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December 19, 2018, 09:36:08 AM |
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Yes, I agree with your point of view, but this fully demonstrates that the cryptocurrency market will now rise again, because no investors buy coins, the exchange does not have any profit now, only bitcoin takeoff will allow investors to enter the cryptocurrency market.
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December 19, 2018, 10:03:55 AM |
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It is probably based on a troublesome research published a few weeks ago. Proportion of wash trading volume is especially scary in low volume and Chinese exchanges ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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December 19, 2018, 10:11:03 AM |
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Yes, I agree with your point of view, but this fully demonstrates that the cryptocurrency market will now rise again, because no investors buy coins, the exchange does not have any profit now, only bitcoin takeoff will allow investors to enter the cryptocurrency market.
Oi oi, what are you talking about? did you even read the thread or just spouting nonsense here? we are talking about 'Wash Trading' or 'Fake Trading'. It has nothing to do with market or something like that. It is probably based on a troublesome research published a few weeks ago. Proportion of wash trading volume is especially scary in low volume and Chinese exchanges ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Yes very true about this, look at Tokok exchange for example. they have a lot of transactions daily(based on their volume), but until now I have yet to see it on Coinmarketcap. Plus, they are constantly making a trade without an actual order.
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December 19, 2018, 10:17:11 AM |
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Trading volumes can also be manipulated, because there are a lot of trading competitions currently ongoing and due to that fact the trading volume is pretty big, but as soon as the promotion ends, the trading volumes decline dramatically.
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December 19, 2018, 10:18:17 AM |
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I cannot agree less, it is even seen that some exchanges has this manipulative pattern of inflating trading volumes and sometimes price, I know hotbit to be guilty of that and this was complained by the CEO of the coin that got listed there.
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December 19, 2018, 10:22:34 AM |
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I'll tell you I can surely put down a lot of volume on a 0% fee exchange, and with a little bit of margin both ways, look out..
I wouldn't completely discredit volume on 0% fee exchanges like CMC does..
Sure it makes it easy to put down a lot of fake volume if you are a whale and don't mind eating all the small trades inbetween, but with no fees on non-leveraged positions a person can make tons and tons of little trades that add up to something.
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December 19, 2018, 10:23:24 AM |
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yes when in intial stages in crypto i believed to trading volumes and i lost lot of money too but now i never trust the trading volumes on exchanges.
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December 19, 2018, 10:23:36 AM |
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Do many people pay attention to the volumes on exchanges rather than the actual movement in prices? It should look suspicious if there are large volumes traded but little or no movement in the prices.
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December 19, 2018, 10:25:26 AM |
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It is probably based on a troublesome research published a few weeks ago. Proportion of wash trading volume is especially scary in low volume and Chinese exchanges ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) There are some chances of adjusted volumes still contain fake volumes too. Look at bitforex that was a horrible exchange site i have ever seen in these days. Chinese exchange that doesn't apply trade fees can be manipulated to easily.
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December 19, 2018, 10:29:12 AM |
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yes we all already know it all for a long time so it's not a surprise for me or for all of us, because of that I only like trading in binance and don't like other exchanges especially hitttc which even the fee is very high.
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December 19, 2018, 10:29:32 AM |
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I haven't think of that before, thank you for sharing that. I haven't think of something like that it might be true that most of the exchange are using bot in order to manipulate the volume of an exchange.
We might need to check the legibility and credibility of the exchange on where we're going to put our tokens and coins. We are not also sure that there's an existing bot in some exchanges right?
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December 19, 2018, 10:33:54 AM |
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yes that's unfortunate. There is a lot of fake volume in the stock market. I think exchange have a method of choosing to attract them. purchase-sales orders take a very long time to take place. most of the times you place orders under or on the order is entered. I think that these types of exchanges should not be used.
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December 19, 2018, 11:27:57 AM |
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very helpful information that you provide makes us understand the crypto world and increase our awareness of investing in exchanges which are good and not good and know about trade laundering.
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December 19, 2018, 11:34:42 AM |
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I'm not sure there are exceptions. It seems to me that absolutely all exchanges are doing this. Perhaps the degree of overestimate is different. We often see high in the ranking of new unknown exchanges. Of course, their high volumes are a hoax. But at the moment, the crypto market is at a similar low level. The low level of regulation allows manipulation.
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December 19, 2018, 12:08:39 PM |
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Only a fool will do, there was a time I wanted to sell some tokens on IDAX and the current buy order was what I tried to sell but the order was not filled, I tried a lower order, the order wasn't filled also, look at exchanges like Exrate and Bitforex which are two others that I observed these activities of wash trading. Something need to be done to clear out these bad actors the earlier the better
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December 19, 2018, 12:37:19 PM |
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Wash Trading is the buying and selling of coins by bots on the exchange to artificially create volume and the perception of liquidity.
each time you buy or sell, there is a fee to pay unless you are talking about some Chinese 0-fee exchange which no longer even exist. so in my opinion calling it "wash trading" does not make any sense. and whales don't waste their money like this when they can simply pump a shitcoin with the same amount of money without hassle.
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December 19, 2018, 03:05:34 PM |
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It is probably based on a troublesome research published a few weeks ago. Proportion of wash trading volume is especially scary in low volume and Chinese exchanges ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) There are some chances of adjusted volumes still contain fake volumes too. Look at bitforex that was a horrible exchange site i have ever seen in these days. Chinese exchange that doesn't apply trade fees can be manipulated to easily. Indeed, I have tried to avoid depositing a single satoshi to Bitforex exchange. Unfortunately, there are more of similar exchanges.
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December 19, 2018, 03:07:13 PM |
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23 Out of top 25 volumes are faked. Make out #3 and #4 and we're left with 21 exchange I haven't even heard of. I stick to Binance, Poloniex, Bitmex and Coinex. The rest is scam territory
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Borderless trading with the Jarvis Exchanges. Buy Apple stocks with Bitcoin. Jarvis.exchange (http://Jarvis.exchange)
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December 19, 2018, 03:15:23 PM |
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too many problems in crypto now start from fraud ico and now Fake trading volume on exchange.
oh shit the beauty of this investment. how can new investors believe if something like this already exists fraud.
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