time for games.
I've got big plans for the website though and I'm not capturing the coinflip sub niche of gambling sites only, many unique features and an overall amazing user experience is our goal.
Also will be heavily community oriented , with many social features such as a global chat .

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December 16, 2018, 01:35:17 PM
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Who is the wallet holder?

We're the holder. Cold storage will be on hardware wallet once needed, Hot wallet provided by us.
You are the wallet holder and you taking a 0.25% house edge = "with no house involved"?

Is there also no operator involved?
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December 16, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
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Who is the wallet holder?

We're the holder. Cold storage will be on hardware wallet once needed, Hot wallet provided by us.
You are the wallet holder and you taking a 0.25% house edge = "with no house involved"?

Is there also no operator involved?

There's a different between house edge, and commission.
In principle, they work the same, however,
it's inappropriate to call it a house edge, when the results of your games are not skewed to win "0.25%" less, or playing against the house.

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December 18, 2018, 01:53:18 PM
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For new games, its good not to go for the PvP way. First, gather some player to play against house and then go PvP.

Yes, I do agree on this. PvP games was never meant to attract people because it needs more player to create the hype, mean while gambler are more likely to have something faster and easier so as much as I can say, most players will avoid this for sure. May be for testing, this might work but I do not think people will stay for that long on PvP based games
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December 18, 2018, 03:42:24 PM
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Is there also no operator involved?
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January 13, 2019, 03:49:53 PM
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Is there also no operator involved?

Operator as in house? Correct.
There's no investment ability as we don't have a bankroll.
The "bankroll" could be defined as the funds held in user deposit, however there's no limit to a winning amount, as long as someone would be willing to match X coinflip or play in a jackpot.

Also let me specify fees a little bit more.
We've got slightly varied fees to encourage higher stake games.

Games over 1BTC = 0.25% Commission / Fee
Games under 1BTC = 1% Commission / Fee
(Applies to both Jackpot and Coinflip, if the pot exceeds 1BTC or the Coinflip exceeds 1BTC per side)

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